The Big Luongo Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 You can't ban someone for speaking their mind. While Big Luongo's schtick on the Sedins being soft is tired cliche, considering how excellent Henrik was in the playoffs, Edler is the exact opposite of Henrik. Henrik is consistent, he is the greatest passer and one of the greatest playmakers in the game today. We watched him become a warrior in the short-lived playoff run. He was consistent every game. Edler is not. He never has been. Therefore he cannot be the highest paid defenceman on the team. Big Luongo is right about another point. Edler lacks a killer instinct. This was evident not only during the playoffs, but long stretches of the regular season. Yes he possesses a powerful shot and can dish out big hits, but he fails to do either with any consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHodgson9 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Edler's Agent knows he can get $6M + on the open market, and if you think otherwise you're the idiot. If Edler really wants a big deal, a 6'4 Allstar 50pt dman who is young and coming into his prime will surely get it. The only reason he takes less to stay here is because he takes a "home town discount" and he enjoys his comfortable surroundings with the only team he's ever known. Otherwise look to him to be heavily pursued by philly/det especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Luongo Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Edler's Agent knows he can get $6M + on the open market, and if you think otherwiise you're the idiot. If Edler really wants a big deal, a 6'4 Allstar 50pt dman who is young and coming into his prime will surely get it. The only reason he takes less to stay here is because he takes a "home town discount" and he enjoys his comfortable surroundings with the only team he's ever known. Otherwise look to him to be heavily pursued by philly/det especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheels22 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Hopefully he will want to stay and we can sign him for around 5 mill a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing With Pride Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I love CDC mentality. When a Canuck player's contract is coming up, their weaknesses are explained in every exact detail. However when we are trying to trade them their value is through the roof with little to no weaknesses. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Luongo Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I love CDC mentality. When a Canuck player's contract is coming up, their weaknesses are explained in every exact detail. However when we are trying to trade them their value is through the roof with little to no weaknesses. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHansenFan Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Destroy ya right you didn't prove a thing. The Sedins are as soft as Edler so what! That just makes it all the more important that someone as soft as Edler isn't on their line because they could really use someone who has some balls. Defensemen in the NHL should have some ability to be tough especially on the Canucks where we are pretty soft throughout. The Sedins, Burrows and Keslers need a tough dman with them to keep the opposition honest. I can't believe how many like you can' t see that this is a must have in order for the skilled players to do their thing did you not see thr Boston series lol. Look if Edlers defensive game was much tighter i could put up with him being so soft but the guy too many times looks like a rookie getting caught wondering all over the ice flat footed and lost it's hard to watch. A top team should have a more solid player then Edler or like we all witnessed against LA it's just going to keep hurting our chances to win. Edlers brutal play was totally unnacceptable and he was a major reason we lost that series and unfortunately it hasn't been the first time i have seen him play so brutal. He is much worse defensively then a lot of people want to admit and bad far too often even leading AV to call him out on it. Btw Hamhuis's bad games are few and far between compared to Edler's that's ridiculous comparing their defensive games Hamhuis is ten times better defensively then Edler lol. If i am MG i offer Hamhuis Bieksa money at best and if he doesn't accept i deal him with Luongo. Edler has far too many holes in his game including the lack of toughness i think a defensemen needs to get any more money then them. I am hoping that MG is saying to Edlers agent the same thing and saying get your full game together and then we will talk elite dman money and if not trade him. Without the Sedins this guy will be nothing. The Canucks will be just fine without him and maybe better off especially if him and his agent are getting greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 LP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Long term with Edler for big money could backfire and personally i would rather see him traded. Unless somehow he can get his act together i think it would help our team more if he was traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I agree with this 100%. If he signs somewhere between 5-5.5, its a little rich but alright. If he's asking for WAY more, I would ship him out. His hype and reputation on paper is worth much more than the real Alex Edler as a player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 6 years 4.75 per year. Sean Avery has the softest hands in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeeterHansen Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Edler will probably be traded as he doesn't seem like the tpye of guy who will take a "hometown discount" - I hope I'm wrong! I love to gargle with ketchup twice a day. Every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 If he doesn't sign with us just because if money I wouldnt want him. Just like with Ehrhoff, I dont want someone greedy like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaches Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 But I think he will re-sign. He took #23 because that was his scouts number or something. He also doesn't seem like the greedy type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 If Gillis loses him too, then he deserves to be fired. You can't expect everyone to take a home town discount. frack dude, this is a 50 point defencemen, and this is how they negotiate. They negotiate based on the players total points. I'm sure he's not asking for 7 million, but man, I don't care what happens, losing Edler will be a f in huge blow to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeria Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I think people bashing Edler doesn't realize we don't really have good option other than to sign him. Weber's locked up and Suter's gone too. If you want to replace Edler, it's just not possible. There aren't so many D's these days as young as him who skates and hits decent while putting up quite a bit of points. Sure, he messes things up badly at times, but if you want him to never make ANY mistake in any situation, then you're basically asking for a Lidstrom. Fans need to THINK before babbling because realistically - and without trading key pieces like Sedins or Kesler - , there's absolutely nobody in the league we could get to replace Edler. People don't seem to realize we're not in great shape when it comes to our D. If you want Edler gone, then we're left with: Hamhuis - Bieksa Garrison - Ballard Tanev - ??? That lineup *might* get us through the first round. Not really after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eretz canucks Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Agree with above post. Edler and Raymond for Bobby Ryan and a 3rd would be sweet but then we are very thin on defense, impeded to replace Edler, we'd have to give up quite a bit, very hard to find someone as young and as good as him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Luongo Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 People rate Edlers good offensive abilities a way too high. The Sedins will make any decent offensive defencemans point totals into a all stars and imo Kevin Connauton will get just as many points as Edler in his first season if given the chance. Connauton has worked very hard at his defensive game, is very physical, has great passing skills, has a great shot and uses it well, is very mobile and is a very good rusher of the puck . If the Canucks put Connauton in early season and work with him closely there's no doubt in my mind he will do excellent and will be in fine form come playoff time. We have a strong team around him including an awesome goalie to help him out as well. We should use Edlers money somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Orange Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I think people bashing Edler doesn't realize we don't really have good option other than to sign him. Weber's locked up and Suter's gone too. If you want to replace Edler, it's just not possible. There aren't so many D's these days as young as him who skates and hits decent while putting up quite a bit of points. Sure, he messes things up badly at times, but if you want him to never make ANY mistake in any situation, then you're basically asking for a Lidstrom. Fans need to THINK before babbling because realistically - and without trading key pieces like Sedins or Kesler - , there's absolutely nobody in the league we could get to replace Edler. People don't seem to realize we're not in great shape when it comes to our D. If you want Edler gone, then we're left with: Hamhuis - Bieksa Garrison - Ballard Tanev - ??? That lineup *might* get us through the first round. Not really after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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