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#1 Alex the Great

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:29 AM

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METRO VANCOUVER — The buzz continues to escalate throughout the Fraser Valley real estate community that Francesco Aquilini has his sights on buying the Abbotsford Entertainment and Sports Centre and the land it occupies. By extension, Aquilini would cut a deal with the Calgary Flames that would result in the Vancouver Canucks’ No. 1 farm team, the Chicago Wolves, switched to Abbotsford.

Calgary’s American Hockey League affiliate — the Abbotsford Heat — are locked into a 10-year supply fee agreement with the City of Abbotsford and after three years, it’s been a disaster. The Heat played four post-season games this season in their home building that can accommodate 7,046 fans for hockey and drew an average of 2,389.

There is a hockey board meeting scheduled for Sept. 7 at 2 p.m. in Abbotsford. Ken King, president of the Calgary Flames, will be there. Lane Sweeting, chairman of Fraser Valley Sports and Entertainment as well as Abbotsford Heat Hockey Ltd., says that while he has not been told anything by the city about a potential Aquilini takeover, it would not surprise him. Aquilini did not respond to messages left for him Friday


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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:34 AM

I think most saw this coming. This is long overdue.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:34 AM

This would be great! Then the Canucks prospects are just a short drive from Rogers Arena if they are called up instead of a 4 hr plane ride!

This would be a very good move for the Canucks.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:41 AM

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I think more fans would go catch a game knowing the team is part of the Canucks organization. I really think it would be a great move for both organizations.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:42 AM

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The Heat and the AESC are losing a lot of money. Over 2 million a year, in fact.

I have thought for some time that it was a terrible move to not only move Calgary's farm team into this area, but, to call them the Heat, and have them wear basically the same uniforms, and even have the same goal horn, as the Flames. Any other team with any other logo and uniform would have done fine, IMO.

I live about a 3 minute walk from AESC, and have never gotten into the Heat despite it being an affordable option that's far closer to my home than any other. I have been to many games, but, find myself cheering for the opposition most of the time. Sad,and maybe even unfair on my part, but, I have been raised to hate the Flames, and no matter what, I always will..
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:42 AM

Our prospects will have more travel than any other in the NHL, one of the leading factors that negatively impacts development. Not to mention getting thrown in the fish bowl early, which has been known to destroy player's development.

As an Abbotsford resident, on the other hand, it would certainly be great for me and my city.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:45 AM

Would they be able to complete the move in time for the 2012-13 season (ignoring the possibility of a lockout)?
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:49 AM

If the Canucks bought the heat, it would be a great deal for both teams. Abbotsford's attendance would skyrocket. Only question is, would playing in the Fraser Valley put too much pressure on the prospects? If the deal gets done, I will definitely go to a game when I want some cheaper Canucks entertainment.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:52 AM

what a great move this would be. my parents are heat season ticket owners... if the team changed hands and affiliations, those would be so much more valuable to me :bigblush:
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:57 AM

This would be a great move by Aquilini, that dude must have some serious cash. I don't know if the Flames are in support of having their farm team moved all the way out to Chicago. I'd make the treck for some heat games for sure.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:01 PM

Would they be able to complete the move in time for the 2012-13 season (ignoring the possibility of a lockout)?

The lockout wouldn't affect the AHL, though, would it? That'd mean Canucks fans would have hockey to watch with players they like to follow in the event of a lockout. So long as the whole organizations would swap (location, logos, affiliation, players, coaches, etc) they'd have sellouts every home game while the NHL twiddles it's thumbs
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:09 PM

hmmmmm would this hurt rogers arena attendance
- half the people at rogers arena are fair weather fans, eating sushi, drinking coffee and texting on the phone

i can see the fans in abby being loud beer drinking hockey crazed fans


it wont hurt attendance but it might just be a better crowd

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:12 PM

This is great news for Canucks fans. Chicago is way too far and I kinda felt not as close to our prospects since they moved from the Peg. Weird but its true.

I would love to get a chance to go watch a few games a year to see our prospects in Abbotsford.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:16 PM

What would they call them?

