Edler Is a Beast Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Regardless of the size of his contract, Luongo is still a very important piece that could play an extremely valuable role for many teams. Like the article said, he could be the difference for whether or not some of those teams made playoffs next year if they acquired him. I think any team with a need in net and any remote playoff hopes would be stupid not to make a move to try and get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 This is a playoff team. This team is also good enough to win the division. EASILY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsy Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Sure. The Kings scraped their way into the playoffs and became cup champs. So let's burn rubber in August, right? Typical 'what have you done for me this week' nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey Fever Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I hear Mike is on the team 1040 right now blowing smoke up everyone's .............. Eventually Mike the excuses are gonna run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsflash Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I would not be so sure of either of those two statements. Minnesota's added two legitimate stars to their lineup. Edmonton's young guys are a year older, and they have a new coach. Calgary's made some interesting moves, and they also have a new coach - remember, we were supposed to be pretty pitiful when AV first took over, with Calgary easily taking the division, but we ended up playing uber-defensive and winning the division, somewhat out of nowhere. The same scenario could play itself out this year, with either Calgary or Edmonton being the beneficiaries this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 If by "interesting", you mean "horse bleep", sure. You can't "drive up" somebody's value in the NHL. You're not an institution buying stock. Cody still had to go out and make all the plays that he did. Cody had to go out and win all the faceoffs. Etc. This is a stupid, spiteful premise to take. Gillis is essentially saying that Hodgson sucks, and that he was a creation of the Vancouver Canucks - OK, Mike, we'll see about that one. BTW, speaking of values, how sad is it that perennial top-10 goaltender Roberto Luongo can't even get back some mid-1st rounder from a team already loaded with youth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 If the Canucks get Shane Doan, he will have to be used as a salary dump, they will be over the cap space if they sign Doan, so Gillis will have to suck it up and take what he can to dump that salary to make room for Doan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRyde Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Everything will fall into place in the next 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Canuck Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 A far as I can tell it isn't MG that said he drove CoHo's value up, it's the opion of the author. Management and coaches can affect how a player can succeed by giving them favourable situations to play in. MA Gragnani comes to mind, never starting in his own end! A GM needs on top of hockey smarts a dose of luck, if it were merely smarts Datsyuk & Zetterberg would have gone in the 1st round. It was luck on Hollands part they actually turned into the players they became and or a poor reflection on scouting staffs ability to forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 A far as I can tell it isn't MG that said he drove CoHo's value up, it's the opion of the author. Management and coaches can affect how a player can succeed by giving them favourable situations to play in. MA Gragnani comes to mind, never starting in his own end! A GM needs on top of hockey smarts a dose of luck, if it were merely smarts Datsyuk & Zetterberg would have gone in the 1st round. It was luck on Hollands part they actually turned into the players they became and or a poor reflection on scouting staffs ability to forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmotamed Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 This whole situation is garbage. Luongo is far and away, the better goaltender out of the two. We are making a huge mistake if we trade him. Schneider will not be close to as good, he wont get us the wins we need to go far all on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 This whole situation is garbage. Luongo is far and away, the better goaltender out of the two. We are making a huge mistake if we trade him. Schneider will not be close to as good, he wont get us the wins we need to go far all on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 And it's not just Tampa. Holtby, Reimer, Theodore/Clemmenson, Brodeur (old), Bobrovsky/Mason, Anderson, Whoever NYI goalie is, Crawford, are all slated to be their team's starters this year. Look at that damn list, at least a few of them are going to flop. A bunch of those teams (Chicago, Tampa, Toronto, Washington, New Jersey) have tons of pressure to make the playoffs, "riding it out" for a year with a bad goalie and getting a nice draft pick isn't an option. What happens when several of these teams all realize they need a proven starter a few weeks into the season? They come running to Gillis, because he holds the keys to the only available starter in the league. BIDDING WAR.It's just simple supply and demand, currently the supply is 1 and the demand is 0; if he waits until the season starts the supply will still be 1, but the demand will likely be 3 or 4. Gillis knows what he's doing here, and when it pays off, he's going to get some big time credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylecanuck Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Partly? More like ENTIRELY! He signals unflappable confidence in Luongo by giving him a 12-year deal, but then doesn't even trade the 1st round hotshot who's making noise in the AHL and is ready for make a jump to the pros. Said hotshot plays very good in the NHL, which is expected. As is always the case, the local fans want the new guy, who's younger, cheaper, and they haven't experienced deep pain with (yet). Fans get their wish, and now Luongo, who's still a very good goalie, is being run out of town, and Florida is currently hanging up when all that we're asking for is a mid-level 1st round pick. Pretty sad, and a cautionary tale of how NOT to handle a star goalie. And, clearly, Gillis is to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai604 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 And it's not just Tampa. Holtby, Reimer, Theodore/Clemmenson, Brodeur (old), Bobrovsky/Mason, Anderson, Whoever NYI goalie is, Crawford, are all slated to be their team's starters this year. Look at that damn list, at least a few of them are going to flop. A bunch of those teams (Chicago, Tampa, Toronto, Washington, New Jersey) have tons of pressure to make the playoffs, "riding it out" for a year with a bad goalie and getting a nice draft pick isn't an option. What happens when several of these teams all realize they need a proven starter a few weeks into the season? They come running to Gillis, because he holds the keys to the only available starter in the league. BIDDING WAR.It's just simple supply and demand, currently the supply is 1 and the demand is 0; if he waits until the season starts the supply will still be 1, but the demand will likely be 3 or 4. Gillis knows what he's doing here, and when it pays off, he's going to get some big time credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 It's not that we're blindly following anything, it's that it's been statistically shown Cody was used in a way to give him the optimal chance to succeed prior to the trade deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Well, that's debatable and rather shortsighted. I'm not claiming I know best over one or the other, but Luongo's experience versus Schneider's potential makes it an interesting debate. Certainly not as one sided as you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshinefe Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 As someone said earlier there shouldn't be a rush on Luongo. Kesler can be put on LTIR so we'll have the cap space to sign Doan if he decides to come here. Let the other teams with mediocre goalies sweat it out for the first couple months of the season, once one team's goalie gets injured or starts sucking, we'll have way more interest in Luongo and opportunities to move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 This will define MG for years to come. And it was Gillis that partly is to blame for putting himself in this situation ie. long drawn out contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal1 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 You got no clue who's names are being throwen around. Bjugstad is just a piece of what's on the table, think about the bigger picture. It's not Florida hiding us up, it's us holding everyone one else up. You will see, the return we get will be good and it might not be from Florida... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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