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#61 juwanski

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:44 AM

Cory has been develped properly. Is there a chance he could fail? Og course the is a chance, nothing is for certain but since we so fondly want the Nucks to properly develope players shouldn't we have a positive vibe towards them? not constantly just picking out the what if failures. Believe in the system, because if you dont then why follow it and have one?

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:45 AM

Just a warning to you fans who think Schneider will somehow play better than one of the league's top-10 All Time and win us a cup within the next 2 seasons:

In every game Schneider has played so far, he has been groomed and sheltered. Yes, he played 30 last season but they were spot starts after days of rest, and only played more than 7 games in a row once after which fatigue got the better of him and he was blown out of the water against (at the time) the worst offence in the NHL in Nashville, then Columbus.

No one knows how Schneider will deal with playing long stretches of games, which is why he's a big gamble. Now I'm not saying he'll falter, but I'm just saying that the probability of him having a remarkable season and playing consistently well throughout 50-60 games and THEN sparkling in the playoffs as well is VERY UNLIKELY. No goalie except for Brodeur and Roy have won a Cup after being in the same situation as Schneider (becoming a starter after minimal experience) so the chances of the Canucks winning a Cup is essentially the same chance as Schneider becoming a top-3 NHL goaltender All-time.

I prefer sticking with Luongo, where the probability of him churning out another 30-win, successful season is VERY HIGH and then the probability of him delivering once again in big playoff games is just as high.

At the end of the day its the management who need to take a step back and make decisions based on what gives the Canucks the best chance, or probability, to win the Cup because no one can see the future, and I employ fans to do the same. Luongo is far from finished and still gives us that safety net, almost guaranteed success. Schneider on the otherhand has much less chance of doing so because so much more could go wrong with Schneider.





And are you going to tell us that Cory didn't learn from that experience of playing more then two games in a row or long stretch of games. How do you know he didn't learn from this? How do you know he isn't working on his stamina knowing he could be the Number one starter? You don't think that goaltenders like Roy ,Broduer ,Fuhr,Ward ,Fluery,Dryden,etc didn't learn anything after their rookie season?
How many times your going to keep the same argument Down Unda if Montreal and N.J had your way of thinking,They may not have won those Cups!Actually Broduer never won a cup in his first year but he did take them to the Conference finals. Like some other Goaltender from Washington name Braden Holtby. How much expernace did he have going into the playoffs DownUnda? If you were a Gm of Montreal would you have started Patrick Roy just by his JR record the year before when he had a G.A.A OF 5.55 as your starting playoff goaltender?How about putting your faith on an 18 year kid name Grant Fuhr as your starting Goaltender like the Oilers did in the early 80's When Edmonton had another young Goaltender with more expereince in Andy Moog. The same Andy Moog the year before as a rookie That eliminated Montreal in a schocking playoff sweep . Are you going to tell us if you were a fan of Montreal,N.J,Edmonton ,Carolina that you would be making the same agrument about experience? If you really believe that experiece is more important then goaltenders like Roy and Broduer should have started their career in the farm and brought them up slowly like Cory.
I can make the same argument like you about Loungo!! How much experience did Roberto have when Vancouver traded for his service as a 26 year old Goaltender who never played in a hockey mad city? How would he handle the pressure in that envirorment.
Or never played on an NHL team that finished above .500 with no Stanley cup playoff experience until he got here. But us fans and management put our faith on him. So you telling us that it's a Guarentee that Lui will have many years lelt in him. Hey nothing is Guarentee like you said about Cory ,but how do you know that same faith won't happen to Roberto like Kirk McLean or Markus Naslund were their skills diminished with age?
Clutch playoff goaltending from Roberto? I like Roberto but c'mon. You mean the first two playoff series with Chicago? When his team have given him the lead on more then one occasion and he couldn't hold the fort? Or the Following year when he led in 6 goals and afterwards he tells the media ..Well at least I didn't let in 7 goals!!!How about the great performance in the finals in the three games in Boston? Clutch to me is when you have goaltenders like Roy and Broduer who don't have mental brakedowns and getting blown out of the water when Big money games are on the line unlike Lui in Boston.
And don't give me that we had no offence. So what was N.J excuse of winning cups with little offense.
So Roy and Broduer are the only goaltenders to win cups that were in the same situation as Cory? Really! Kenny Dryden doesn't ring a bell to you ? Yeah for a guy who ONLY PLAYED 6 REGULAR SEASON GAMES! How about Cam Ward!! Wasn't he a rookie that won a cup with Carolina?
Sorry But Patrick and Broduer were not in the same situation as Cory!!! Vancouver took the time to groom Schnieder when they drafted him unlike the other two when they put them into the fire. Number 2 They let Schnieder developed slowly ..Meaning they let him finish his last two years of College. Then they let him developed in the farm for three years. They brought him up for spot duty in that time. Then they let him learn from one of best in Luongo for the last two year.
How do you know that Cory won't give us the same Success as Loungo or Better if you don't give him a chance but play it safe? Don't you think that Montreal and NJ didn't take a gamble on Rookie Roy and Brodeur. Especially Roy!! You don't think going into the playoffs that there was no pressure for him playing in a hockey mad city in Montreal?
Two players that had little or no proffesional exerience but you think that Cory may not be ready after 8 years of watching him learn and developed his craft. The point of this argument is DownUnda is how do you know how Cory is going to do if you can't be bothered giving him a chance like Roy ,Broduer, and even Loungo to a certain extent were given?

