dajusta Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Oh wow. I said that because that's what YOU believe. Oh look, by your logic this means you believe in evolution. Again, you misunderstand cause and effect. The sun is not the perfect distance away from the Earth so Humans can flourish. Humans have flourished because of the distance of the sun. If the Earth were closer are further and life developed on it, it would be completely different. And they could say that the Earth is the perfect distance for them to develop, therefore a cosmic being must have put it in that specific position for them. Same argument goes for the asteroid belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Holy crap, whoosh.... I'm going to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 If the Earth were closer are further and life developed on it, it would be completely different. And they could say that the Earth is the perfect distance for them to develop, therefore a cosmic being must have put it in that specific position for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Holy crap, whoosh.... I'm going to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 There is a cosmological constant that is at such a fine degree that any bigger would cause the universe to either expand or collapse so much that solar systems would not survive. You wanna talk just planetary scale? Alright, how come there's no life on Mars? Shouldn't life have existed on Mars? Evolution right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I can't tell you because we don't know how abiogenesis works. However because we don't know we shouldn't just accept the simplest answer that God dun' it. Scientists are working on researching it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 He mysteriously left lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Why isn't there life on Mars? A little bit farther from the sun.. has ice caps.. looks to be the right size planet.. definitely looks like Earth to be honest.. Your argument just collapsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Never said Earth is the only fine tuned planet. There are other planets with life on it - my personal say - just that these rare places have been fine tuned for existence otherwise every planet we see would have existence; not the case though. Can't explain why some planets have life whereas others don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 There's about 3 kajillion planets that fall within the habitable zone so I don't really see what you're going for there. Furthermore, it's never been tested that parameter changes will increase/decrease chances of life forming. You change one parameter and others will change with it. There have been models formed that showed that even with 100 fold changes in a parameter, stars still formed. To claim one way or the other is just hypothesizing. You don't really know, nor does whomever you got this info from, it's an argument based on guessing. We don't know whether the Earth is the only planet with life on it as well. Just as likely as it was to have life form here, it is equally as likely it could have formed somewhere else. Just that wouldn't make us unique anymore, but rare. It's also odd that one would say that the universe is fine-tuned for life, when 99.999999999999999999% of the universe is "fine-tuned" for just the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Mars is a planet that is possibly most capable of sustaining life, but does not. It is a widely accepted notion in science that our planet is a rare and unique planet. There is some disagreement, but those scientists have faith in finding one eventually. BTW this is not to mention sentient life - that's a whole different discussion. The fact that we haven't found life is a very safe hypothesis and lends credence to the fact that this galaxy is fine tuned. And on the asteroid belt, it's a gravitational relationship between Jupiter and the asteroids that protect the Merucy, Venus, Earth and Mars from not being subject to destructive asteroids. Something infinitismally rare. The universe is fine tuned for life. Any different and it could have not supported galaxies. It's the cosmological constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Before you said God doesn't exist, yet now you say God "sends them out to burn". So this means you do believe in God yea but at the same time don't? Makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 So you have faith in atheism. Say it. --- Faith is not foolish. You can have faith in atheism and it's fine. As long as you atheists and agnostics finally give up the accusation that faith is dumb. Faith in Christianity isn't blind. Just as faith in atheism isn't blind either. There are credible evidences towards what we believe in. I've considered yours. Now consider mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Rational arguments to a person holding a religious conviction will not change the neurotic response of a person Sigmund Freud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Mars is a planet that is possibly most capable of sustaining life, but does not. It is a widely accepted notion in science that our planet is a rare and unique planet. There is some disagreement, but those scientists have faith in finding one eventually. BTW this is not to mention sentient life - that's a whole different discussion. The fact that we haven't found life is a very safe hypothesis and lends credence to the fact that this galaxy is fine tuned. And on the asteroid belt, it's a gravitational relationship between Jupiter and the asteroids that protect the Merucy, Venus, Earth and Mars from not being subject to destructive asteroids. Something infinitismally rare. The universe is fine tuned for life. Any different and it could have not supported galaxies. It's the cosmological constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gumballthechewy Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Doesn't anybody find it interesting that as humanity, as a whole, gets smarter belief in religion wanes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Philosophy. That was a good waste of a semester. The funny difference between this and god is: I see the girl I smell the girl I touch the girl. That's three more things proving her existence than god ever has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I walk over and smack him and say: you saw that and felt that now prove to me that I got up and smacked you. See, I can write stupid things too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyukian Dangle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 But why does their have to be only ONE God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 So if religion is not provable by wordly sciences, then why is atheism becoming a religion regardless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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