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#331 stawns

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 01:22 PM

Those other dates were reverse deadlines, as in "Shane Doan won't make a decision before this date", etc.

This is the first actual deadline that I've seen so far....


not to mentio everytime some internet blogger puts up some date, everyone takes it as gospel from the Doan camp. Fact is, he probably has never once stated a date he was going to make a decision by.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:42 PM

http://www.azcentral...-agreement.html

via Kukla's Korner

So, does this mean the Jamison sale will not go through before Sept. 15?
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:44 PM

http://www.azcentral...-agreement.html

via Kukla's Korner

So, does this mean the Jamison sale will not go through before Sept. 15?

Nope. It won't go through until at least late September. And we all know when Doan said he'd sign by

:bigblush:
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 05:12 PM

Nope. It won't go through until at least late September. And we all know when Doan said he'd sign by

:bigblush:


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:13 PM

The writing is on the wall, but we're not the only team with lines in the water. Let's just hope we're the one's to land this tuna.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:16 PM

2nd time I use this:

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I'll 3rd this:

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

The writing is on the wall, but we're not the only team with lines in the water. Let's just hope we're the one's to land this tuna.


Its either:

- "We've come up with the money to keep the team!" ~ Phoenix
- "We'll offer you more than anyone to play with us". ~ Buffalo
- "We have a good shot of winning, but we can only offer you two years". ~ NY Rangers
- "We'll offer you 4 years, playing time with the Sedins, closest to home and have a great shot at winning". ~ Vancouver

(Those aren't quotes anyone said, just what the teams have to offer approximately)

Hopefully number 4.

Edited by Frédéric Chopin, 27 August 2012 - 06:23 PM.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:24 PM

http://www.azcentral...-agreement.html

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So, does this mean the Jamison sale will not go through before Sept. 15?

This extension means nothing other than either Jamieson is dragging his feet or cannot close the deal. The more important news is that the Courts overthrew the decision which would have prevented a public vote on the sales tax that generated revenue of +/- $20 mil to the hockey club from the City. If the tax now goes on the November ballot the chances of it passing are not good. In any event how does Jamieson proceed on closing the deal with that hammer over his head. Best case scenario is the deal closes in November. Keep in mind that a new City council, which is on record as against the sales tax, will then be in power.

How can anyone have any confidence that this deal is happening? It is a gong show. Top all that off with a potential lockout. Jamieson's investors will be scattering like cut cats out of a gunny sack.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:24 PM

Its either:

- "We've come up with the money to keep the team!" ~ Phoenix
- "We'll offer you more than anyone to play with us". ~ Buffalo
- "We have a good shot of winning, but we can only offer you two years". ~ NY Rangers
- "We'll offer you 4 years, playing time with the Sedins, closest to home and have a great shot at winning". ~ Vancouver


Hopefully number 4.

Not to sound like a homer but if I'm Doan the 4th option sounds very appetizing to me.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:25 PM

Not to sound like a homer but if I'm Doan the 4th option sounds very appetizing to me.


Not homerish at all. We're offering a lot. That's how Gillis rolls.

Its not just money for our players, its community, character and what kind of organization we are.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:54 PM

I bet you guys anything that, one of his decisions might be

"I won't make a decision at this point until a new CBA has been put in place."

type of b.s. He's already put in multiple deadlines. I find this quite b.s and there are a handful of teams that can't really move on, and awaiting his decision.
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2 Markus Naslund

3 Nathan Mackkinon

4 Jonathan Drouin.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:39 PM

Nah, it's pretty likely that a contract signed under the current CBA will be more favourable than a contract signed under the new CBA in very real terms. As a result, I'd say that Sept. 15 is a hard deadline. If the article is to believed, and Phoenix will not be on certain ground by that date then I think it's safe to say we might finally be getting close to D-Day for Mr. Doan.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:48 PM

Nah, it's pretty likely that a contract signed under the current CBA will be more favourable than a contract signed under the new CBA in very real terms. As a result, I'd say that Sept. 15 is a hard deadline. If the article is to believed, and Phoenix will not be on certain ground by that date then I think it's safe to say we might finally be getting close to D-Day for Mr. Doan.


I heard he might be taking a year off like Thomas. It would be pretty funny if he signed in Europe for 1 year knowing full well that there will be a lockout. All these predictions would be wrong.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:35 PM

I bet you guys anything that, one of his decisions might be

"I won't make a decision at this point until a new CBA has been put in place."

type of b.s. He's already put in multiple deadlines. I find this quite b.s and there are a handful of teams that can't really move on, and awaiting his decision.

You didn't read the quotes from his agent saying that they will make a decision by September 15th because they want to sign a deal BEFORE the new CBA.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:41 PM

I bet you guys anything that, one of his decisions might be

"I won't make a decision at this point until a new CBA has been put in place."

type of b.s. He's already put in multiple deadlines. I find this quite b.s and there are a handful of teams that can't really move on, and awaiting his decision.

No, he hasn't.

And it doesn't make much sense to hold off on signing a deal until a new CBA is negotiated. Do you think things are going to be better for the players?
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:45 PM

Signing Prima Doana to a 4 year deal would be looked back on as a boneheaded move of Messier proportions, who was a 3 year deal, and P. Doana ain't no Messier, even on his best day, ever!!
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:03 PM

Its either:

- "We've come up with the money to keep the team!" ~ Phoenix
- "We'll offer you more than anyone to play with us". ~ Buffalo
- "We have a good shot of winning, but we can only offer you two years". ~ NY Rangers
- "We'll offer you 4 years, playing time with the Sedins, closest to home and have a great shot at winning". ~ Vancouver

(Those aren't quotes anyone said, just what the teams have to offer approximately)

Hopefully number 4.


you forgot

- "We has Crosby." - Pittsburgh
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:08 PM

Signing Prima Doana to a 4 year deal would be looked back on as a boneheaded move of Messier proportions, who was a 3 year deal, and P. Doana ain't no Messier, even on his best day, ever!!