Edited by canacks1970, 06 August 2012 - 12:30 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:55 AM

The Canucks Boston series was the most watched program ever on CBC ever! and after the game was over people were like wow I wish these teams played like 4 times a year and they were like rarely does a game live up to the hype , man no even 5 mins in and the boxes were full , that game was HUGE! even after the game bieksa and other guys were jacked and fired up , there was so much on the line thats why it was so intense , both teams were the best in the league at the time of that game and there was a good chance at the time we would meet in the SCF , really good chance but you know things change exc but yeah , it was a huge game , anyone who watched got fired up anybody

The Canucks Boston series was the most watched program ever on CBC ever! and after the game was over people were like wow I wish these teams played like 4 times a year and they were like rarely does a game live up to the hype , man no even 5 mins in and the boxes were full , that game was HUGE! even after the game bieksa and other guys were jacked and fired up , there was so much on the line thats why it was so intense , both teams were the best in the league at the time of that game and there was a good chance at the time we would meet in the SCF , really good chance but you know things change exc but yeah , it was a huge game , anyone who watched got fired up anybody



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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:59 AM

And are you going to tell us that Cory didn't learn from that experience of playing more then two games in a row or long stretch of games. How do you know he didn't learn from this? How do you know he isn't working on his stamina knowing he could be the Number one starter? You don't think that goaltenders like Roy ,Broduer ,Fuhr,Ward ,Fluery,Dryden,etc didn't learn anything after their rookie season?
How many times your going to keep the same argument Down Unda if Montreal and N.j had your way of thinking,They may not have won those Cups!Actually Broduer never won a cup in his first year but he did take him to the Conference finals. Like some other Goaltender ...Whats his name from Washington!!! Ohh Braden Holtby. How much experience did he have going into the playoffs DownUnda? If you were a Gm of Montreal would you have started Patrick Roy just by his JR record the year before when he had a G.A.A OF 5.55 as your starting playoff goaltender.?How about putting your faith on an 18 year kid name Grant Fuhr as your starting Goaltender like the Oilers did in the early 80's When Edmonton had another young Goaltender with more expereince in Andy Moog. The same Andy Moog the year before as a rookie That eliminated Mighty Montreal in a schocking playoff sweep . You keep the same argument about experience, But if you were a fan for those teams would you still be making the same argument? So if that were true then Florida should have never made Loungo their starter when he came into the league ? He should have started in the Minors like every other Goaltending prospect.
I can make the same argument like you about Loungo!! How much experience did Roberto have when Vancouver traded for his service as a 26 year old Goaltender who never played in a hockey mad city? How would he handle that pressure!! Or never played on a proffesional team that finished above .500 with no Stanley cup playoff experience until he got here. But management put their faith on him. So you telling us that is a Guarentee that Loungo will have many year lelt in him. Hey nothing is Guarentee like you said about Cory ,but how do you know that same faith won't happen to Roberto like Kirk McLean instead of Marty Brodeur?
Clutch playoff goaltending from Roberto? I like Roberto but c'mon. You mean like the first playoff series against Chicago. When his team have given him the lead on more then one occasion and he couldn't hold the fort for 7 goals? Or the Following year when he led in 6 goals and afterwards he tells the media ..Well at least I didn't let in 7 goals. Or how about the great performance in the finals in the three games in Boston? Clutch to me is when you have goaltenders like Roy and Broduer who didn't get blown out the water when games were on the line. And don't give me that we had no offence. So what was N.J excuse of winning cups with little offense.
