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[Breaking] - Wisconsin Sikh Temple Shooting; 7 dead.

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What a hero the man who went down fighting.

First schools, then malls, then movie theatres, and now places of worship. Is there anywhere that someone can truly feel safe any more? This is so heartbreaking to hear.

Too much ignorance in this world nowadays. I was watching Anderson Cooper 360 tonight and learned that the guy was a part of a white supremacy record label.. wtf?! That exists? Some things in this world make me shake my head. It's 2012... Hitler is no longer trying to take over the world people.

We're all human beings.

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First schools, then malls, then movie theatres, and now places of worship. Is there anywhere that someone can truly feel safe any more?

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Odds are comparable to winning the lottery or less. Won many of those lately?

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Satwant Singh and Brian Murphy are heros. Hopefully the cop can recover fully from his injuries and live a normal life.

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What a hero the man who went down fighting.

First schools, then malls, then movie theatres, and now places of worship. Is there anywhere that someone can truly feel safe any more? This is so heartbreaking to hear.

Too much ignorance in this world nowadays. I was watching Anderson Cooper 360 tonight and learned that the guy was a part of a white supremacy record label.. wtf?! That exists? Some things in this world make me shake my head. It's 2012... Hitler is no longer trying to take over the world people.

We're all human beings.

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One of the temple officials put part of the blame on himself and the Sikh community for not doing a better job of showing the general population who we are as a people and what we stand for. He said he felt that had the shooter been better educated, maybe he would have changed his mind. I have to disagree. This guy was scum and hated anyone who wasn't like him. This KKK-style white supremacy bulls**t isn't supposed to be around anymore. The Temple is always open and never lock their doors and feeds anyone who walks in free of charge, Sikh or otherwise. Somehow that's make us targets now. I so sick of this s**t.

Normally when I see CNN news report I don't like the way the stories are report and twisted. But I have to say CNN has done a tremendous job covering the Sikh Temple shooting.

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One of the temple officials put part of the blame on himself and the Sikh community for not doing a better job of showing the general population who we are as a people and what we stand for. He said he felt that had the shooter been better educated, maybe he would have changed his mind. I have to disagree. This guy was scum and hated anyone who wasn't like him. This KKK-style white supremacy bulls**t isn't supposed to be around anymore. The Temple is always open and never lock their doors and feeds anyone who walks in free of charge, Sikh or otherwise. Somehow that's make us targets now. I so sick of this s**t.

Normally when I see CNN news report I don't like the way the stories are report and twisted. But I have to say CNN has done a tremendous job covering the Sikh Temple shooting.

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Vigil held for those killed in Wisconsin Sikh temple; Service will be held at the Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara in Surrey:

A vigil is happening at a temple in Surrey tonight for those killed by a gunman in Wisconsin. It's a gathering that won't just remember the dead, but also bring awareness to the Sikh community.

Sukhminder Virk, a director at the Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara, says it was important for the society to hold something in memory and support of the victims.

He has been speaking to the members of the Sikh community who feel awareness needs to come out of the tragedy.

"They've been very devastated," Virk explains. "[it's good] to reflect what the role of being a Sikh, living in the West. I don't think anyone is afraid, per say, but you are certainly very aware of what is going on."

Virk thinks it offers a chance for people to reflect on what happened, not just to Sikhs.

"Ultimately to help people understand that we are all connected. There's no difference between people. We're not just all Canadians, we're human beings."

Virk claims fighting ignorance needs to happen in the US and even here in BC.

The prayer and candlelight vigil starts at 6 p.m. at the Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara in Surrey. Virk says all are welcome. They will also have an open house on August 16 for people to learn more about the Sikh community.

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/389899--vigil-held-for-those-killed-in-wisconsin-sikh-temple?cid=dlvr.it

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More info on the shooter

By Scott Bauer,Todd Richmond, The Associated Press, thecanadianpress.com,Updated: August-07-12 9:07 AM

Gunman exhorted other white supremacists to act

OAK CREEK, Wis. - Wade Michael Page played in white supremacist heavy metal bands and posted frequent comments on Internet forums for skinheads, repeatedly exhorting members to act more decisively to support their cause.

"If you are wanting to meet people, get involved and become active," he wrote last year. "Stop hiding behind the computer or making excuses."

A day after Page strode into a Sikh temple with a 9mm handgun and multiple magazines of ammunition, authorities were trying to determine if the 40-year-old Army veteran was taking his own advice when he opened fire on total strangers in a house of worship.

Detectives cautioned they might never know for sure. But the picture of Page that began to develop Monday — found in dark corners of the Internet, in records from a dodgy Army career and throughout a life lived on the margins — suggested he was a white supremacist who wanted to see his beliefs advanced with action.

Page, who was shot to death by police, described himself as a member of the "Hammerskins Nation," a skinhead group rooted in Texas that has branches in Australia and Canada, according to the SITE Monitoring Service, a Maryland-based private intelligence firm that searches the Internet for extremist activity.