I hate it when people just say something, even if it is just an opinion, without giving any sort of explanation or evidence. If you are in the process of typing something, add a sentence explaining why you think that way.
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Are you CRAZY??? Trade Green for ONE first round pick?? He's restricted after this season.... He WILL get an offer sheet for 7-8 million from a number of teams regardless if he plays another minute for us or not. That offer sheet would be worth 4 first round draft choices.


Some fans overrate their players, and then there is this guy.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:33 PM

you forgot

- "We has Crosby." - Pittsburgh

And...

- "We gots Malkin too." - Pittsburgh

;)
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:50 PM

And...

- "We gots Malkin too." - Pittsburgh

;)

"We've got Jordan Sta... ... ... We've got a Sutter" - Pittsburgh
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:53 PM

"We've got Jordan Sta... ... ... We've got a Sutter" - Pittsburgh

"This James Neal guy is pretty good too." - Pittsburgh
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:06 PM

I hate it when people just say something, even if it is just an opinion, without giving any sort of explanation or evidence. If you are in the process of typing something, add a sentence explaining why you think that way.


My opinion is well known by any who haunt these boards .. some berate me for harping on the fact that Doana is a cheap-shot coward .. over rated and soon to be over paid .. some folks here pee their pants when I keep berating the Prima Doana .. frack em all, says I ..
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:41 PM

Its either:

- "We've come up with the money to keep the team!" ~ Phoenix
- "We'll offer you more than anyone to play with us". ~ Buffalo
- "We have a good shot of winning, but we can only offer you two years". ~ NY Rangers
- "We'll offer you 4 years, playing time with the Sedins, closest to home and have a great shot at winning". ~ Vancouver

(Those aren't quotes anyone said, just what the teams have to offer approximately)

Hopefully number 4.


Let's correct this:

- "Eventhough the NHL is lending me 20 million to buy the team I cannot guarantee you a contract because I'll still be losing 30 million a year" ~ Phoenix

- "We'll offer you more than anyone to play with us but your kids might get kidnapped or murdered". ~ Buffalo

- "We have a good shot of winning, but we can only offer you two years but Manhattan is the best city in earth and your wife will be able to shop on 5th avenue for anything she wants while you live and play in SoHo". ~ NY Rangers

- "We'll offer you 4 years, playing time with the Sedins, closest to home and have a great shot at winning a Cup and if you're part of the team, we might be able to create a dynasty". ~ Vancouver

Edited by Sensemaker, 27 August 2012 - 10:44 PM.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:36 AM

Let's correct this:

- "Eventhough the NHL is lending me 20 million to buy the team I cannot guarantee you a contract because I'll still be losing 30 million a year" ~ Phoenix

- "We'll offer you more than anyone to play with us but your kids might get kidnapped or murdered". ~ Buffalo

- "We have a good shot of winning, but we can only offer you two years but Manhattan is the best city in earth and your wife will be able to shop on 5th avenue for anything she wants while you live and play in SoHo". ~ NY Rangers

- "We'll offer you 4 years, playing time with the Sedins, closest to home and have a great shot at winning a Cup and if you're part of the team, we might be able to create a dynasty". ~ Vancouver


I think you're confusing Buffalo with Harlem...
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 10:28 AM

I hate it when people just say something, even if it is just an opinion, without giving any sort of explanation or evidence. If you are in the process of typing something, add a sentence explaining why you think that way.


It's well known that a 4 year deal for a player over 35 is just not a good idea. I'd go 3 years max but I'd prefer two.
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 10:32 AM

I think you're confusing Buffalo with Harlem...


No, there is a reason why it's call "Buffa-hole"
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:22 PM

Kids these days will die before their parents, with all the facts there for them to learn about health, but yet they still eat McDonalds everyday and will die at 30, while listening to, quite possibly, the most contrived, cookie cutter music ever recorded.

Prove me wrong, kids!

I wish I lived in the 70's, without Facebook, with good music and drugs.

:-D

...and oh yeah, sign Doan!!

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:35 PM

Kids these days will die before their parents, with all the facts there for them to learn about health, but yet they still eat McDonalds everyday and will die at 30, while listening to, quite possibly, the most contrived, cookie cutter music ever recorded.

Prove me wrong, kids!

I wish I lived in the 70's, without Facebook, with good music and drugs.

:-D

...and oh yeah, sign Doan!!


Well there's a generalization if I've ever heard one!

First of all, life expectancy has been going up since the 70's not down. And from what I can tell, there's more focus on health and nutrition in food advertisements then there has ever been. Remember when things like smoking, asbestos, pesticides, and aerosol cans weren't harmful?

Kids eating McDonald's every day is a product of poor parenting. There will always be fat unhealthy people.

Oh and FYI, pop music has always been cookie cutter. The Beatles in their early days invented cookie cutter music in case you didn't know. Just avoid listening to "today's top music" stations and you'll be fine.

Good music still exists if you look around enough, and no one is forcing anyone to go on facebook. And last time I checked the drugs are still there.

Life is what you make of it. Oh, and sign Doan.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:40 PM

18 days left you guys, until something happens.

Oh and also - I know giving a 35+ aged player a 4 year deal would be bad, but there are a few examples where its been okay.

Alfredsson, Selanne & Brodeur off the top of my head.
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 04:38 PM

Is there any proof that Vancouver is offering 4 years, because I frankly want no part in that. If I had to, I would still only offer 3 years, with a discount.
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