Difference is Cory was groomed slowly and properly. So when would you like Cory to become a starter?
So Roy and Broduer are the only goaltenders to win cups in the same situation as Cory? Really! Kenny Dryden doesn't ring a bell to you ? Yeah for a guy who ONLY PLAYED 6 REGULAR SEASON GAMES! How about Cam Ward!! Wasn't he a rookie that won a cup with Carolina?
Sorry But Patrick and Broduer were not in the same situation as Cory!!! Vancouver took the time to groom Schnieder when they drafted him unlike the other two when they put them into the fire. Number 2 They let Schnieder developed slowly ..Meaning they let him finish his last two years of College. Then they let him developed in the farm for three years. They brought him up for spot duty in that time. Then they let him learn from one of best in Luongo for the last two year.
How do you know that Cory won't give us the same Success as Loungo or Better if you don't give him a chance but play it safe? Don't you think that Montreal and NJ didn't take a gamble on Rookie Roy and Brodeur. Especially Roy!! You don't think going into the playoffs that there was no pressure for him playing in a hockey mad city in Montreal?
Two players that had little or no proffesional exerience but you think that Cory may not be ready after 8 years of watching him learn and developed his craft. The point of this argument is DownUnda is how do you know how Cory is going to do if you can't be bothered giving him a chance like Roy ,Broduer, and even Loungo to a certain extent were given?


Look, I've got high hopes for Cory, too but isn't it just a bit early to be comparing him to Roy, Brodeur and Dryden?
I'm saying Aladeen a lot because http://forum.canucks...dpost__10922428

I bet when Schneider turns 38, he will have broken all of Luongo's records.


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 12:40 PM

Look, I've got high hopes for Cory, too but isn't it just a bit early to be comparing him to Roy, Brodeur and Dryden?



Did you bother to read? Where did i said I'm comparing him to Roy or Broduer. Never once did I said he was going to be the next Roy OR Broduer! Anyways There is only one Patrick Roy, and only one Cory Schnieder. If you bother to read I'M Responding to DownUnda and asking how do you know how Cory is going to turn out without giving him a chance? What Down Unda was arguing about was experience and that Cory may not be able to handle the pressure. SukhhKular please Reread DownUnda and reread my response again. I think you'll have a better idea what I was trying to get

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:14 PM

Don't you think that Montreal and NJ didn't take a gamble on Rookie Roy and Brodeur. Especially Roy!! You don't think going into the playoffs that there was no pressure for him playing in a hockey mad city in Montreal?


I'm saying Aladeen a lot because http://forum.canucks...dpost__10922428

I bet when Schneider turns 38, he will have broken all of Luongo's records.


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:25 PM

You have said nothing new and could have posted this in one of the dozen other threads.


You have said nothing new and could be uselessly flaming on a million other threads.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:49 PM

I totally agree, it wasn't either of the goalies fault. Even with Kesler injured and Sedin being out the first few games there were guys who HUGELY underperformed : Higgins, Burrows, Hendrik, Booth, Hansen, etc., etc.,etc., just pathetic. Yes the Kings are great but the Nucks just didn't even try to step up.
Scoring in the playoffs have been their problem for years now, they can't just throw it all on Louie and Cory , didn't Lou get 2 shutouts in the finals against Boston. And when they don't play well the team has to step up and score goals....they don't !
I love how on this site no one ever gets on the Sedins for poor playoffs performances when things are on the line. Do they show up when the chips are down ? Boston series comes to mind ! No ! Their such good guys that no one ever wants to criticize them, but at some point you have to ask yourself if they can get it done when it's needed?
Management has to figure out what's up with these guys, do they have the intestinal fortitude to get it done or are they another Naslund who just cant seem to put the team on their back in the playoffs and bring a cup home? Windows closing fast boys, maybe only a year or two left?

