VICanucksfan5551 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 They arent representative as the population as a whole per se. However the idea rightful muslim lands extent from andalusia spain to south east asia gets zero denial from muslims even though islam like other religions was spread by the sword. Its seen as fact amonst a majority. It would be akin to white power groups back in the day who may have had popular tacit support or even formal support amongst an ignorant population who believed "white is right" but themselves wouldnt engage in pursuing that themselves. Which is why these atrocities in burma turn into a "our brothers are being persecuted" argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 Which country has the most converts? In the West, Islam might be at the top, but worldwide Christianity seems to be raking in the converts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
لني Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Again, I haven't seen that as a very prominent position, although what I've seen is obviously based entirely on English-speaking Muslims, seeing as I can't read Arabic, Urdu, Persian, Bahasa Indonesia, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
لني Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Which country has the most converts? In the West, Islam might be at the top, but worldwide Christianity seems to be raking in the converts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 Also which country and which religion has the most leaving said religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 And you wouldn't agree with it anymore than Islam wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Fair enough. In the subsequents posts I indicate a source that discusses birth rates and not only population rates.. The point isn't that they immigrate more than anyone....it's that they reproduce at a higher rate than others on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 Which version of Islam? The Sunni's version or the Shiites version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Which country has the most converts? In the West, Islam might be at the top, but worldwide Christianity seems to be raking in the converts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 That'd be tough to get an accurate source on, I'd imagine. Groups responsible for getting converts love to inflate numbers. The fact that the vast majority of converts leave their given religion after a few years complicates things a lot, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
لني Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Apparently it's Malaysia. It's seeing it's Muslim population convert to Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The links you provided corroborated what I was saying, that the population boom is due to a high birth rate in countries with a poor economic situation, and that this high birth rate is dipping towards the non-Muslim number. The precipitous increase will level off considerably in the next few decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Differences aside, both don't tell to murder each other like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 That's true. In London Muslims and Christians are taking the streets and spreading their religion to those interested. Oh wait, not sure about "vast majority of converts leave their given religion". Literally, all the converts I know have stuck with Islam. It's always a concern though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 What are the figures for said jumping ship? I find it hard to believe that malaysia is leading the way for people leaving one religion for another or for nonreligion. Especially considering, off the top of my head, the laws in malaysia regarding non muslims promoting their religion plus the myriad of other laws and rules set forth by islam itself. My guess is a western secular country would be leading the way. So do you have the number for muslims embracing xtianity in malaysia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 So they're not killing each other for religious reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The birthrate in Qatar is higher than the world average....it's also a muslim country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Oh damndamndamn. It was Indonesia* my bad! -.- that would probably make more sense than malaysia. Figures are most likely inflated as VICF5551 said, but from the Save Maryam campaign, they are saying 2million muslims -> ctianity every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
لني Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Oh damndamndamn. It was Indonesia* my bad! -.- that would probably make more sense than malaysia. Figures are most likely inflated as VICF5551 said, but from the Save Maryam campaign, they are saying 2million muslims -> ctianity every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
لني Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Yeah, I raised my eyebrows with Malaysia having a large number of Christian converts. I believe Christians aren't allowed to proselytize there and apostasy from Islam is illegal. Indonesia makes much more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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