Provost Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Just sitting thinking of how the roster could shake up over the coming month based on all the speculation and rumours that are floating around.... and put them all together in one place. Here are some of the types of moves being talked about and the resulting roster (maybe respond with your own version?) Sign UFAs: Doan (self explanatory) Arnott (with Kesler out there is no better value option for the price) Ellis (or any cheap veteran backup) Trade: To anyone... Ballard (I like him and barring getting another defenceman like the trade below we should keep him. With Kesler out we can even keep him for depth as we would have plenty of cap room) Then Trade: To Fla: Luongo (needs to be moved in the relatively near future) Hansen (someone that other teams would covet) Schroeder (not likely to crack our roster) Raymond (nice guy, but either move him in this trade or send him somewhere else, I would rather see Jensen get a crack than Raymond taking up a roster spot) To Van: Bjugstad (future roster player) Upshall (needed for Florida to move out salary) Ellerby (bottom pairing D with some upside... = younger&bigger) The resultring roster is one that I think is certainly better on paper than last year's version (especially for playoff hockey) and adding Bjugstad to our prospect pool would be huge. FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Shane Doan ($5.550m) David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Jason Arnott ($2.000m) / Scottie Upshall ($3.500m) Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m) Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / Andrew Ebbett ($0.600m) / DEFENSEMEN Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m) Keaton Ellerby ($0.700m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m) Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) / GOALTENDERS Cory Schneider ($4.000m) Dan Ellis ($0.750m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,495,000; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,705,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 id rather not trade ballard and i really like your fla trade but maybe add a pick coming back our way and it would be fair. Great proposal and very realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks fan in chicago Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Don't trade Hansen or Raymond. I believe Raymond is going to have a bounce back year, I think he'll hit 50 points. you don't trade a player after just re-signing them, it makes you as a GM look bad. And I don't believe this Bjugstad hype. He was pretty much a point per game player in college. That is not very great if you ask me. I'd rather see Gillis trade for a player with actual offensive upside cause our top lines aren't getting any younger. Also, no point trading for a winger. I think Jensen will make the team this year, heck we could even put him with Shane Doan and Kesler or Burrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Don't trade Hansen or Raymond. I believe Raymond is going to have a bounce back year, I think he'll hit 50 points. you don't trade a player after just re-signing them, it makes you as a GM look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks fan in chicago Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 It is "possible" Raymond has a bounce back year, but he was looking bad before he got injured so the likelihood is getting remote and is not worth risking wasting a top 6 roster spot for that chance. If he fails to deliver this year he is entirely worthless as an asset and may not even be in the NHL for his next contract. Right now some GMs will look at Raymond and still be dazzled by his best year, hoping he can reach that again with a change of scenery (if you are hurting for offence you can talk yourself into anything). You are mistaking trading a guy you signed as a UFA and trading one of your own players who you extended as an RFA. It is perfectly on the up and up to trade away Raymond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Here is where I think our guys fit into the Florida roster in that trade, so I think it does provide them with some value... not that I know a ton about the Florida roster aside from reports. Also, they can get a decent return for Theodore from Toronto/Chicago or wherever who still needs a goalie. FORWARDS Tomas Fleischmann ($4.500m) / Stephen Weiss ($3.100m) / Kris Versteeg ($4.400m) Mason Raymond ($2.275m) / Marcel Goc ($1.700m) / Peter Mueller ($1.725m) Tomas Kopecky ($3.000m) / Mike Santorelli ($1.600m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) Sean Bergenheim ($2.750m) / Shawn Matthias ($0.852m) / George Parros ($0.938m) Jerred Smithson ($0.800m) / Jack Skille ($0.825m) DEFENSEMEN Brian Campbell ($7.143m) / Ed Jovanovski ($4.125m) Filip Kuba ($4.000m) / Erik Gudbranson ($3.200m) Dmitry Kulikov ($2.000m) / Alex Petrovic ($0.870m) Mike Weaver ($1.100m) / GOALTENDERS Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) Scott Clemmensen ($1.200m) BUYOUTS Matt Bradley ($0.283m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,068,666; BONUSES: $2,440,000 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $11,131,334 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Not a bad trade, but it isn't the best deal on Floridas part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Not a bad trade, but it isn't the best deal on Floridas part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 keep Ballard.... he is a solid #5 dman no thanks on the lui deal.... I dont want to trade Hansen and i really dont want Upshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Here is where I think our guys fit into the Florida roster in that trade, so I think it does provide them with some value... not that I know a ton about the Florida roster aside from reports. Also, they can get a decent return for Theodore from Toronto/Chicago or wherever who still needs a goalie. FORWARDS Tomas Fleischmann ($4.500m) / Stephen Weiss ($3.100m) / Kris Versteeg ($4.400m) Mason Raymond ($2.275m) / Marcel Goc ($1.700m) / Peter Mueller ($1.725m) Tomas Kopecky ($3.000m) / Mike Santorelli ($1.600m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) Sean Bergenheim ($2.750m) / Shawn Matthias ($0.852m) / George Parros ($0.938m) Jerred Smithson ($0.800m) / Jack Skille ($0.825m) DEFENSEMEN Brian Campbell ($7.143m) / Ed Jovanovski ($4.125m) Filip Kuba ($4.000m) / Erik Gudbranson ($3.200m) Dmitry Kulikov ($2.000m) / Alex Petrovic ($0.870m) Mike Weaver ($1.100m) / GOALTENDERS Roberto Luongo ($5.333m) Scott Clemmensen ($1.200m) BUYOUTS Matt Bradley ($0.283m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,068,666; BONUSES: $2,440,000 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $11,131,334 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Im pretty sure they bought out santorelli and i think huberdeau will make the lineup so maybe put huberdeau on the second line and goc on the third. its actually a pretty solid lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai604 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Good proposal, although I would be loathe to trade Hansen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Let's not trade Hansen who would be a big contributor in a playoff run, more so than Upshall, and let's also not wreck our future after the Sedin's even more by trading Schroeder. I'm not sure how people think this is fair, it's not brutal but I think they still win. On CDC fair is us losing the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Could we change Upshall to Kopecky, Schroeder to a 1st, and Hansen to Sauvè and a 2nd? Burrows - Arnott - Kopecky Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen Now that is a strong bottom six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Jane Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Could we change Upshall to Kopecky, Schroeder to a 1st, and Hansen to Sauvè and a 2nd? Burrows - Arnott - Kopecky Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen Now that is a strong bottom six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teksys Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Don't want upshall, him and Kesler have a past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 Let's not trade Hansen who would be a big contributor in a playoff run, more so than Upshall, and let's also not wreck our future after the Sedin's even more by trading Schroeder. I'm not sure how people think this is fair, it's not brutal but I think they still win. On CDC fair is us losing the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Ummm... I think you have that backwards. For CDC, you can trade Raymond, Ballard, and a 1st for any player in the league. Half of our fans are as bad as Toronto folks who wanted Luongo for some overpaid garbage and refuse to part with anything remotely useful. You are wrong in effectively every bit of your post. To consider Hansen as a core piece of the roster is silly. He is a decent and useful utility guy... but guys like him are a dime a dozen and easily replaceable. Upshall may be highly overpaid, but to say he would be less useful than Hansen is simply wrong. Schroeder is not going to be a replacement for either of our top 2 centres... the chances of it happening are ridiculously remote. If you think trading him and getting Bjugstad back in return is downgrading our prospects you are ignorant of any of the most rudimentary facets of hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 Also! I never said that Bjugstad is a downgrade, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 You said that a trade that sent Schroeder away and got Bjugstad in return would "wreck our future"... when in fact it would dramatically improve our prospect pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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