dajusta Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I sure feel the love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I don't believe I singled you out specifically. Way to uncomprehendingly internalize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 your argument makes no sense at all... just because you want something, doesnt mean thats the way it is.. yes, it would be fantastic if we could live forever and remember everything we did. but just because that gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside doesnt mean it's the way things are. The ONLY reason to think something like that happens is because some 2000 year old book told you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I said I think there has to be more to life. That doesn't mean there is, nor am I claiming that I know. I just think it makes more sense for there to be more to life than what we are currently living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-The-Great Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 except we KNOW someone is going to win the stanley cup every year (lockout not included).. you HOPE you're gonna live forever.. there's a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 oh, you have a friend who feels xxxxxx and yyyyyy well, that changes everything! I can tell you that I know there is no "meaning" to life.. life is what you make it. Thats it. And I sleep like a baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 But why do something if you won't remember doing it? I'm not saying you shouldn't cherish every moment of life (because I like how you enjoy life) but wouldn't it make more sense if you could remember all the great things you did with your life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 your argument makes no sense at all... just because you want something, doesnt mean thats the way it is.. yes, it would be fantastic if we could live forever and remember everything we did. but just because that gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside doesnt mean it's the way things are. The ONLY reason to think something like that happens is because some 2000 year old book told you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-The-Great Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Alright, what is your meaning to life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Whatever. You live in a country with freedom. That's freedom of speech. I don't condone it, but you choose to live here. When you're reading to keep discussing about one particular topic, I'm ready. Stop changing the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 except we KNOW someone is going to win the stanley cup every year (lockout not included).. you HOPE you're gonna live forever.. there's a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I already answered that.. Life is what you make it. There is no "grand scheme" or plan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 This was never really a question I needed answering as the evidence was always evident. Why do animals not just roll over and die without the belief of a creater. I have never heard of any animals finding Jesus except for maybe that one jackass. We are simply animals, living to survive and procreate. We are also entirely subject to natural selection. When we can find infallible evidence of genetic similarities between man and mammal and observe the way they live it is not difficult to see the connection. In fact it's completely obvious, ask Diane Fossy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajusta Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I believe they have every right to do what they do, despicable as they are. You seem to think people don't like Christianity because it's irritating when they try to convert you. Not the case. I posted that showing you that people have deeper problems with religion. But you don't like that and claim I'm trying to change the subject. Perhaps you should take a page out of your own book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 It's a good hope. Not a blind hope - mind you. There are all sorts of evidences to it. Moralistic, philosophical, archaeological, and scriptural. Okay let me put it this way.. the person who rejects absolute meaning to life removes the essence of what it means to be human. Why do we behave "good'? Is it due to sociobiological reasons we do so? So if you don't gain anything, it isn't worth doing? Is it ever good to be selfless rather than selfish? How do you know what is morally "wrong" and what is morally "right"? How do you condemn what is happening right now in Lybia? Who is to say it's wrong? For the atheist to embrace cultural societal laws as "moralistic", then wouldn't you say a Muslim who embraces Jihadist morals is then justified in retaliating over the US film? It's moral relativity at this point. You cannot live in a world without objective morals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 What do I gain for your salvation? It is not a scam, in which you should watch how condescending you are, because if said to a Libyan you might have just caused another American citizen to die. If its a scam to tell the truth, then I'm sorry for being honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Not really. I do something because I want to do it, and can't do it when I'm rotting in the ground. I should enjoy myself now while I can. Why would you do something if this life is just temporary and you're going to move onto another life anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Well you certainly implied it by quoting me. Quoting someone usually indicates you are talking to that person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I never said that what I believe is "the way it is". I don't know what happens after death, and I'm not claiming to know. I don't take everything in the Bible literally. But I do agree with the concept of an afterlife because I think it makes more sense than no afterlife at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevlach Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Yes you can. Morals are completely subjective. The morals from two thousand years ago are different from the morals of today. The only difference is non religious people have their own moral compass, while religious people have a strict set of morals they take from a book. But even then, they're still picking and choosing. Most people in modern society don't believe that someone who divorces their spouse and marries again should be put to death. But that is the punishment prescribed in the bible. The bible says a woman who isn't a virgin on her wedding day should be put to death. Most Christians today don't agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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