DonTaylor4President Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Young center who just had a breakout season for the avs. Don't know why they haven't signed him since they aren't even at the cap floor... Vancouver should take advantage and send him an offer sheet. Lose some draft picks but we want to win now and we need a thirdline center who can play second line when kes is out. What kind of term and money do you guys think it would take to snag him from Colorado. Keep in mind they consider him lower than Stastny and Duchene on their depth chart. Would it be worth it? $1,110,249 or below - No CompensationOver $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 - 3rd round pickOver $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 - 2nd round pickOver $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 - 1st round pick, 3rdOver $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 - 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rdOver $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 - Two 1st Round Picks, 2nd, 3rdOver $8,410,976 - Four 1st Round Picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoolander Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I wouldn't risk it...they will match anything south of $3,360,000 and I'm not willing to give up a 1st in this years draft...if anything I want to stockpile some picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee goren rulez69 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 they would match instantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Would love to have to have O'Reilly. He's my 3rd line center in NHL 12. But colorado would just match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susraiders Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I'd do up to $3.25 million, but Colorado would match it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberries Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 would like to get him, but only way avs dont match is if we grossly overpay so no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 This guy led the league in takeaways and had a better give away/take away ratio than Datsyuk, with 55 points too boot. And he's only 21 years old. They would match any offer in two seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckian93 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Oh Yeah I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I mean why not try and poach a player on a division rival... Its not like u are good terms with them anyways Offer him a 5 year/3.8m deal and see what happens....if they match it so what you move on and continue your hatred for one another This would be a great way to start a serious rivalry with colorado You literally have nothing to lose and have everything to gain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Avs match pretty much anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 He would be nice but as others have said Avs would match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I mean why not try and poach a player on a division rival... Its not like u are good terms with them anyways Offer him a 5 year/3.8m deal and see what happens....if they match it so what you move on and continue your hatred for one another This would be a great way to start a serious rivalry with colorado You literally have nothing to lose and have everything to gain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I think there's literally nothing to gain either because they're going to match any offer. It would just be seen as a stupid jab at their franchise to make them pay more and disrupt they're salary cap planning. Then when they turn around and do the same thing to us, we're totally screwed because we're right at the cap at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Frk Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 As much as i would like him, Avs would match the contract easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 kassian is an RFA in two years and tanev if RFA next off season and thats all we haft to worry about...just prepare yourself and re-sign them before july 1st if you dump ballards 4.2m then you break even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtpasc Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 i seriously wonder what the holdup is signing him by the AVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Don't want him, don't need him. This team already has enough bottom 6 type forwards on the roster and bunch more draft picks/AHL'ers who can fill out the bottom end. It's time for someone in the minors to step up and grab one of the openings this team has. O'Reilly came straight from juniors and assumed a checking role instantly. Though I guess according to the wisdom of many posters on this board, Colorado rushed him to the NHL *rolls eyes*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 i still just see it as a stupid pointless slap in the face to their organization, as the gm would be fired on the spot for not matching so he obviously would match. financially handicapping them is all you would be doing by making them sign a contract they never negotiated, so its just a pointless dickmove. theres a time and place for offersheets but everytime a player has a breakout season isnt it. edit: and its easy to say just sign them before july 1st but theres other what if factors to it. What if edler finally emerges as a norris caliber dman this year? and burrows scores 45 goals? lol unlikely i know, but they could offer kassian a decent overpayment gambling he is going to be the next lucic. then we lose out on utilizing kassian in his breakout seasons under a cheap contract because we were forced to let him walk... actually thinking about it, there is the time and place for an offersheet and im sure he would probably get one anyways haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 this is a business, no one is here to make friends. there is always a fear of reperussions for your actions but if you never gamble how are you gonna win? if everything goes peachy... to fla: luongo, raymond to van: bjugstad, bergenheim, 2nd pick 2012 to nsh: ballard to van: 3rd pick 2013 sign doan 2yr/11m sign ellis 2yr/3m sign oreilly 5yrs/19m sign hannan 1yr/1m sign eminger 1yr/.800k CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Shane Doan ($5.500m) Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / David Booth ($4.250m) Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Ryan O'Reilly ($3.800m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) Sean Bergenheim ($2.750m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Dale Weise ($0.615m) Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / DEFENSEMEN Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m) Scott Hannan ($1.000m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m) Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) / Steve Eminger ($0.800m) GOALTENDERS Cory Schneider ($4.000m) Dan Ellis ($1.500m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,240,000; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $960,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I like your luongo trade alot. Yes it's a business but any smart business man isn't going to waste his time chasing deals that are beyond pipe dreams. He just had his breakout season, was their top scorer last year, led the league in takeaways, is one of the hardest workers on their team and is only 21 yrs old. He is going to be beating kesler out for the selke when hes older. Gambling has nothing to do with it. You seriously think colorado is even going to consider not matching it? if your going to gamble offer orielly 7mill a season and hope he reaches that potential because then maybe colorado wont match it. saying sign ryan orielly to an offersheet is as dumb as saying trade luongo for huberdeau and gudbranson. Its just not happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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