Satan's Evil Twin Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 This thread last night, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monty Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Oh wait, I don't give a crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Oh wait, I don't give a crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Then why did you post something in bad taste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 What a productive thread. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 You don't understand - I don't care about what the likes of you think. I still care about posting my views when it suits me. By the way, how's the new property? Housing lots of poor? Giving away your possessions? Living the life of Christ? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 You said science can prove religion but it can't prove god. If science can prove religion then it can disprove it as well. The problem is whenever it does you get some hooey about how some parts of the bible should be taken literally and others shouldn't. What's next, you're going to tell me Noah's tale was a local flood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Okay this works. I can agree with you that if God is extraordinary, this universe is extraordinary. Normally, an Atheist would declare that our universe is ordinary - not special at all. (I would even go further and declare humanity is extraordinary too by your logic, since we do not find sentient life anywhere else in the universe).. Is humanity extraordinary to you? Then my next question to you is, how do you embrace the origins and existence of this extraordinary universe? For an extraordinary universe to exist, it would require some sort of extraordinary explanation (according to you)? As for evidences - I do have credible evidence. If your logic on our universe is extraordinary holds up, then this extraordinary universe itself is the biggest credible evidence that points to an extraordinary cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I asserted that religion does not equal God. If that makes any sense to you, then you will see how fruitless this particular discussion discussion is. How can science disprove the fact that people go to church? That service starts at 11:00am? That senior luncheon is at 1pm to follow and prayer meetings are Wednesday at 8pm? That's religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Nothing is 100% though, remember?....so clearly he wasn't, because an implication isn't 100% irrefutable proof, and therefore you cannot believe it either....because it isn't 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Really, that's what you think religion is? Webster disagrees. The fact of the matter is science has disproved religion over and over and christianity has really taken a beating. The problem is you don't fight fair. Whenever a scientific theory disproves a particular part of a holy book we get a new interpretation and what was once a religious fact becomes metaphor. Evolution is a particularly sensitive subject when it comes to this and it has become one of the last bastians of chritian resistance. Many christians still outright deny evolution and even try to have creationism taught in a science class. Others accept evolution but bastardize it to suit their beliefs. You have said yourself that you have your own version of evolution that fits within your religious beliefs but you refuse to share what that is and I think we all know why. The truth of the matter is evolution completely disproves religion that is why so many are clinging to that 1% chance (rounded up) that it is wrong. Science has disproved religion but the religious are too stubborn/stupid/brainwashed to admit it. Evolution is the final nail in the coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 That didn't answer my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 You're right in saying that religious people will try to change the meaning of parts of the Bible when it's disproven (at least some of them anyway). However I disagree with the last paragraph. There is no evidence to disprove a creator. What if God created evolution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckClown Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 There is no evidence to prove there's a creator. In fact the entire universe and everything contained therein has been shown to not need a 'creator'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Is this last part true though? I'm not saying it isn't, but I'd like to know how a theory such as The Big Bang and the subsequent dispersal of elements etc. has been proven to be possible to exist without a "creator".* *By creator I am in no way making reference to an omnipotent entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckClown Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 This is as good a place to start as any. If you want further information about how the universe was able to be created from virtually nothing, i'll be happy to provide a more in-depth link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Your question is irrelevant since there's no irrefutable 100% certain evidence. Remember? ....said the person who doesn't seem to understand the difference between Theory and theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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