Sharpshooter Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 To be honest, I'm not even going to pick one. If a dude shows up and starts making the Sun and Moon dance in the sky, and he says he's Xenu and we were all wrong and Scientology was, somehow, correct, I'm going to get behind the guy who is making the Sun and Moon dance in the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Ramadan Reminder Day 16 - Islam vs Evolution - Yasir Qadhi | August 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Here is the fact: You do not believe in God had anything to do with evolution or the universe for that matter Here is the unknown: How did you get to that conclusion. Possible theories: 1) Factual ie: It's a fact God does not exist 2) Faith ie: because of such and such, I am of the opinion that God is probably not real The answer is obviously #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Even if you could prove evolution, it wouldn't disprove creation. Both are true. edit: well maybe it could. but what modern scientists know about evolution does not disprove that God created Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Ugh, that was painful to watch. Essentially what he said, was that no matter how much evidence there is, you have to ignore it if it contradicts the literal story of the Quran. How intellectually dishonest is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sedin's 6th Sense Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Sharpshooter, no offense, but no need to douche it out with others if you can't get them to agree with you. Your not perfect.. ..only God is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 You can't exactly disprove it but using logic would suggest there probably isn't a creator. There's at least no valid, sufficient evidence to suggest a creator therefore no real reason to believe in one. A certain caller on the Atheist Experience wanted to talk about intelligent design and said "Everything points to creation/intelligent design" and Matt responded with: ... "Like the fact I have one tube that I use for breathing and eating where I can choke and die rather easily. That's stupid design". A simple rebuttal and that's all that was necessary. And of course there is a video with Degrasse Tyson talking about intelligent design and he mentions some of the wonderful things about the human body like the ball and joint socket but he also mentions how we eat, drink and breathe through the same tube. He discusses all of the things of the Earth that can kill us and further elaborates about the vastness of the universe and the volume of which you can't live because it will kill you instantly. None of which points to intelligent design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Sharpshooter, no offense, but no need to douche it out with others if you can't get them to agree with you. Your not perfect.. ..only God is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 Ugh, that was painful to watch. Essentially what he said, was that no matter how much evidence there is, you have to ignore it if it contradicts the literal story of the Quran. How intellectually dishonest is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sedin's 6th Sense Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Says the guy who doesn't seem to know the difference between 'you're' and 'your', No offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 I have no reason to believe such a thing. Are you privy to some evidence for a supernatural cause of the evolutionary process or for the universe, that i'm not privy to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleman26 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I certainly don't support Creationism and the idea of God, but it really doesn't surprise me that Creationism is the pre-eminent religious belief. Technically, we have a scientific creationism theory, The Big Bang. Technically. if you view God, not from the standpoint of any religion, but as the Creator who sets the laws that are constant, then the Universe itself and it's functions are God and those laws. The idea that something was created from basically nothing and that there is a force controlling not our will, be the world that we perceive around us is shockingly accurate, and the Universe is wonderful enough that I can understand how people would marvel at the idea that there it was sentient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 In that regard, what he said was that us modern humans, and everything else on the evolution tree is seperate as God created us specially. Basically, we can believe in evolution, just keep us linked to God and not other beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Valid response (sarcasm), but take into consideration I'm on my phone and i don't want to perfect my posts..I do know the difference, you're = you are, and blah blah blah...don't try dodging what I said with this useless post.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleman26 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 But he's just a fundamentalist, and without talking in absolutes, fundamentalists are almost always borderline insane. I truly believe there are villages overseas that think we're all part of the Westboro Baptist Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Yes, as far as I know, things are created and why should the universe be any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sedin's 6th Sense Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I don't have to take anything into consideration since i have no way of knowing whether you are only a terrible speller and a hypocrite on a phone or whether you're a terrible speller and a hypocrite on another electronic device. Perhaps you do know the difference, perhaps you don't. Recent communications would suggest you don't. I'm not dodging your post, i'm dismissing it. Taking advice about not being a douche or perfection or being a baby from someone who can't spell properly, uses sarcasm unnecessarily, and chooses an expression such as "blah, blah, blah" isn't someone that I tend to take seriously enough to take advice from, let alone acknowledge asinine advice from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sedin's 6th Sense Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Based on what evidence? Again, what empirical evidence are you privy to that the universe was created by a intelligent designer, to which i am denied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Re-read my first post in this thread which I posted 20 minutes ago and try mixing and matching what message I tried to get across ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sedin's 6th Sense Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Read post #288 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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