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#1 aeromotacanucks

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:51 PM

1st thing. if you are not a Brazilian and decide rent a car here I have a question for you.

"are you crazy?"

but letīs go. see what you should see on some places around the country of Embraer...


São Paulo (city):

Thereīs one thing that you must remember when driving on the biggest city in south america. you will never drive above 60kph for more than 30 seconds. the main reason is because thereīs like 14 millions of people and 8 million of them have their own car. so the JAM is normal. a 200km traffic jam is very normal every day. and near holidays you will find yourself inside a VW for like 3 hours without move a single meter. sounds fun? hell yeah! when it rains it get worse. much worse...


Curitiba (city):

people from this are the perfect assholes when driving, they donīt care about you so for them if you crash and die they will ignore you completely. the reason is because the colonies from Europe made this city the most "european" city in south america but they forgot that they live in "corruption republic" and we speak portuguese not french or russian. the weather change fast so donīt be surprise if you have a 0 celsius in the morning and 35 celsius in the afternoon. the laws of nature simply donīt work here...


Maranhão (state):

great! now you decide to see the NASCAR going international. for people on this state the rule "drive with skills" are nothing. really. they simply ignore what you learned when you did your drive lessons. they use both lanes to go in many ways, cross the signals and pedestrian lanes, park where they want (including the middle of the avenue), use the horn every single second and insult everyone for every reason. a car crashed there is so normal that see a car in perfect state is very rare...


Amazonas and Para (state):

just because these states are located in the middle of the jungle it doesnīt mean that they donīt have cars right? yeah. they have...

but someone can PLEASE them them to use the "cars rules" and not the nautical rules? yes because people living on these places think that a car is like a ship or a boat so they use the horn for every single reason, for them they must overtake you use all methods allowed and many lanes. studies from University from British Columbia revealed that 99,9999% of people driving in Manaus and Belem become completely crazy after 1 year driving there because they are soo angry and stressed that the sense of reality simply disapear...



Santa Catarina (state):

if you are Germany, have a Germany father/mother or any relative from Germany thatīs your place in Brazil! the concentration of Germany people living on this state is something around 1000 Germanies per 1100 Brazilians. maybe thatīs why people living there drive thinking they are in Formula-1. maybe if the signs show instructions in Germany language people there start drive like normal people instead drive like Michael Schumacher, Sebastian Vettel or Speed Racer...



Rio de Janeiro (city or state)

the greatest problem of Rio isnīt the favelas (guetos) near Copacabana and Ipanema (ok. it is, but thatīs another problem). the problem starts when a lot of Cariocas decide drive at the same time...

this is because for them 2 particles can be at the same time at the same space and they must move fast because Iīm hurry to go home to do something that I donīt remember! drive in Rio de Janeiro is live drive in a Atomic particle colider. you never know what can happen to you on the next corner but you must go extremely fast to discover! everyone is pushing you to go fast, horning or even insulting you. since you are from another country and doesnīt mean what "caralho" means (ok. means "dick" in Portuguese) you are surprised why people from Rio talk so much and so loudly on streets. if for some reason you understand portuguese I have one thing to say to you: "ignore them or isult them"

"cidade maravilhosa" (wonderful city)? aham. for you on a cab/taxi is gorgeous! try move your ass and drive like a Brazilian. you will discover that the hell is better than drive there...



Porto Alegre (city):

the fact that all people living in this city are angry with Brazil and frequently argue and decide make a movement to create their own coutry and leave the scum from Brasilia (capital of Brazil) out of there isnīt your problem...

the problem is when they drive...

you will find yourself on a city where NOBODY look behind, if they crash on you donīt wait for help because for a good Gaucho "who look behind is gay. a macho must look ONLY ahead!" itīs like drive with a tank behind you and the tank is pushing you to go fast. if you donīt go fast they will find other ways to "persuade" you like horn, hit your car, insult or the "easy way" of use a gun to shoot on your car or on you (they will aim on you ok? be smart!)...

itīs like TEXAS. everything in Porto Alegre is better than everywhere in Brazil. and in Porto Alegre the "easy way" is always achieved by using the biggest gun they can find...



Salvador (city):

the Brazilian Jamaica. everybody is relaxed, so relaxed that they donīt have any rush to go to any place. so the average speed in this city is 40kph and you must be happy if you reach this speed!

the landscape is wonderful but cīmom! sometime you must stop doing nothing and move yourself out of the beach and drive! I donīt think funny stay for 3 hours on a traffic jam with 36 celsius out there!

Salvador must be a perfect city because people living there donīt complain about anything. they park a truck or a bus in front of your house and everything is fine. they cross the red signal and thereīs no problem man! they stop in the middle of the avenue, open then car and start talk with the guy of the next car and in 5 minutes you will find yourself trapped on a traffic jam becaused 4 guys decided drink beer on street!

