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2 hours ago, spur1 said:

Lol..... I see the NFL was top notch in Winnipeg last night. Could not even out draw the Bombers. :gocan:

I hear the NFL is going from a 100 yard field to an 80 yard one too.  :gocan:

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3 hours ago, spur1 said:

Lol..... I see the NFL was top notch in Winnipeg last night. Could not even out draw the Bombers. :gocan:

 

30 minutes ago, Alflives said:

I hear the NFL is going from a 100 yard field to an 80 yard one too.  :gocan:

NFL players and league approved the field conditions the day before, then Green Bay changed their mind- bush league.:gocan:

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40 minutes ago, gurn said:

 

NFL players and league approved the field conditions the day before, then Green Bay changed their mind- bush league.:gocan:

Probably because they landed in Calgary by mistake!

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Andrew Harris suspended for positive test.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nfl/cfl-suspends-bombers-harris-for-two-games-for-positive-drug-test/ar-AAGlWfg?ocid=spartandhp

 

WINNIPEG — Blue Bombers running back Andrew Harris says a case of product contamination led to his positive test for an anabolic steroid.

 

The CFL announced Monday that Harris been suspended two games for positive test for Metandienone, a banned substance under the joint drug policy of the league and the CFL Players' Association.

"It's been devastating. It's been hard to focus on football," said Harris during a press conference Monday. "After we win a game, I'm thinking about what's going to happen in a couple of days or possibly next week, and how this is going to affect my team and the journey we're on. I don't want to be a distraction. I would never want to put my team in jeopardy or myself in jeopardy, or my career. Now I've got to face the music and just try to move on."

Harris said he believes a legal nutritional supplement tainted with Metandieone, an anabolic steroid and performance enhancing drug commonly sold under the brand name Dianabol, caused him to test positive.

"I've known about this for three weeks," he said "This has been extremely hard."

Both of Harris' A and B samples tested positive, which means the appeal process has already been completed.

"When I first found out I didn't even really believe it. I was kind of beside myself," he said. "I just wanted answers. Getting that B sample is something we went through, and it was the same answer. So at that point there was not much else you can do."

Since learning of his positive test, Harris moved into the CFL's Top 10 all-time rushing list, while also becoming the all-time leader among Canadian players in yards from scrimmage.

"I took a supplement... that stated it was all natural ingredients. Obviously it wasn't. And I'm taking full responsibility for the fact that I did take that. But from the ingredients listed on the label, it said all natural." 

Harris claims been tested for banned substances more often than any of his Blue Bombers teammates; eight times since joining his hometown Blue Bombers in 2016, he said, including three times this year.

Harris said his blood and urine were clean when tested March 1 and again on July 2 before a positive urine sample was collected in a third test conducted July 12.

"The one thing I have on my side is the timing and the volume," said Harris. "I've been tested three times this year, I've been tested more than any other player in my four years here, and I've never had an issue.

"If I was intentionally taking this substance, there would be more of a volume in my system, instead of a small trace."

Harris would not reveal the specific supplement he ingested.

"It was a men's male energy supplement. It's basically anti-oxidant, multi-vitamin, and then there's some natural testosterone enhancers. A lot of these companies work with different labs and different manufacturers, and my assumption is that's where it came from. I'm going to be working on trying to figure out the actual source."

Blue Bombers head coach Mike O'Shea believes Harris did not ingest a banned substance on purpose.

"Ultimately, every athlete in any sport that has a drug-testing policy is responsible for what they ingest," O'Shea said. "And Andrew knew that. He's not sidestepping that. He's responsible for that. Just the fact he was tested 10 days prior with a blood and urine sample, and that came back clean.... to me it's pretty evident he ingested something in a supplement that he was unaware was contaminated and then tested positive 10 days later."

O'Shea was asked for his initial reaction after learning Harris tested positive.

"Obviously disbelief, and feel for the guy. Andrew's worked so bloody hard to get to where he's at, and to do things the right way. Certainly shock, and then want to make sure he's OK," O'Shea said.

There has been clear support from Harris' teammates as roughly 10 Blue Bombers players entered Monday's press conference at IG Field.