Between March 2010 and the middle of this year, Page posted 250 messages on one skinhead site and appeared eager to recruit others. In March 2011, he advertised for a "family friendly" barbecue in North Carolina, imploring others to attend.

In November, Page challenged a poster who indicated he would leave the United States if Herman Cain was elected president.

"Stand and fight, don't run," he implored.

In an April message, Page said: "Passive submission is indirect support to the oppressors. Stand up for yourself and live the 14 words," a reference to a common white supremacists mantra.

The bald, heavily tattooed bassist trained in psychological warfare before he was demoted and discharged more than a decade ago. After leaving the military, he became active in the obscure underworld of white supremacist music, playing in bands with names such as Definite Hate and End Apathy.

Still, Oak Creek Police Chief John Edwards cautioned Monday that investigators might never know for certain what motivated the attack on the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in suburban Milwaukee. So far, no hate-filled manifesto has emerged, nor any angry blog or ranting Facebook entries.

"We have a lot of information to decipher, to put it all together before we can positively tell you what that motive is — if we can determine that," Edwards said.

Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit civil rights organization in Montgomery, Ala., described Page as a "frustrated neo-Nazi" whose bands' sinister-sounding names seemed to "reflect what he went out and actually did."

Their lyrics talked about genocide against Jews and other minorities.

In a 2010 interview, Page told a white supremacist website that he became active in white-power music in 2000, when he left his native Colorado and started the band End Apathy in 2005 in Nashville, N.C.

Across several states, fragments of Page's life emerged Monday in public records and interviews.

He joined the military in Milwaukee in 1992 and was a repairman for the Hawk missile system before switching jobs to become an Army psychological operations specialist in a battalion at Fort Bragg, N.C.

In "psy-ops," Page would have trained to host public meetings between locals and American forces, use leaflet campaigns in a conflict zone or use loudspeakers to communicate with enemy soldiers.

He never deployed overseas in that role, Army spokesman George Wright said.

Page was demoted in June 1998 for getting drunk on duty and going AWOL, two defence officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release information about the gunman.

Page also received extra duty and was fined. The defence officials said they had no other details about the incident, such as how long Page was gone or whether he turned himself in. He was discharged later that same year.

A trucking company said it employed Page as a driver from April 2006 through August 2010, when he was fired for violating company policy. Barr-Nunn Transportation said in a statement that he was ticketed for driving a personal vehicle "while subject to an impairing substance."

Page bought a brick ranch house outside Fayetteville, N.C., in 2007 with help from a Veterans Affairs mortgage. But on Monday the home was boarded up with knee-high weeds in the yard. A notice taped to the front indicated the home was in foreclosure and had been sold to a bank in January.

Before buying the home, Page lived with Army soldier Darren Shearlock, his wife and young children in a doublewide trailer in a rural community near Fort Bragg, records show.

Shearlock, dressed in his military fatigues, declined to comment about Page or the shooting when approached Monday by The Associated Press.

Page's former stepmother said she was devastated to learn of the bloodshed.

"He was a precious little boy, and that's what my mind keeps going back to," said Laura Page, of Denver, who was divorced from Page's father around 2001.

In Wisconsin, Page responded to a recent online ad seeking a roommate in Cudahy, a small city outside Milwaukee.

He rented a room in Kurt Weins' house in June, telling Weins he had recently broken up with his girlfriend and needed a place to stay.

Weins said Page stayed in that room all the time, declining invitations to watch TV with him. Page explained that he wanted to bring some belongings out of storage, so he rented an apartment several weeks later in a duplex owned by Weins across the street.

"We talked, but it was really about nothing," Weins said. "He seemed pretty calm. He didn't seem like the type to raise his voice."

After the FBI searched the apartment in the duplex, Weins returned and found only a computer desk, chair and an inflatable mattress.

Suburban Milwaukee police had no contact with Page before Sunday, and his record gave no indication he was capable of such intense violence.

The FBI was leading the investigation because the shooting was considered domestic terrorism. The agency said it had no reason to believe anyone other than Page was involved.

Page entered the temple as several dozen people prepared for Sunday services. He opened fire without saying a word.

The president of the temple died defending the house of worship he founded.

Satwant Singh Kaleka, 65, managed to find a simple butter knife in the temple and attempted to stab the gunman before being shot twice, his son said Monday.

Amardeep Singh Kaleka said FBI agents hugged him, shook his hand and told him his father was a hero.

"Whatever time he spent in that struggle gave the women time to get cover" in the kitchen, Kaleka said.

With their turbans and long beards, Sikhs are often mistaken for Muslims or Arabs, and have inadvertently become targets of anti-Muslim bias in the United States.

Federal officials said the gun used in the attack had been legally purchased. Page had been licensed to own weapons since at least 2008, when he paid $5 each for five pistol-purchase permits in North Carolina.