But everything is fine! welcome to Salvador! the Brazilian Jamaica man!




Foz do Iguaįu (city):

the most international city in Brazil. the reason is because the city conect you to Argentina and Paraguay, itīs the "triple border"...

Brazilians, Argentinians, Uruguaians, Chileans and Paraguaians donīt need a passport to cross the border. just the ID of their countries are enought. but it doensīt mean that you will not have a problem...

if you are not from south or central america check your VISA. Argentina requires VISA from US and European citizens and Brazil require that you must have a Brazilian VISA to cross the border and return to Brazil. if you want go to Argentina and you donīt have an Argentinian VISA the Brazilian Federal Police will arrest you on Brazilian soil!

the Brazilian Federal Police is like the FBI but much less polite, the Argentinian Border Patrol donīt care if you donīt speak or understand spanish and the Paraguayan Police always accept a bride if you have more than 200 US Dollars on cash.

be carefull. DONīT TRY ANY STUPID THING WITH THE BRAZILIAN FEDERAL POLICE! they are very angry and they donīt exitate to shoot on you! donīt try make jokes or anything like that, just drive, cross the border and go to Argentina or Paraguay and return later. if they ask something do what they asked you (they will ask to inspect your car and see your bags)







thats it. ready for "fun"? come here and drive. or at least try. if you survive tell me...


PS: Brazil accept drive licenses from many countries, but you must prove to the autorities that you can read and understand some words in Portuguese before rent a car...



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Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:52 PM

Whoa, relax bud.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:59 PM

I'll keep this in mind on my next trip to Rio. :rolleyes:

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:00 PM

I'll admit it, I didn't read that.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:12 PM

What's my country like?

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:17 PM

Pics or this whole thread didn't happen.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:19 PM

I almost read half of the original post.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:22 PM

I almost read half of the original post.


My favorite part is when the OP said something in Portuguese and then in brackets used Spanish to translate it for us.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:34 PM

I read until you used 1000/1100 as a ratio of Germans to Brazillians. Wondered why you didn't use 10/11. Then stopped reading.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 10:17 PM

Clearly you must ban all vehicles from your country. You are not ready.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 10:20 PM

*crosses out plans to drive through Brazil*

Thanks, man.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 12:15 AM

Edmonton:
Worst drivers in North America.


That is all.
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 01:53 AM

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 03:19 AM

You guys could do what the Greater Toronto region does.. refuse to build any new freeways for decades, sell the only one you have for well below market value, then have the government get in bed with the auto insurance industry, keep interest rates artificially low so houses are built out the ass and dramatically raising the population without building the infrastructure to support it, and traffic is so miserable during commute and non-commute hours you are forced into public transportation (possibly even ridding of your car if you like saving lots of money) or moving elsewhere.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 04:59 AM

Edmonton:
Worst drivers in North America.


That is all.


Allow me to introduce to you Richmond, British Columbia.....
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 05:24 AM

Middle east by far. Stupudity plus extreme speeds plus crazy road rage plus near zero enforcement.

Driving in canada is like driving comatose.
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It is not my intent to get in circular arguments with anybody. The reason i have avoided saying anything specific is because i know you or someone else will attempt to find an alternate explanation to my points which i intern will have to defend. I see no point in getting involved with the circular argument that is already well under way in this thread. I simply intended to voice my opinion on the subject. In the end either you accept the possibility of corruption and conspiracy or you don't.

Also i find your comments to be very childish. Does taking what i say out of context, paraphrasing and misquoting it make you feel good about yourself? Grow up.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 07:15 AM

Should be fun once the Olympics roll around....
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 09:50 AM

But, the women, man. The women.
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:20 AM

This post is AMAZING. A crash course of Brazilian car driving! ;)

Why didn't you get a +1? You deserve more!

Very interesting breakdown of the cities in Brazil. Thanks for your contribution Rodrigo :)
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:24 AM

You guys could do what the Greater Toronto region does.. refuse to build any new freeways for decades, sell the only one you have for well below market value, then have the government get in bed with the auto insurance industry, keep interest rates artificially low so houses are built out the ass and dramatically raising the population without building the infrastructure to support it, and traffic is so miserable during commute and non-commute hours you are forced into public transportation (possibly even ridding of your car if you like saving lots of money) or moving elsewhere.


Considering I've actually lived in Ontario for few extended periods of time, specifically in Mississauga, and go to Toronto more than a few times, you are honestly exaggerating. They have a couple of freeways, the 401, the 407, among other things. Traffic isn't really THAT miserable. Admittedly, practically the whole province requires a car - walking and/or taking the transit is inconvenient.

