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[Discussion] The Doan Meta-Thread v2.0

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Ah. So he's staying in Phoenix.

Well no sh...

If he was honestly moving on, he would've quite awhile ago.

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I wouldnt be surprised either if the Coyotes sale doesnt get done by the 15th that he still doesnt sign with another team. I respect his loyalty but jump ship already, that ships been sinking for the last 5 years.

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So we basically have no new info other than that he/the team have come to agreement on contract terms IF they can finalize the sale by the 15th? (Which at this point, looks highly unlikely).

:lol: at all the reactionaries flipping out and assuming he's no longer available.

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This thread has gone mad ... He's signing in Phoenix ... MG loses out again

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bravo. a lame pot shot fired from the keyboard over the internet against the smarts of a respected professional hockey player.

you speak of intellect and IQ........

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just another canadian player who's not brave enough to handle the pressure of playing in a hockey market. have fun skating in front of 3000 fans you desert redneck :angry:

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Shane Doan agrees on a 4 team deal with the Coyotes if they successful sale by Sept. 15.

John Gambadoro ‏@Gambo620

Coyotes Captain Shane Doan has agreed to 4-year deal to remain with team pending successful sale of team by Sept 15th http://bit.ly/NgkWyF

Retweeted by TEAM Radio

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We knew he was going to re-sign in Phoenix if the sale went through. I don't know why this is news to people.

Nothing has changed other then the fact that we know he has agreed to a deal. The sale still has to go through before the 15th for him to stay there though. And IMO that's a big IF right now.

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Wonder what the likelyhood of a sale going through in a week is. This doesn't seem like a sure thing yet.

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We know this already, and this is also to be expected.

Doan promised he would sign somewhere by the 15th. So of course he agrees to a contract with the Coyotes so when the sale happens, he just has to sign the dotted line. However, the sale will likely not be completed by the 15th.

Unless some of these rumours are true and Jamison has gotten approved by the city of Glendale for the 300 million dollar lease.

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THIS is where the "riffraff" Weiser clap belongs .. how fitting ..

Peace, Doana lovers ..

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So we basically have no new info other than that he/the team have come to agreement on contract terms IF they can finalize the sale by the 15th? (Which at this point, looks highly unlikely).

:lol: at all the reactionaries flipping out and assuming he's no longer available.

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Yea, we haven't improved at all so far - 1st priority is getting a solid 2nd line and it hasn't been fixed. If it stays this way, we aren't winning anything, but now that Doan is outta the way, its time to fix the 2nd line problem by trading Lu I guess.

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I assume the league may have their hands full with the CBA negotiations at the moment. They may not be able to approve the sale before then. Politicking...tick...tick....Doan is saying all the right things, but this could easily backfire and not get resolved...thus allowing for him to change addresses. I feel a 1 year contract might be on the horizon, and not with the yotes.

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I assume the league may have their hands full with the CBA negotiations at the moment. They may not be able to approve the sale before then. Politicking...tick...tick....Doan is saying all the right things, but this could easily backfire and not get resolved...thus allowing for him to change addresses. I feel a 1 year contract might be on the horizon, and not with the yotes.

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Shane Doan: Worth more than $3 million a year......?

Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Shane+Doan+Worth+more+than+million+year+Canucks/7191595/story.html#ixzz25oX0mh1N

We are still waiting on Shane Doan, are we not? Some team, at some point, will fork over millions of dollars for a 35-year-old Doan. He will be 36, plus a few tenths of a year, when the NHL season finally does get under-way.

Doan's entire career can be summed up in a word: durability. Not since he turned 22 has Doan played fewer than 72 games in a regular season, which has helped him put up 11 20-plus-goal seasons. That's eighth among active players.

Doan has been a slight plus-possession player his entire career, faring a little bit better at controlling the shot clock than his teammates. He is not elite, was never elite, and will never be elite. Doan is a durable leader who plugs away at the opposition, being above average for a very, very long time.

A noble player, that's Doan, and some team will fork over millions. That team may be the Vancouver Canucks. It could be the Buffalo Sabres, a team that reportedly offered Doan a four-year contract worth $30 million, well more than he's worth.

When it comes to free agents, too many general managers have paid players following a logic of what the player's production looked like, as opposed to, "What will he do for me over the course of this contract?"

In the last 20 years, there have been 10 players who have since ended their careers but had strong seasons as 33-to-35-year-olds who were also known for their durability. The list includes players like Pat Verbeek, Adam Oates and Mark Recchi.

Let's assume the Canucks have offered Doan a two-year deal. My list of comparables has players losing about 45 per cent of their goal production in the two years after their 35-year-old season.

Comparable players are good to use since it gives us a good idea of what we can expect out of a player like Doan as we move ahead in his career.

Players scored an average of 22.2 goals in their 33-35 years and 12.1 in their 36-37 years, a 45 per cent drop. There's a less drastic, yet still notable, 34 per cent decline in total games played, from 78.8 to 61.0.

We don't have puck possession numbers for players who played before 2008 so it's not enough for a full sample, but when it comes to Doan, a major issue is that players known for being durable, solid goal scorers in their early 30's do not necessarily perform either at the same rate. It is a gamble.

If Doan only plays 60 or 65 games, he is nowhere near as useful as if he's playing 82. Sixty-one, as players his calibre have been historically pegged at, is simply not enough to be effective.

That means that a team paying him millions is probably going to wind up overpaying for Doan's intangible assets, notably grit and leadership, that have made him a hot commodity this sum-mer.

Intangibles are important, but it's impossible to calculate just how much since an intangible is almost by definition something that doesn't exist. We know for certain that Doan does not possess a secret talent to winning a Stanley Cup, since every single team in history has won the Stanley Cup without him on their roster.

But Doan would be an excellent third-line addition. He pushes play forward and is slightly above average at both ends of the ice. At the right price, he fills a gap in the Canucks' lineup.

Recent players who have met the projected standards are players like Cory Stillman, Mike Modano and Robert Lang, and adjusted for the 2013 salary cap, that equals to a little over $3.5 million.

With an expected salary cap rollback, his true value probably falls somewhere below $3 million.

Evidently, Darcy Regier in Buffalo believes that Shane Doan's intangibles are worth $4.5 million. They aren't

Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Shane+Doan+Worth+more+than+million+year+Canucks/7191595/story.html#ixzz25oWhAFbb

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I don't believe Doan had any intention of signing anywhere other than Phoenix, he was just using the Canucks and a few other teams as leverage to get what he wanted. He can go f**k himself.

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