I dont think they can remain as the Heat, with their name and colours being directly related to the Flames
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:18 PM

Our prospects will have more travel than any other in the NHL, one of the leading factors that negatively impacts development. Not to mention getting thrown in the fish bowl early, which has been known to destroy player's development.

As an Abbotsford resident, on the other hand, it would certainly be great for me and my city.


I disagree, I believe that it's good if they are experiencing the extra traveling now rather than having to adapt to the transition when they get called up to the Canucks. The Canucks do more traveling than any other hockey club in the NHL, so to get that experience in now makes it that much easier come time when they start playing for the Vancouver Canucks.

Edited by Danthecanucksfan, 18 August 2012 - 12:20 PM.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:19 PM

This would be a great move. I know Canucks fans would fill the building in Abbotsford to see our future prospects.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:22 PM

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Our prospects will have more travel than any other in the NHL, one of the leading factors that negatively impacts development. Not to mention getting thrown in the fish bowl early, which has been known to destroy player's development.

As an Abbotsford resident, on the other hand, it would certainly be great for me and my city.


Our NHL team has the worst travel already. Getting used to it early might make the jump up to the big club easier. Same with the media; the time to get used to it is not when a prospect has played a couple games and has gone pointless.

The proximity to Vancouver enables them to have easier access to the Canucks' resources, which should help with their development.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:22 PM

About time.

Funny how a year ago everyone with the Heat was putting a brave face on it but money always talks loudest. No doubt in my mind that a Nuck farm team in the valley would rake in the dough.

No issue with it hurting the big club. Totally different crowd. Some diehards but most are there just to be seen. Canucks priced me out long time ago but I would check out the farmhands few times a year.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:27 PM

Hope this happens. I already go see some Heat games, but I would definitely feel more comfortable cheering for our own prospects!
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:35 PM

great news
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:36 PM

pros

prospects close by
management able to keep watchful eye on development
prospects involved in more organization functions
prospect can start deep roots within the community- family / charity
fans are able to watch prospect more often
attendance and profits will rise for Heat Organization
get to live near a world class city
mild winters
cons

lots of travel for prospects
prospects in constant eye of fans and management
Vancouver media
CDC ..........lol
lots of rain
expensive city (vancouver)



add to the list if u can think of any

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:38 PM

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What would they call them?

I dont think they can remain as the Heat, with their name and colours being directly related to the Flames


well the canucks did purchase the rights for the millionaires and have done nothing with them.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:43 PM

About time.

Funny how a year ago everyone with the Heat was putting a brave face on it but money always talks loudest. No doubt in my mind that a Nuck farm team in the valley would rake in the dough.

No issue with it hurting the big club. Totally different crowd. Some diehards but most are there just to be seen. Canucks priced me out long time ago but I would check out the farmhands few times a year.

exactly

and some people cant afford to go to canucks games too much

so theres still a crowd for them , screw all that fishbowl stuff , they would be fine and they get to deal with something they have to deal with eventually which is the fans and the media
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:46 PM

expensive city (vancouver)


add to the list if u can think of any


I don't know how Vancouver being expensive would effect them?

They would be living in Abbotsford and apartments are not as expensive here.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:56 PM

That place will be near capacity , smart move by ownership.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:03 PM

well the canucks did purchase the rights for the millionaires and have done nothing with them.

Abbotsford Millionaires eh?
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:08 PM

i love having an owner committed to winning and spending cash, hope he can get this done.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:09 PM

The lockout wouldn't affect the AHL, though, would it? That'd mean Canucks fans would have hockey to watch with players they like to follow in the event of a lockout. So long as the whole organizations would swap (location, logos, affiliation, players, coaches, etc) they'd have sellouts every home game while the NHL twiddles it's thumbs

Ignoring the lockout as in...if the season were to start on time, would they be able to complete the move in less than a month.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:10 PM

I don't know why every professional team WOULDN'T have their farm team close-by... It's silly not to, really!
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:15 PM

I don't know why every professional team WOULDN'T have their farm team close-by... It's silly not to, really!

It is kinda silly for the Canucks to have their affiliate in Abbotsford since its not near most cities that the NHL and AHL team plays in. Taxing for the players and difficult when an emergency situation arises.
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