The six dead ranged in age from 39 to 84 years old. Three people were wounded, including a police officer. Hospital officials said they all remained in critical condition early Tuesday.

Online records show Page had a brief criminal history in other states, including pleading guilty to misdemeanour criminal mischief after a 1994 arrest in El Paso, Texas, for getting drunk and kicking holes in the wall of a bar. He received six months' probation.

Page also pleaded guilty to driving under the influence in Colorado in 1999 but never completed a sentence that included alcohol treatment, records show.

He was arrested on suspicion of drunken driving again in 2010 in North Carolina after running his car off the side of a highway. The case was dropped a year later for lack of evidence, according to court records.

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And I have no doubt someone will take up his cause after hearing him asking them to, and by seeing him put his thoughts into actions.

Racist hate monkey see, racist hate monkey do.

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Unfortunately, many times, such as the case with this incident at the temple, the person who is misguided or uneducated about the things that they don't seem to agree with, tend to stew in their own opinions, and sometimes have it inflamed by others who are equally misguided and under-educated about the people or practices they don't agree with, and that develops into hatred, and that hatred can and often does spill over into violence borne from their frustrations.

The best and effective method to preventing that, in my opinion, is exposure and education about things that one 'hate's' or doesn't agree with. It has to be a situation where people are willing to learn and be taught. If more people learned about the vast similarities they share, then the differences may not be enough to cause violence outbursts, even if one continues to disagree. Disagreement is fine....allowing it to turn into hatred and violence, obviously isn't.

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Just came back from the candlelight vigil at the Surrey Guru nanak gurudwara. Must say that I was really happy to see how many people of different backgrounds came and joined in the prayer. Lots of politicians as well but none actually got stage time, but I was really happy that the gurudwara invited head preists from churches, and mandars so there were prayers from different religions. If people can always stay like this together as a group I think people could be much more educated and understanding of each other. I love that I live in a place where most people have some knowledge on the beliefs of others and aren't so ignorant.

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Just came back from the candlelight vigil at the Surrey Guru nanak gurudwara. Must say that I was really happy to see how many people of different backgrounds came and joined in the prayer. Lots of politicians as well but none actually got stage time, but I was really happy that the gurudwara invited head preists from churches, and mandars so there were prayers from different religions. If people can always stay like this together as a group I think people could be much more educated and understanding of each other. I love that I live in a place where most people have some knowledge on the beliefs of others and aren't so ignorant.

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Wade Page Died Of Self-Inflicted Gunshot Wound In Sikh Temple Shooting: FBI

MILWAUKEE -- The FBI says the motive behind the shootings at a Sikh temple that left six worshippers dead remains unknown but authorities still haven't identified anyone other than the gunman as being responsible.

FBI Special Agent in Charge Teresa Carlson also told a Wednesday news conference that investigators determined gunman Wade Michael Page died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head after he was shot by police. Authorities previously said an officer had fired the fatal shot.

Carlson says federal officials had not opened any investigation into Page before Sunday's shooting. She says investigators are interviewing dozens of people who have known Page as they work to determine for a possible motive.

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really will that help the situation think for one second.....

gangs will still have guns people will find ways to get illegal guns and those ppl will be considered criminals so would you want that instead?

getting rid of guns is not the answer how get rid of the system that brainwashes you daily instead? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Sikh temple gunman's ex-girlfriend Misty Cook: focus on the "heroes":

(CBS/AP) - A woman claiming to be the ex-girlfriend of Sikh temple gunman Michael Wade Page wants to stay out of the media spotlight in the wake of Page's deadly weekend rampage, according to the Los Angeles Times.

The newspaper reported Wednesday that an e-mail sent by Misty Cook, who was held Wednesday morning on an unrelated weapons charge, said she hoped "heroes" of the tragedy that left six worshippers at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin dead would get the most attention.

"For my part, I hope the majority of focus will be on celebrating the lives of the heroes in this situation. I find the good work that Satwant Singh [Kaleka] did for his people and his heroic last act are far more newsworthy than anything I could say," Cook, a 31-year-old nursing student, reportedly wrote.

South Milwaukee Police said Tuesday that Cook had been arrested in suspicion of being a felon in possession of a firearm. FBI special agent Teresa Carlson said she was arrested after police officers saw she had a weapon in her home during an interview for the Page investigation, but the charges are completely separate from the Sikh temple slayings.

Cook also goes by the first name Brenda, an FBI spokesman said. Online court records show Brenda Cook pleaded no contest in 2005 to a felony charge of fleeing an officer.

Page, who investigators say died from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound on scene of Sunday's shooting, was a 40-year-old discharged Army veteran who played in a white power band and had ties to white supremacist groups.

He was demoted during a stint in the Army for getting drunk on duty and going AWOL before he was discharged in 1998. Page later moved to Wisconsin to live in South Milwaukee with Cook.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57489311/sikh-temple-gunmans-ex-wishes-to-lay-low/

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DUH

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