Watermelons Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Where are we going to find another player who plays a very strong defensive play and has great chemistry with the Sedins and Kesler? Burrows and Kesler have been together for 7+ years and losing Burrows would mean losing our top PK unit...not to mention that when Kesler's game is going South AV can put Burrows with Kesler to reignite his game. Now on to the Sedins, everyone says Burrows' numbers are inflated by the Sedins right? I don't think it is a coincidence that the Sedins turned from 2nd liners/fringe 1st liners into elite 1st line players after Burrows joined their line. Without Burrows, who is going to hound down pucks for the Sedins? And even if someone can, will they have the ability to pass the puck straight to the Sedins afterwards? CDC really underestimates the importance of chemistry on a team. Burrows has chemistry with our 1st and 2nd line and he can also play on the 3rd to help shut down opposing players. IMO, Burrows' skillset is very very underrated by CDC. I'm sure that he would get similar numbers if placed on a line with a decent playmaker or a sniper because he will be able to get them the puck so they can work their magic. Not to mention his ability to shut down the top offensive players on other teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoLu7ioN Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 3.5M cap hit per year tops. I'd give him a 5 year deal for 17.5M He's 31 and likely to decline over the next few years. Yeah, he has a tendency to score in the clutch, I'll give him that. And he can put up decent numbers with the Sedins as well. But the flip side is that, when playing with the Sedins, our first line is a tad soft. If he could produce points with the Sedins while protecting them as well, I'd be willing to offer more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 So that means we have to forget about all the times he hasn't showed up when the team needed his goal scoring the most? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Interesting news, Maybe MG plans on trading Burrows if he can't be signed to an extension at reasonable $. If he asks for too much MG might trade him while he can get a good return with 1 full year remaining on Burrow's current contract. For those not old enough to remember this is exactly what happened when Burrows signed his last extension approaching trade deadline in 2009. Burrows did not take a huge discount when he signed his last contract. He had recently started playing with the Sedins and the line clicked. Burrows could have gotten a little more but he didn't take millions less to stay with the Canucks. No one at the time knew Burrows would score close to 30 goals per season for 3 straight years and become one of the Canucks' most clutch players. Burrows ended up being the best bargain in the entire NHL. I think Burrows could get close to $4.5 mill per year on a 5 year deal as a UFA. It's going to be hard for MG to pay him that kind of money/caphit. Or maybe MG might sign Burrows to a life time, front loaded contract to artificially keep his cap hit down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Not really, the only "clutch" goal i can remember is the goal against Chicago. He's sucked every other playoffs i can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Yeah, those Sedins really did the work on Alex' 3 goals in 5 games at the world Championships. WIthout them out there making Burrows look good he would have been a 3rd line grinder for the WC Team Canada, and while he is a good 2 way player, he certainly is not a .66 points per game guy without the likes of the Sedins propping him u.....WHAT????? they werent his linemates in the WC tournament, but that can't be right....he is just a 3rd line guy without the twins.....impossible I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 this thread has gone on long enough without oppa gangnam style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 He's been pretty solid in the shoot-out as well. Without some of those extra points he got us last year, there is no presidents cup. Granted, the play-offs are what it is all about, and he has certainly shown he can do that as well. Edit Among active NHL roster players, only Langenbrunner and Jagr have more play-off OT goals(4 goals) than Burrows (3 goals). 2 of those burrows goals were series clinching, and the other in the Stanley cup final. He has several years left, I sure hope we keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Optimist Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 this thread has gone on long enough without oppa gangnam style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 If Burr signs now, it may be to take advantage of current CBA rules. Retirement contract with a low cap hit? Why not? We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronic.Canuck Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Please check your breakfast cereal content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Twins were never 100 point players until they got Burr on their wing. They became more dangerous off the rush once they started playing with Burrows. 4.5 is not too much for a player who:Works as hard as anyone on this team, and harder than most.Can score 25 goals even strengthIs a good fit on any of the top 3 linesIs one of the best penalty killers in the leagueIs capable of actually scoring in the shootoutIs a royal pain in the rear to play againstIs a favourite of both fans and teammatesHas already proven to be a team-first player by taking a discountCan play either wing effectivelyScores clutch goals in the playoffs Make sure Burr retires a Canuck, MG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermelons Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Twins were never 100 point players until they got Burr on their wing. They became more dangerous off the rush once they started playing with Burrows. 4.5 is not too much for a player who:Works as hard as anyone on this team, and harder than most.Can score 25 goals even strengthIs a good fit on any of the top 3 linesIs one of the best penalty killers in the leagueIs capable of actually scoring in the shootoutIs a royal pain in the rear to play againstIs a favourite of both fans and teammatesHas already proven to be a team-first player by taking a discountCan play either wing effectivelyScores clutch goals in the playoffs Make sure Burr retires a Canuck, MG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsandwiches Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 The time to get the most for Burrows is now and just after we sign him. Sure he is a core guy, but it'll take something to gain something. If we want a top 6, then we'll have o move someone like him. He will only get worse and take longer to recover from injuries. We need to trade him now while he has value. Hate to do so, but need to pony up in order to take it to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 The time to get the most for Burrows is now and just after we sign him. Sure he is a core guy, but it'll take something to gain something. If we want a top 6, then we'll have o move someone like him. He will only get worse and take longer to recover from injuries. We need to trade him now while he has value. Hate to do so, but need to pony up in order to take it to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Twins were never 100 point players until they got Burr on their wing. They became more dangerous off the rush once they started playing with Burrows. 4.5 is not too much for a player who:Works as hard as anyone on this team, and harder than most.Can score 25 goals even strengthIs a good fit on any of the top 3 linesIs one of the best penalty killers in the leagueIs capable of actually scoring in the shootoutIs a royal pain in the rear to play againstIs a favourite of both fans and teammatesHas already proven to be a team-first player by taking a discountCan play either wing effectivelyScores clutch goals in the playoffs Make sure Burr retires a Canuck, MG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Canuck Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Didn't Burrows negotiate without an agent last time around? Think he will stay with the "team 1st" type discount but not a huge one. The team is making $$ no need for him to take a big discount while Mr. A lives high off he hog IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiun Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 4yrs/16m if i know burrows the way i think i do, it shouldnt be hard to come to terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsandwiches Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 We aren't trading Burrows. Why would even think of something that stupid? Thank god you're not the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks fan in chicago Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I'd give him 2 years at 3 million/ per. no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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