NucksPatsFan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, peaches5 said: I don't see how The Pats beat The Chargers. Tom Brady's achilles is pressure and The Chargers have 3 very good pass rushers. Then throw in Rivers being a great QB especially in pressure games and I expect him to put up some points 33pts or so. I am seeing NE with their receiving core putting up 17 max. How do you beat pressure? Get rid of the ball quick. Who's the best at getting rid of the ball quick? Brady. Who is ranked 2nd last in defense against pass catching running backs? Chargers. Who weaponizes running backs in the passing game the most? The Pats. Both teams have blue prints to beat each other, but the weather is on the Pats side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 hours ago, NucksPatsFan said: How do you beat pressure? Get rid of the ball quick. Who's the best at getting rid of the ball quick? Brady. Who is ranked 2nd last in defense against pass catching running backs? Chargers. Who weaponizes running backs in the passing game the most? The Pats. Both teams have blue prints to beat each other, but the weather is on the Pats side. The passing game has been brutal this year. Really the only shot NE has is to get the lead early if they have to play from behind and throw the ball deep it is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, peaches5 said: The passing game has been brutal this year. Really the only shot NE has is to get the lead early if they have to play from behind and throw the ball deep it is over. Since when is having a 4000+ yard passer and the 4th ranked offense considered a brutal passing game? If Edelman and Gronk didn't miss the games they did, probably looking at a close to 5000 yard passing season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 hours ago, NucksPatsFan said: How do you beat pressure? Get rid of the ball quick. Who's the best at getting rid of the ball quick? Brady. Who is ranked 2nd last in defense against pass catching running backs? Chargers. Who weaponizes running backs in the passing game the most? The Pats. Both teams have blue prints to beat each other, but the weather is on the Pats side. That's pressure from outside the tackles. Do the Charges apply pressure up the middle or from the outside. I pick the Pats to go the Bowl, but lose there to Drew Brees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van40 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Time to revisit a year long headline. People wouldn't shut up about Mack and how Gruden traded away the greatest defensive player ever yet the Bears couldn't even win a playoff game . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, Van40 said: Time to revisit a year long headline. People wouldn't shut up about Mack and how Gruden traded away the greatest defensive player ever yet the Bears couldn't even win a playoff game . Lol, Mack can't kick FG's. 19 hours ago, NucksPatsFan said: Since when is having a 4000+ yard passer and the 4th ranked offense considered a brutal passing game? By Patriots standards that's pretty brutal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 12:19 PM, NucksPatsFan said: How do you beat pressure? Get rid of the ball quick. Who's the best at getting rid of the ball quick? Brady. Statistically Brady is actually 7th in the NFL and was 24th last season and 15th in 2016 Though he usually has time to throw given his O-line has been pretty solid through his career. Some QBs just get rid of it quickly because they have no time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, Baka said: Statistically Brady is actually 7th in the NFL and was 24th last season and 15th in 2016 Though he usually has time to throw given his O-line has been pretty solid through his career. Some QBs just get rid of it quickly because they have no time. So he's quicker than the years in which he went to back to back super bowls? I'll take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 42 minutes ago, Van40 said: Time to revisit a year long headline. People wouldn't shut up about Mack and how Gruden traded away the greatest defensive player ever yet the Bears couldn't even win a playoff game . Did the raiders even contend in any games this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 50 minutes ago, Van40 said: Time to revisit a year long headline. People wouldn't shut up about Mack and how Gruden traded away the greatest defensive player ever yet the Bears couldn't even win a playoff game . Excellent point. And what does Mack to for the Raiders other than screw up their draft standing by helping them win a couple more games? Raiders draft high, and often. Smart moving trading the guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van40 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, NucksPatsFan said: Did the raiders even contend in any games this year Rebuilding year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, Alflives said: Excellent point. And what does Mack to for the Raiders other than screw up their draft standing by helping them win a couple more games? Raiders draft high, and often. Smart moving trading the guy. That was a terrible trade, akin to us trading EP40 because we aren't going to make the playoffs this year. It's ok, I am sure Mike Mayock reporting directly to Gruden will change things around, I wonder if they'll save money and skip hiring a broadcast crew lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Van40 said: Rebuilding year? They had a franchise defensive stud and a #1 WR.. They didn't need to do a full rebuild. Gruden's ego wanted to strip the team and build it with "his type of guys". Wait to see who that 1st round pick turns into and his impact on Oakland before judging the trade. Chicago wins the trade 10 out of 10 times unless they draft a perennial pro bowler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, NucksPatsFan said: They had a franchise defensive stud and a #1 WR.. They didn't need to do a full rebuild. Gruden's ego wanted to strip the team and build it with "his type of guys". Wait to see who that 1st round pick turns into and his impact on Oakland before judging the trade. Chicago wins the trade 10 out of 10 times unless they draft a perennial pro bowler Weren't there two firsts? Gotta hope to strike gold on both of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Think the Saints might be motivated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van40 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, NucksPatsFan said: They had a franchise defensive stud and a #1 WR.. They didn't need to do a full rebuild. Gruden's ego wanted to strip the team and build it with "his type of guys". Wait to see who that 1st round pick turns into and his impact on Oakland before judging the trade. Chicago wins the trade 10 out of 10 times unless they draft a perennial pro bowler So they should of became the old Detriot Lions? Who were in cap hell with Stafford, Megatron, and Suh? Raiders were hardly a playoff team with Mack and Cooper. Gruden made the right decision. Even if those draft picks don't pan out, the Raiders will have lots of cap space. Could always trade down and acquire even more ammo in the draft as well. Rebuild>mediocrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van40 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Excellent point. And what does Mack to for the Raiders other than screw up their draft standing by helping them win a couple more games? Raiders draft high, and often. Smart moving trading the guy. This. Moving on from overpaid Carr should be next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Van40 said: This. Moving on from overpaid Carr should be next. I wouldn't at all be surprised if Gruden drafts a QB within the first two rounds. Maybe he could get a 2nd for Carr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, Alflives said: I wouldn't at all be surprised if Gruden drafts a QB within the first two rounds. Maybe he could get a 2nd for Carr? Not much for qbs in this draft aside from haskins alf. Better to wait a year or two before making that choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, Isam said: Not much for qbs in this draft aside from haskins alf. Better to wait a year or two before making that choice. Maybe better to get one in the later rounds then? Brady was round 5? Wilson was round 3? Could get lucky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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