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 03:20 PM

Schneider is a machine when he plays, he tracks the puck and is square to it nom atter what. Short of a perfect shot, or a tip Schneider doesn't let anything in.

He has no demons of years before and it shows in his play.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 03:21 PM

I totally agree, it wasn't either of the goalies fault. Even with Kesler injured and Sedin being out the first few games there were guys who HUGELY underperformed : Higgins, Burrows, Hendrik, Booth, Hansen, etc., etc.,etc., just pathetic. Yes the Kings are great but the Nucks just didn't even try to step up.
Scoring in the playoffs have been their problem for years now, they can't just throw it all on Louie and Cory , didn't Lou get 2 shutouts in the finals against Boston. And when they don't play well the team has to step up and score goals....they don't !
I love how on this site no one ever gets on the Sedins for poor playoffs performances when things are on the line. Do they show up when the chips are down ? Boston series comes to mind ! No ! Their such good guys that no one ever wants to criticize them, but at some point you have to ask yourself if they can get it done when it's needed?
Management has to figure out what's up with these guys, do they have the intestinal fortitude to get it done or are they another Naslund who just cant seem to put the team on their back in the playoffs and bring a cup home? Windows closing fast boys, maybe only a year or two left?


Henrik had 6 points in 5 games, he was the only one who showed up and knew what the playoffs are about.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:17 PM

Luongo? Top 10 all-time...Really? I'm not going to rehash all of his stats but I'm pretty sure that is not an accurate assessment. We do know that he has 2 Vezina noms (no wins), 1 Hart nom (no wins), 1 SCF appearance (no wins), 1 Jennings win (shared with Schneider). This is the extent of his NHL "accomplishments".


Luongo is actually 5th in save percentage all-time, despite having played a number of years behind an absolutely atrocious Florida team.

At the end of Luongo's career he will almost definitely be top 10 in wins as well.

Facts are facts.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:40 PM


Again the main point is that I wasn't comparing Cory to ROY and Broduer. The point is Roy and Broduer were given a chance to shine at a young age that was the point i was getting at. Never once did I meantion he will have the same success as the others or will lead them to the cup. Goalies like Fuhr and this year Brayden Holtby from Washington were given a chance to shine that experience wasn't always nessasary Like DownUnda believes.And that was the point. Also Down Unda thought that Roy and Broduer were in the same boat as Cory! And if you read my response I meantion that it took Vancouver 8 years to developed Cory after they had drafted him. While Roy and Broduer were basically thrown into the fire with little or no time in the farm system.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 08:05 PM

And I was all like omg, and they were all like omg too, and we were all like wow omg together.....from the like valley like much like like like like.



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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:40 AM

Hey guys , Here is a video I think you guys should watch , here is the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckaZ8X1n5S4

Everyone is saying that Schneider has only played a handfull of games and that he is in trouble once he becomes a number 1 he will change , its true he has only played so many games but if you look at the playoffs , Cory played games 3,4,5 and the scores were 1-0 3-1 2-1 , if we would have scores two goals JUST TWO GOALS in games three and five, we would be up 3-2 on the eventual Stanley Cup Winners , and Schneider played amazing game 3 he stopped like 48 shots in game 4 and in game 5 he was close to a shutout, he gave a up a weird goal he didnt really expect in the 3rd period . Cory only gave up 3 goals in 3 games to the Kings I dont count the game 5 OT goal because a team is going to win in overtime regardless , you play till someone scores, so he only gave up 3 goals in 3 regulation games against a team that dominated the the rest of the way and went on a historic run , and you have to take in account cory got thrown into the fire basically he found out gameday he would be playing and even after game 3 he still wasnt sure . All I am saying is if you watch the video I think you will be impressed with how amazing he is.