"I'm one of those people who that supports my friends in triumph and turmoil," said Winnipeg quarterback Matt Nichols. "Obviously it's a tough situation for Andrew but I think more than anything it's a lesson that with all the supplement companies out there, there's a lot that's cross-contaminated and there's a lot of cases like this thing happening."

The CFL's current rushing leader will miss the annual Labour Day Classic and Banjo Bowl back-to-backs between the Winnipeg Blue Bombers and Saskatchewan Roughriders, and will be eligible to return to the field following Winnipeg's bye week when they face the Montreal Alouettes on Sept. 21.

Darrin Bauming, The Canadian Press

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33 minutes ago, gurn said:

Andrew Harris suspended for positive test.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nfl/cfl-suspends-bombers-harris-for-two-games-for-positive-drug-test/ar-AAGlWfg?ocid=spartandhp

 

WINNIPEG — Blue Bombers running back Andrew Harris says a case of product contamination led to his positive test for an anabolic steroid.

 

The CFL announced Monday that Harris been suspended two games for positive test for Metandienone, a banned substance under the joint drug policy of the league and the CFL Players' Association.

"It's been devastating. It's been hard to focus on football," said Harris during a press conference Monday. "After we win a game, I'm thinking about what's going to happen in a couple of days or possibly next week, and how this is going to affect my team and the journey we're on. I don't want to be a distraction. I would never want to put my team in jeopardy or myself in jeopardy, or my career. Now I've got to face the music and just try to move on."

Harris said he believes a legal nutritional supplement tainted with Metandieone, an anabolic steroid and performance enhancing drug commonly sold under the brand name Dianabol, caused him to test positive.

"I've known about this for three weeks," he said "This has been extremely hard."

Both of Harris' A and B samples tested positive, which means the appeal process has already been completed.

"When I first found out I didn't even really believe it. I was kind of beside myself," he said. "I just wanted answers. Getting that B sample is something we went through, and it was the same answer. So at that point there was not much else you can do."

Since learning of his positive test, Harris moved into the CFL's Top 10 all-time rushing list, while also becoming the all-time leader among Canadian players in yards from scrimmage.

"I took a supplement... that stated it was all natural ingredients. Obviously it wasn't. And I'm taking full responsibility for the fact that I did take that. But from the ingredients listed on the label, it said all natural." 

Harris claims been tested for banned substances more often than any of his Blue Bombers teammates; eight times since joining his hometown Blue Bombers in 2016, he said, including three times this year.

Harris said his blood and urine were clean when tested March 1 and again on July 2 before a positive urine sample was collected in a third test conducted July 12.

"The one thing I have on my side is the timing and the volume," said Harris. "I've been tested three times this year, I've been tested more than any other player in my four years here, and I've never had an issue.

"If I was intentionally taking this substance, there would be more of a volume in my system, instead of a small trace."

Harris would not reveal the specific supplement he ingested.

"It was a men's male energy supplement. It's basically anti-oxidant, multi-vitamin, and then there's some natural testosterone enhancers. A lot of these companies work with different labs and different manufacturers, and my assumption is that's where it came from. I'm going to be working on trying to figure out the actual source."

Blue Bombers head coach Mike O'Shea believes Harris did not ingest a banned substance on purpose.

"Ultimately, every athlete in any sport that has a drug-testing policy is responsible for what they ingest," O'Shea said. "And Andrew knew that. He's not sidestepping that. He's responsible for that. Just the fact he was tested 10 days prior with a blood and urine sample, and that came back clean.... to me it's pretty evident he ingested something in a supplement that he was unaware was contaminated and then tested positive 10 days later."

O'Shea was asked for his initial reaction after learning Harris tested positive.

"Obviously disbelief, and feel for the guy. Andrew's worked so bloody hard to get to where he's at, and to do things the right way. Certainly shock, and then want to make sure he's OK," O'Shea said.

There has been clear support from Harris' teammates as roughly 10 Blue Bombers players entered Monday's press conference at IG Field.

