Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 All species eventually go extinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 God eventually takes in his loved ones when life ends too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Me - our planet sustains life You - evolution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Me - ? Evolution does not refute the fact that our planet can sustain life. Because our planet can sustain life, it is considered fine tuned. Extraordinary. Unique. What does evolution have to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Me - our planet sustains life You - evolution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Me - ? Evolution does not refute the fact that our planet can sustain life. Because our planet can sustain life, it is considered fine tuned. Extraordinary. Unique. What does evolution have to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 God eventually takes in his loved ones when life ends too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Or sends them to burn for all time because they didn't kiss his ass hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Your argument is that someone designed our Universe planet just so we can live on it. Which is ridiculously egocentric. My argument is that we evolved to fit the conditions of the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Before you said God doesn't exist, yet now you say God "sends them out to burn". So this means you do believe in God yea but at the same time don't? Makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 In fact the universe is approaching max entropy eventually so everything will die. In about a gazillion years though. Though impending death does not refute God's existence or purpose. He is eternal and Christians preach about life after death anyways. It's such a sleight of hand for atheists to argue imminent death = disproves God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Alright let's take you slowly through mental gymnastics. This universe, galaxy, and planet is fine tuned in more than just one way. Our earth is perfect distance from the Sun. The previously mentioned article used the term "habitable zone". How do you evolve that? Our planet has the perfect meteor belt surrounding us that protects us from hundreds of disaster meteors annually. How do you evolve that? Our universe is not expanding or collapsing at life inhibiting rates, at which is more math than you can even fathom. How do you evolve that? If we can seriously evolve from those things, then every planet should have life. The fact that life is even permittable in this galaxy, in this universe alone is indication that it has been carefully fine tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 That article just puts more weight on the fact that our planet is extraordinary and fine tuned. The upshot is that scientists might not need to pin their hopes for alien lifeon a planet like Earth, whose circular orbit keeps it in the middle of the habitable zone all the time. But we aren't. So my argument stands as our planet and galaxy is fine tuned while your argument banks on the condition of everyone's death. Need I say more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Way to ignore the bulk of that one. The world's climate is forever changing and it will determine the length of our existence. God doesn't appear to be stopping it on our behalf. Are you going to answer my question about Noah or is that Evangelical cryptonite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Way to ignore the bulk of that one. The world's climate is forever changing and it will determine the length of our existence. God doesn't appear to be stopping it on our behalf. Are you going to answer my question about Noah or is that Evangelical cryptonite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 The universe is approaching max entropy in which the universe will die. This does not refute God. I don't know what you're logical premise is. Perhaps its "why would a loving God create something that will die?" If so, then physical creation itself is not meant to be eternal, only God is. The other only thing that is eternal is the soul.. life after death. Something you folks probably wish not to talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Sorry, but that's not the topic of discussion at the moment, this is: ...if anyone can answer each paragraph/question listed in that quote with a reasonable answer, I will say atheists are the supreme beings from us religious fools. Don't want some bs links, 2 page answers, just something reasonable. Challenge is on the table - we're in the drivers seat at the moment and cruising this topic of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Before you said God doesn't exist, yet now you say God "sends them out to burn". So this means you do believe in God yea but at the same time don't? Makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 When did I say Jesus = God? I'm not even Christian, just a God believer in general, you know, the one and only who created everything... And your late, cause we're - unfortunately for you - talking about how God has created an impossible circumstance suitable for life and existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Without people on earth for god to toy with and praise him why would it continue to exist? Maybe he'll play farmville with the animals for a while but what then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Can we all agree to ignore this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Who the hell is talking about the universe? I am talking about a world supposedly fined tuned for our existence that will become uninhabitable by humans in a very short time. Sweet design Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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