I for one am STOKED to think that he might be out will be our starter on OPENING NIGHT, its a new era , and we get to see his new mask every game , everytime Cory played last year it was usually on the road , I like him in the home blue jersey , but yeah I always looked forward to his game , plus when Luongo got pulled , Cory went in on the spot and always shut the other team out , and he got charged with loses from luongos bad play like against Buffalo , when Lu gave up like 4 goals right off the bat , I know people say oh but he rested and only plays ever so often, but ask any athlete , and they live on routine , consitency , they want to be out there everyday , and one last thing , do you guys remember when Luongo took a puck to the mask and Cory played for like 2 weeks straight and went like 8-0 with like 3 or 4 shutouts and a bunch of 1 goal games,

please comment , and comment is appreciated

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:49 AM

Luongo is actually 5th in save percentage all-time, despite having played a number of years behind an absolutely atrocious Florida team.

At the end of Luongo's career he will almost definitely be top 10 in wins as well.

Facts are facts.


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Again the main point is that I wasn't comparing Cory to ROY and Broduer. The point is Roy and Broduer were given a chance to shine at a young age that was the point i was getting at. Never once did I meantion he will have the same success as the others or will lead them to the cup. Goalies like Fuhr and this year Brayden Holtby from Washington were given a chance to shine that experience wasn't always nessasary Like DownUnda believes.And that was the point. Also Down Unda thought that Roy and Broduer were in the same boat as Cory! And if you read my response I meantion that it took Vancouver 8 years to developed Cory after they had drafted him. While Roy and Broduer were basically thrown into the fire with little or no time in the farm system.


Misunderstood your point.

Unrelated: Would you trust Brayden Holtby to be your starter? :bigblush:

Edited by SukhKular, 07 August 2012 - 07:51 AM.

I'm saying Aladeen a lot because http://forum.canucks...dpost__10922428

I bet when Schneider turns 38, he will have broken all of Luongo's records.


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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:53 AM

Just a warning to you fans who think Schneider will somehow play better than one of the league's top-10 All Time and win us a cup within the next 2 seasons:

In every game Schneider has played so far, he has been groomed and sheltered. Yes, he played 30 last season but they were spot starts after days of rest, and only played more than 7 games in a row once after which fatigue got the better of him and he was blown out of the water against (at the time) the worst offence in the NHL in Nashville, then Columbus.

No one knows how Schneider will deal with playing long stretches of games, which is why he's a big gamble. Now I'm not saying he'll falter, but I'm just saying that the probability of him having a remarkable season and playing consistently well throughout 50-60 games and THEN sparkling in the playoffs as well is VERY UNLIKELY. No goalie except for Brodeur and Roy have won a Cup after being in the same situation as Schneider (becoming a starter after minimal experience) so the chances of the Canucks winning a Cup is essentially the same chance as Schneider becoming a top-3 NHL goaltender All-time.

I prefer sticking with Luongo, where the probability of him churning out another 30-win, successful season is VERY HIGH and then the probability of him delivering once again in big playoff games is just as high.

At the end of the day its the management who need to take a step back and make decisions based on what gives the Canucks the best chance, or probability, to win the Cup because no one can see the future, and I employ fans to do the same. Luongo is far from finished and still gives us that safety net, almost guaranteed success. Schneider on the otherhand has much less chance of doing so because so much more could go wrong with Schneider.


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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:36 AM

I agree with downunder.

One playoff win and one season with 33 games played and we are going all in on Cory.

Better have a decent back up and not an untested rookie in Lack.

Above average goaltending from Luo has given AV and MG a lot of extra sleep they did not really work for.

Now comes the fun part.This is gonna be great.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:39 AM

I agree with downunder.

One playoff win and one season with 33 games played and we are going all in on Cory.

Better have a decent back up and not an untested rookie in Lack.

Above average goaltending from Luo has given AV and MG a lot of extra sleep they did not really work for.