"I'm one of those people who that supports my friends in triumph and turmoil," said Winnipeg quarterback Matt Nichols. "Obviously it's a tough situation for Andrew but I think more than anything it's a lesson that with all the supplement companies out there, there's a lot that's cross-contaminated and there's a lot of cases like this thing happening."

The CFL's current rushing leader will miss the annual Labour Day Classic and Banjo Bowl back-to-backs between the Winnipeg Blue Bombers and Saskatchewan Roughriders, and will be eligible to return to the field following Winnipeg's bye week when they face the Montreal Alouettes on Sept. 21.

Darrin Bauming, The Canadian Press

Dianabol is what Ben Johnson took.  It’s a horse steroid.  Harris isn’t the only cheater on his team, or in the CFL.  It’s friggin’ football!  Hello, McFly.  Of course these guys are taking roids.  

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He was not expecting another test so soon. However the amount says accidental or single dose. 

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Great game for the West Finals. East game kind of went the way it looked pregame. 

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The one thing that baffles me the most about this Grey Cup, is it's not televised on CBC.... Instead TSN carries the Grey Cup, so people have to have a tv provider to watch a game that already struggles to get viewers imo. Why not put it on CBC and people who don't pay for cable could actually pick up the game on satellite and watch it, and maybe get more people interested watching this sport, but hey who cares right why would you want more people watching the CFL :gocan:

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5 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

The one thing that baffles me the most about this Grey Cup, is it's not televised on CBC.... Instead TSN carries the Grey Cup, so people have to have a tv provider to watch a game that already struggles to get viewers imo. Why not put it on CBC and people who don't pay for cable could actually pick up the game on satellite and watch it, and maybe get more people interested watching this sport, but hey who cares right why would you want more people watching the CFL :gocan:

TSN gave the CFL a boatload of cash. They have the broadcast rights to the league. Thus no CBC!

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9 minutes ago, johngould21 said:

TSN gave the CFL a boatload of cash. They have the broadcast rights to the league. Thus no CBC!

I get that, just stupid of CFL lol.

 

This game is so popular look at how many are talking about it on here :towel:

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2 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

I get that, just stupid of CFL lol.

 

This game is so popular look at how many are talking about it on here :towel:

Very true! Not a bad game so far, and the halftime show was as good as the SuperBowl.

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Was hoping for a better game.  So far

3 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said:

I get that, just stupid of CFL lol.

 

This game is so popular look at how many are talking about it on here :towel:

Imagine that, not a lot of people talking about football on a hockey forum.

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13 minutes ago, Grapefruits said:

Was hoping for a better game.  So far

Imagine that, not a lot of people talking about football on a hockey forum.

Yeah.... Why would anyone talk about the NFL in a hockey forum when a Grey Cup is going on instead.....

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disappointing grey cup usually they are nail biters that come down to the last play of the game with some dramatic finish. 

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Unless you are Winnipeg fan, this Grey Cup was a bust.   Who likes a blow out win by one team unless you are the fan of the winning team.

 

Nevertheless, Hamilton played awful, both offensively and defensively and Winnipeg deserved to win.  Andrew Harris played great.   Hamilton simply could not stop anything Winnipeg did, especially Harris.  Plus the fact that Hamilton turned the ball over so times did not help them either.

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5 hours ago, Grapefruits said:

Was hoping for a better game.  So far

Imagine that, not a lot of people talking about football on a hockey forum.

Actually,  there are a lot people talking about football on a hockey forum.   Its called the NFL thread.  There are only 10 posts since August 10 on the CFL thread, compared to hundreds of posts on the NFL thread.   In fact, just today the NFL thread has more posts (19) in one day than 3 months on the CFL thread (10).

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58 minutes ago, DonLever said:

Actually,  there are a lot people talking about football on a hockey forum.   Its called the NFL thread.  There are only 10 posts since August 10 on the CFL thread, compared to hundreds of posts on the NFL thread.   In fact, just today the NFL thread has more posts (19) in one day than 3 months on the CFL thread (10).

The number of posts would be higher if/when the Lions become competitive.

They would also be higher if I wasn't working this p.m. and unable to watch the Cup.

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