Your problem, like the other pot-stirrer, who chimes in once a day with his atheism is a religion bullcrap, is that you're trying to assign similarities between the people who make up the label Atheists...which is actually a broad range of non-believers and agnostics and the people who are defined as being religious, or followers of a religion.
That does not make non-belief the same as belief, with regards to the doctrines of the supernatural.
If an atheist is stubborn, like a religious person is stubborn, that doesn't make non-belief the same as belief in the supernatural, and therefore make atheism equal to theism or certain theologies.
Again, it's a complete logic fail on your part. But, if you want to keep talking out of your backside like TOML on this point, please be my guest. Your table for two at the idiotic eatery will be ready shortly. Try the chef's mockery, it's delicious.
You'd probably get through to more people if you weren't such a dick my friend haha.
In anycase I would say your problem is trying to put words in my mouth. My only point is that both groups share similarities. They tend to group by like minded associations and common beliefs (and by beliefs I don't mean a belief in God, I mean naturalism, materialism, secularism, humanism etc).
I never said it made them the same thing, though regardless of whether one believes, lacks a belief, or does not believe they have made a stand with regards to the supernatural.
Again I never was claiming atheism and theism were the same. I never was even talking about atheism and religion (as concepts, I was talking about associations where atheism and theism are a common belief trait within). (There is a difference between atheism, theism, deism and religions...as I've said many times).
You can say I'm making a complete logic fail some more if you'd like. People say lots of things that =\= the truth. Every time today I've read one of your responses to what I write I question whether you bothered to read it at all or whether you just don't like the idea that someone could see similarities between two groups when one of those groups you want to be a distant from as possible.
Of course if you want to say I'm equating atheism and religion or belief one more time I'm sure there's plenty of straw left in the hayfield.
Edited by Nevlach, 25 September 2012 - 03:02 PM.