the pope is the head of the catholic church , who is the head of your church ? and has this person ever been a woman ?
I am referring to the fact that all the big religions treat women as second class citizens and stop them from holding positions of authority .
islam and judaism actually persecute women with their religious police and modesty patrols .
can you tell me why this is so ?
For some years the church was without pastor. There have been times the pastor has been male, and for some other years it has been female.
See where you are going with this, some sort of discrimination due to gender. And it does exist and I am not ashamed of it.
Throughout the ages, male and female have common differences. Males tend to be task driven and more head knowledge. Females tend to be nurturing and higher on the emotional quotient. This kind of truth is prevalent even today.
This is going to be kind of hard to explain, so work with me here. Christian life and church structure are supposed to be correlated with each other. The family unit, as depicted in Genesis of Husband, Wife, and God, is suppose to be the structure of the healthy church. Both husband and wife work together to take care of creation, and by obeying God, they grow closer to him.
Due to the kind of gifts we are given by our predisposed gender, our 'roles' in family and church are clearly defined. Men are to lead spiritually and to love their wives, and wives are suppose to listen to husbands (not using the negative word "submit") and to nurture children.
You may disagree and label it as a method of control, arrogant hypocrisy, and even lunacy, but what I see is very different. I see gender as something intentional. I see gender as something to be embraced. It is possible to have a holistic and healthy church where people take up their roles.
By no means do I condone beating your wife, showing disrespect to your wife, exercising abusive authority on your wife... all this is extremely counter cultural to the healthy family unit.
For women out there who believe it's absolutely arrogant to have males as the "head" of the household.. let me ask you one question. If your husband is perfect, if your husband loves you, if your husband would do anything for you, why wouldn't
you make him the head of the household?
can you please explain why hindu's treat women in this way
A girl died in Nepal's far-west after being buried under a landslide in a cow-shed, where she had been confined while menstruating, local media reported Thursday.
In the western districts of the country, girls are confined to sheds during menstruation, in a local tradition called chaupadi. They are forbidden to visit temples or enter the house during their period and are made to sleep in the cow-sheds.
Kumari Basnet, 16, was killed in a remote village in Jajarkot district on Monday night, when the shed was buried under a landslide, The Kathmandu Post daily reported.
Women are considered impure during menstruation in the Hindu tradition
I read the article a few days ago. It's a tragic thing. That one is particular due to cultural differences - at which is a totally different discussion.
I can't speak for them, but you have to understand their culture and customs before you criticize. To them, I bet a westerner looks awfully stupid fighting in a hockey game.
Because religious people are the world's best cherry-pickers. What they can't reconcile in their contradictory and hypocritical ancient texts, they dismiss as poetry and prose and other literary devices that requires the very mental gymnastics that you're so adept at, in order to not cause the whole kit n' kaboodle from being thrown in the garbage at first glance.
The ones that adhere to creation as literal since it's quite genuinely put forth in the Bible are at least courageous in their convictions that this is the way it was meant to be asserted by those that wrote the Bible. Cherry-pickers such as yourself deny it for the cover "but that's not what they meant".
You can't have it both ways, because then all religions past and present, practiced or extinct could play that game and be just as credible and just as valid.
Religion manipulates itself and others.
It puts forth the argument for a multi-verse.....not a 'belief' in one.
I already explained to you that the Bible has various genres in which ancient scholars and textual critics determine how it should be read. Genesis 1+2 are EXTREMELY poetic. They are just LEAKING with poetry that only the most uninformed skeptic wouldn't know.
You already know all this. By stating these same arguments over and over again show how backed you are in an illogical corner.
Edited by dajusta, 20 September 2012 - 04:27 PM.