Also, interest rates have nothing to do with population growth.
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:35 AM

Considering I've actually lived in Ontario for few extended periods of time, specifically in Mississauga, and go to Toronto more than a few times, you are honestly exaggerating. They have a couple of freeways, the 401, the 407, among other things. Traffic isn't really THAT miserable. Admittedly, practically the whole province requires a car - walking and/or taking the transit is inconvenient.

Also, interest rates have nothing to do with population growth.

Either you're lying or know absolutely nothing about the GTA.. or interest rates.

1) Non commute hours on the 401 between Mississauga and Oshawa are miserable, same goes for the 400, 404, and south end of the 427. 407 is a toll freeway as wide as the 401 so of course there's less traffic, genius. You don't knoe what an exaggeration means nor do you know how traffic is here.

2) Interest rates kept low keeps demand higher, higher interest rates reduces demand... the housing market here is exploding and now even the 410 is getting ridoculous non commute traffic...

I lold at your post.
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 02:08 PM

Either you're lying or know absolutely nothing about the GTA.. or interest rates.

1) Non commute hours on the 401 between Mississauga and Oshawa are miserable, same goes for the 400, 404, and south end of the 427. 407 is a toll freeway as wide as the 401 so of course there's less traffic, genius. You don't knoe what an exaggeration means nor do you know how traffic is here.

2) Interest rates kept low keeps demand higher, higher interest rates reduces demand... the housing market here is exploding and now even the 410 is getting ridoculous non commute traffic...

I lold at your post.


Just because you don't want to pay for the toll doesn't mean that you don't have options. You have options - it's just whether or not you WANT to go that road. There's places in the world where toll laneways are more common (i.e. the US). What goes on in the GTA isn't even that bad - a whole lot of complaining about relatively nothing.

I'll say it again. Interest rates have nothing to do with population growth.

"Hey wifey, let's make a baby".

"Oh noes, we can't - the interest rate is too low".

"Never mind that, let's make a baby anyway and see what happens"

Right. :rolleyes:

Maybe people should start downsizing rather than spending money that they can't actually afford. Buying a home is a luxury, a luxury that not everyone can afford. People assume that a home is a basic need; it is, but if you desire location, it becomes a luxury.

You could always move to the outskirts of Ontario - A LOT of affordable housing there. :rolleyes:

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 03:07 PM

Just because you don't want to pay for the toll doesn't mean that you don't have options. You have options - it's just whether or not you WANT to go that road. There's places in the world where toll laneways are more common (i.e. the US). What goes on in the GTA isn't even that bad - a whole lot of complaining about relatively nothing.

I also have the option to take layover flights from Pearson to the island and avoid traffic, in the same analogy you provide, which is.. outlandish to say the least. I take the ETR, it's a nice alternative, but that doesn't have anything to do with what I asserted about the fact that Ontario, never mind the GTA, has no concept of transportation and is nudging it's populace to a terrible public transportation system. Another proof of this is the highest auto insurance prices in the country. Yet another is despite the boom in houses, and thus tax revenue, there's no major infrastructure being built to mitigate sprawl, which is already terrible and is going to be even further unbearable once people move into this gross and unjustified expansion. What these officials are doing with the tax revenue is anyone's guess, but it's clear what isn't being done.

I'll say it again. Interest rates have nothing to do with population growth.

"Hey wifey, let's make a baby".

"Oh noes, we can't - the interest rate is too low".

"Never mind that, let's make a baby anyway and see what happens"

Right. :rolleyes:

The only thing this shows is that you have absolutely no deductive reasoning whatsoever. Completely devoid of it, or trolling.

Interest rates->housing market->population, meaning interest rates directly affects the housing market, the housing market directly affects the population. Lower interest rates bring a higher population by keeping the housing market up. It's laughable how much you play dumb, or are so.

Maybe people should start downsizing rather than spending money that they can't actually afford. Buying a home is a luxury, a luxury that not everyone can afford. People assume that a home is a basic need; it is, but if you desire location, it becomes a luxury.

I don't disagree with the notion of spending less, consuming less, but coupled with the rest of your post it's asinine.

You could always move to the outskirts of Ontario - A LOT of affordable housing there. :rolleyes:

The government incentivises taking out a mortgage by keeping interest rates low and other nice little gifts.

If government didn't do this, interest rates logically rise, and affordability decreases as lending gets more strict.

