luckylager Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I think we can take a page from the oilers and learn to put the young talent in the lineup so they do build experience... that is the way you learn by hands on on the real deal.....spend too much time in the minors and you think they develop but the truth is they don't adapt. They may be developed but you can not compare the minors to the majors.... Oilers are smart that way... they have a very good group of players that will surprise alot of people.... put the young guns in and lets see how they do.. making mistakes is the best way to learn..... go canucks go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I'd be more comfortable with Arnott. If one of them earns it, then sure, let them play. But I don't see that happening this year, though I would be pleased as punch is they made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Gaunce was the 2nd best center in the draft behind only Galchenyuk. Don't be surprised if he's in the lineup on opening night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 gaunce isnt there yet....put him in the ahl and let him grow on his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman60 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Gaunce needs to spend some time in Chicago....there is no use rushing him. Hopefully Schroeder will prove to be a 2C for us while Kesler is out. Ebbett is a possibility for 3C until we either get players in a trade or if we don't sign Arnott. I hope to see Jensen in the lineup soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 not an option, but thanks for coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clynch Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I'd like to see Gaunce here for the 9 games just to see what he can offer. As long as he can play physicaly with the big boys and can play solid defence then I'm in. He doesn't need to be a point getter at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Agree to a point but the Nucks M.O is quite straight forward. AV expects strong two way play. Typically players coming out junior either aren't ready physically or they aren't ready defensively/mentally. As a result, they won't get much ice from AV (see Kassian, CoHo). The advantage of playing them in the minors is: 1. They build confidence playing against a slightly lower level of competition and where errors are seen as development to learn from vs. scrutinized so heavily by the fans/media, so less pressure and can learn. 2. They get more ice, ability to develop 3. They get higher quality ice (pp/pk). If they are expected to be a top two line player they get that ice, vs 3/4 line in the NHL if they are lucky. 4. They grow into men, and learn what it takes to compete day in day out at a higher level than they have played. Remember many of these guys are 18 yrs old..kids still. 5. No need to rush them, which is often a cause of busts in the NHL, too much pressure to perform when really just not ready for a number of reasons, physical, mental, maturity, etc... So while your point is valid, there is also a train of thought that says 'easing' players in, can often be more beneficial, especially when they are not considered the 'sure thing' players like a top 5 guy might be. Given where we draft, the nucks method seems to make alot of sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I know that everyone thinks the Red Wings development system is the way to go but it is one of a kind. Their scouting department was top notch as was their player development. The Canucks do not have this, never have and it appears never will any time soon. This is not the way to go anymore anyways. There is a need for instant results in a salary cap world. This is proven in the NFL where 1st round players are expected to play right away. Sink or swim I say. Why wait three years to find out your highly touted prospect never really improved? Another three years at the AHL isn't going season them much. If you haven't made the big club after two training camps, start thinking of what your new career is going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Lappy says hi.... Or if not him then sign Jason Arnott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksfanZach Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Neither of them are ready, lappy can centre the third line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterBean Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 crack smoker...... why is it that because we don't let our rookies play on the first line that people think we don't develop our rooks. kassian got lots of ice time to see what they had acquired.. and he was very sporadic with his play.. he was good a shift crap the next. physical one didn't notice him the next. understandable, i expect him to be better this year(if there is no lockout) with a full training camp coho.... for a rookie got heaps of ice time.. more than he deserved.... we are not the oilers... we don't have to give our unproven rookies 15 mins of ice time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehamburglar Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Don't think Gaunce is ready, but I'd give Frisen a long look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I think Friesen is 2 years away and Gaunce is 3 years away from challenging for a spot. Ebbett and Schroeder will battle it out for the temporary scoring line position at centre until Kesler arrives back. Sedin Sedin Burrows Hansen Lapierre Higgins Kassian Schroeder/Ebbett Booth Raymond Malhotra Pinnizotto/Weise/Volpatti etc. I do, however, have a feeling that either Kassian gets sent down or one of Raymond, Hansen, Higgins or Booth + Schroeder will be included in the Luongo trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googs Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 Gaunce was the 2nd best center in the draft behind only Galchenyuk. Don't be surprised if he's in the lineup on opening night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googs Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 I'd sign Arnott anyways for this season, you can't have too many big guys with good shots for playing in the playoffs and that's what you'd get with Jason. I'd keep him around until Gaunce is ready for the 3rd line (unless Brendan pulls a Landeskog or HENRIQUE, which I would be THRILLED to see on this team). I also wouldn't put Schroeder in the Bottom 6 unless he's tough as nails like a Stephen Gionta, because small guys without the toughness would get crushed while trying to get the puck out along the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 They have yet to play a single professional game. Friesen will need time in the AHL to see if he is able to play against men and Gaunce will most likely need another season (if not two) in the juniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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