Now comes the fun part.This is gonna be great.


Yeah, It would be funner to watch from a distance if it wasn't our team.
I'm saying Aladeen a lot because http://forum.canucks...dpost__10922428

I bet when Schneider turns 38, he will have broken all of Luongo's records.


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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:43 AM

I totally agree, it wasn't either of the goalies fault. Even with Kesler injured and Sedin being out the first few games there were guys who HUGELY underperformed : Higgins, Burrows, Hendrik, Booth, Hansen, etc., etc.,etc., just pathetic. Yes the Kings are great but the Nucks just didn't even try to step up.
Scoring in the playoffs have been their problem for years now, they can't just throw it all on Louie and Cory , didn't Lou get 2 shutouts in the finals against Boston. And when they don't play well the team has to step up and score goals....they don't !
I love how on this site no one ever gets on the Sedins for poor playoffs performances when things are on the line. Do they show up when the chips are down ? Boston series comes to mind ! No ! Their such good guys that no one ever wants to criticize them, but at some point you have to ask yourself if they can get it done when it's needed?
Management has to figure out what's up with these guys, do they have the intestinal fortitude to get it done or are they another Naslund who just cant seem to put the team on their back in the playoffs and bring a cup home? Windows closing fast boys, maybe only a year or two left?


You make excellent points but the Sedins have tried their best and done an admirable job carrying the team year after year after year.

My point is that the Sedins are skilled players being thrown into roller derby/MMA hockey on steroids ever playoffs without any help from management to allow them to fully succeed.

Is this management so silly that they believe their star players can go on taking injuries,head shots and cross checks to every region relentlessly forever? I mean where is the support for Kes and the twins,Gillis.org?

Please get your act together and start with Doan.

Thank you.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:46 AM

Yeah, It would be funner to watch from a distance if it wasn't our team.


After 42 years we hope for miracles.

Luo was this franchise's savior and now that era has ended.

Let's see what Cory can do and what management offers up as a back up plan.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 10:55 AM

I agree with downunder.

One playoff win and one season with 33 games played and we are going all in on Cory.

Better have a decent back up and not an untested rookie in Lack.

Above average goaltending from Luo has given AV and MG a lot of extra sleep they did not really work for.

Now comes the fun part.This is gonna be great.


Well nit.I'LL Agree with You that we do need a reliable Veteran back up. We had already seen what happened to Lui in his first four years here when Management and coaching didn't have the trust of our back up.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 11:01 AM

Facts are not welcome on CDC! Get 'em outta here!



Misunderstood your point.

Unrelated: Would you trust Brayden Holtby to be your starter? :bigblush:




My answer is Yes! And not because its Brayden Holtby. Any player that are skilled enough to make my team your going to have to trust them at some point from starting players to back up, Even the ones that aren't dressed.
Been around long enough that I've seen alot of Rookies start and played well and some don't. If the kid showed promised Sukhkular why not. Sometimes kids come in and really don't feel the pressure. Let say my starting vet or experienced player is struggling or whatever reason, what would you do when you don't have a veteran back up to call up? When you bring an inexperience player sometimes they have this additude I have nothing to lose, and some tend to be more loose and relax, or they have something to prove, and most of the time some of these rookies mentally don't really understand the magnitude the game. If the kid is good enough to make the team then why not!!! Sometimes you don't have a choice and you have to take that gamble and throw that player into that situation. You never know how good your players are unless you play them.

Unrelated : Cool username!!

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 12:00 PM

Dude give me a break , I really thought this out, and I am not jumping down anyones throat or anything , I am just saying whats on my mind, hey man were all in this together , we all love this team and want a Stanley Cup , I think we need to get along better, even though we are on the internet , but thanks man haha ;)


Hey man why don't we just allow everyone on CDC to make a thread about their opinion on the Canucks so that every single thread on here is an opinion from everyone!?!? :towel:

Haha but Schneider is still very much unproven because he hasn't played much. It's ok for people to be concerned with him, but I can see him transitioning from backup to starter seamlessly.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 12:10 PM