I'd explain further but that's more than necessary and your responses aren't all that discussion worthy, I've sadly made a serious response to dumb statements and declarations.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:22 AM

I also have the option to take layover flights from Pearson to the island and avoid traffic, in the same analogy you provide, which is.. outlandish to say the least. I take the ETR, it's a nice alternative, but that doesn't have anything to do with what I asserted about the fact that Ontario, never mind the GTA, has no concept of transportation and is nudging it's populace to a terrible public transportation system. Another proof of this is the highest auto insurance prices in the country. Yet another is despite the boom in houses, and thus tax revenue, there's no major infrastructure being built to mitigate sprawl, which is already terrible and is going to be even further unbearable once people move into this gross and unjustified expansion. What these officials are doing with the tax revenue is anyone's guess, but it's clear what isn't being done.


The only thing this shows is that you have absolutely no deductive reasoning whatsoever. Completely devoid of it, or trolling.

Interest rates->housing market->population, meaning interest rates directly affects the housing market, the housing market directly affects the population. Lower interest rates bring a higher population by keeping the housing market up. It's laughable how much you play dumb, or are so.


I don't disagree with the notion of spending less, consuming less, but coupled with the rest of your post it's asinine.


The government incentivises taking out a mortgage by keeping interest rates low and other nice little gifts.

If government didn't do this, interest rates logically rise, and affordability decreases as lending gets more strict.

I'd explain further but that's more than necessary and your responses aren't all that discussion worthy, I've sadly made a serious response to dumb statements and declarations.

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To be honest, I was wrong to say it "has nothing to do with population control". You're right that it plays a role but I disagree with the part where you say it DIRECTLY leads to population growth.

You do realize that Toronto and suburbs are EXTREMELY big cities right? Vancouver's nice and compact but Toronto is not. There's only so much that you can do to mitigate sprawl. I feel that the GTA has done a decent job of trying to cover its inadequacies. But obviously, we'll never agree here.

I do agree that transit is inconvenient (which was brought up earlier) but this is as a result of Toronto and other surrounding cities being big. It will never be "convenient" the way people need it to be. There's just not enough money.

Ontario people are pretty lazy and rightfully so. The distance to go to places is LONG. Walking is extremely inefficient. This leads to an influx of cars. It's not rocket science. Getting another freeway is a waste of province money. There's health care problems and many more. Again, you have the option of going to a toll freeway which helps generate revenue for the province but instead, you whine about it because you're too cheap to use the tolls.

Ontario is also one of the BIGGEST provinces that offer work. Most companies have their base in Mississauga. I have had several family members work there. It's not JUST interest rates. It doesn't DIRECTLY lead to population growth. I don't the prospect of work has anything to do with population growth, does it? Nope.. it's those low interest rates. It INDIRECTLY encourages population growth, not DIRECTLY.

FYI, I moved over to Ontario not because of "low interest rates".

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:38 AM

Anyway, it seems that the discussion of "low interest rates" is derailing the OP's post. This should go elsewhere.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 03:02 AM

Did not read OP.

But, Asia (Thailand, and China specifically) are the worst I've encountered. Driving in North America is too easy.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 03:22 AM

Middle east by far. Stupudity plus extreme speeds plus crazy road rage plus near zero enforcement.

Driving in canada is like driving comatose.


Agreed, I live there, horrible driving :/
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#28 Aleksandr Pistoletov

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 04:09 AM

To be honest, I was wrong to say it "has nothing to do with population control". You're right that it plays a role but I disagree with the part where you say it DIRECTLY leads to population growth.

You do realize that Toronto and suburbs are EXTREMELY big cities right? Vancouver's nice and compact but Toronto is not. There's only so much that you can do to mitigate sprawl. I feel that the GTA has done a decent job of trying to cover its inadequacies. But obviously, we'll never agree here.

I do agree that transit is inconvenient (which was brought up earlier) but this is as a result of Toronto and other surrounding cities being big. It will never be "convenient" the way people need it to be. There's just not enough money.

Ontario people are pretty lazy and rightfully so. The distance to go to places is LONG. Walking is extremely inefficient. This leads to an influx of cars. It's not rocket science. Getting another freeway is a waste of province money. There's health care problems and many more. Again, you have the option of going to a toll freeway which helps generate revenue for the province but instead, you whine about it because you're too cheap to use the tolls.

Ontario is also one of the BIGGEST provinces that offer work. Most companies have their base in Mississauga. I have had several family members work there. It's not JUST interest rates. It doesn't DIRECTLY lead to population growth. I don't the prospect of work has anything to do with population growth, does it? Nope.. it's those low interest rates. It INDIRECTLY encourages population growth, not DIRECTLY.

FYI, I moved over to Ontario not because of "low interest rates".

Cute how you completely reverse your opinion, then play around with mine ultimately agreeing with me and tell me how terrible mine is. :lol: Comedy gold.

Edited by zaibatsu, 21 August 2012 - 04:10 AM.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:36 AM

Drive in Richmond or any other Asian heavy area?
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 03:48 PM

Cool story bro, you should tell it again sometime.
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