My answer is Yes! And not because its Brayden Holtby. Any player that are skilled enough to make my team your going to have to trust them at some point from starting players to back up, Even the ones that aren't dressed.
Been around long enough that I've seen alot of Rookies start and played well and some don't. If the kid showed promised Sukhkular why not. Sometimes kids come in and really don't feel the pressure. Let say my starting vet or experienced player is struggling or whatever reason, what would you do when you don't have a veteran back up to call up? When you bring an inexperience player sometimes they have this additude I have nothing to lose, and some tend to be more loose and relax, or they have something to prove, and most of the time some of these rookies mentally don't really understand the magnitude the game. If the kid is good enough to make the team then why not!!! Sometimes you don't have a choice and you have to take that gamble and throw that player into that situation. You never know how good your players are unless you play them.

Unrelated : Cool username!!


Most rookie goaltender (I said most) begin their starting job on teams that aren't expected to do much anyway. Example RL1; FLA... Once they've shown what they can do over the course of a season, their value increases and either the team is built up around them or they are traded/signed to a contender. It's rare to take a starting job on a team where anything other than a cup is a failure. I have high expectations for Cory and think he'll do just fine. There remains that possibility that he doesn't. If Gillis doesn't have a back up plan, I am very scared to see where this team goes from there.

BTW SukhKular is my name. Sukh Kular. Nothing intersting about it lol.

Edited by SukhKular, 07 August 2012 - 12:10 PM.

I'm saying Aladeen a lot because http://forum.canucks...dpost__10922428

I bet when Schneider turns 38, he will have broken all of Luongo's records.


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Posted 07 August 2012 - 12:12 PM

http://canucks.nhl.c...1239&view=stats

http://canucks.nhl.c...12&view=gamelog



just stop. you are getting worse. its embarrassing.


I don't know, at least he isn't ranting about how Burrows, Higgins and Hansen are all power forwards this time. :lol:

Edited by Moonshinefe, 07 August 2012 - 12:12 PM.


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Posted 07 August 2012 - 01:10 PM

Hey guys , Here is a video I think you guys should watch , here is the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckaZ8X1n5S4

Everyone is saying that Schneider has only played a handful of games and that he is in trouble once he becomes a number 1 he will change , its true he has only played so many games but if you look at the playoffs....


the fact of the matter is, schneider has not played a full season. he has not had to play 60+ games and we as fans and even the coaching staff do not know how he will handle it - mentally and physically.

you look at the playoffs, and he played 3 in a row...that is hardly a full season.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:08 PM

Funny after all those great saves all's i remember is Jim Hughson saying : Here's Zack Kassian and he turns the puck over......... :picard:

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:28 PM

I agree with downunder.

One playoff win and one season with 33 games played and we are going all in on Cory.

Better have a decent back up and not an untested rookie in Lack.

Above average goaltending from Luo has given AV and MG a lot of extra sleep they did not really work for.

Now comes the fun part.This is gonna be great.


Don't ever agree with downunder it makes you look bad.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 11:22 PM

The Canucks Boston series was the most watched program ever on CBC ever! and after the game was over people were like wow I wish these teams played like 4 times a year and they were like rarely does a game live up to the hype , man no even 5 mins in and the boxes were full , that game was HUGE! even after the game bieksa and other guys were jacked and fired up , there was so much on the line thats why it was so intense , both teams were the best in the league at the time of that game and there was a good chance at the time we would meet in the SCF , really good chance but you know things change exc but yeah , it was a huge game , anyone who watched got fired up anybody


What exactly are you talking about here? First it sounds like you're talking about the SCF series and the ratings they had and then you start talking about after the game that the two teams played in January? Are you talking about the ratings for the finals or the ratings for the January game because you're kind of all over the map?

And when you think about it, that game in January didn't really have much on the line at all in the grand scheme of things. The two teams don't even play in the same conferance, neither one was worrying about a playoff spot and the game was being hyped up by the media and fans more in Vancouver than it was in Boston because we lost the SCF. Did it make for great drama and did the game turn out to be a entertaining game, you bet it did, but in reality both teams took a bit of a nosedive as far their level of play for the rest of the year.




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