Kesler's Nose Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So I was just on NHL.com checking out the 30in30 on the Wild, looking at how rugged their defence looks at the moment-- and I thought that Ballard might be the solution. He's from Minnesota so it wouldn't be that hard of a transition, not to mention he could quite possibly be on the top pairing alongside Ryan Suter. He's lost his form imo and isn't playing as great as he potentially could on the Canucks. Considering that he's only been getting 3rd pairing minutes.. I personally think he would definitely be interested, the only problem would be that we would lose some depth on D. So my "solution and trade" would obviously have to involve at least one defensemen and quite possibly a center. Taking those things carefully into consideration, my proposal would then be as follows: To Minnesota Keith Ballard, Yann Sauve To Vancouver Matt Cullen, Clayton Stoner, 2nd round draft pick (2013) I think it would be a fresh and positive start for Keith and that he would regain the form he had with Phoenix and Florida. Cap-wise it doesn't hurt us, Cullen makes 3.5 mil and is a FA after this season. Stoner makes around 1 mil, so just around Alberts' salary.. We only take on a couple K in this deal, and we get to solve two problems. (Two birds with one Stoner) lol We get the center depth we desperately need until Kes returns, and also we get a big defensemen with some potential. I know some people had wanted to acquire Jason Arnott (Me, being one of them) but I think Cullen presents a better option, he is also only 35 so he still has a little gas left in the tank. Maybe he can regain some of the form he had when playing with Carolina? He was quite exquisite in their cup run during the "05-06 playoffs, scoring 4g/14a for 18p in 25 games while going plus-2. EDIT: To all Keith Ballard appreciators, I'm not sorry if this post offended you. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topbananas Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Stoner would fin in well in Vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayray2112 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Ballard is staying unless we get a D coming back from the luo trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler's Nose Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 Stoner would fin in well in Vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Good trade.I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 First of all we should keep Ballard, second of all Ballard and Souve wouldn't get that much in return from Minny, third of all Suter and Gilbert will be Minny's first pairing. Yes i know that Stoner is a BC boy but Ballard is a better number 5 dman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler's Nose Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 My team for the NHL 2012/2013 season: Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Booth - Kesler - Versteeg Higgins - Cullen - Hansen Raymond/Malhotra - Lapierre - Kassian Hamhuis - Bieksa Edler - Garrison Stoner/Alberts - Tanev Schneider Ellis Obviously Versteeg would come in the Lu trade along with either Bjustad or Ellerby, we would also sign Dan Ellis to a cheap contract. Did anyone else think it was great that Kris went to honour Ryp with Kevin, Tanner and Darcy? I would also advise that we trade Raymond, but I guess depth always helps... I'm sort of out on the idea of signing Doan as well, it's been too long and personally as a hockey fan-- I'd rather see him finish his career in Phoenix. EDIT: If needed, we could also look into signing someone like Carlo Colaiacovo at around 2.5 mil for extra depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler's Nose Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 First of all we should keep Ballard, second of all Ballard and Souve wouldn't get that much in return from Minny, third of all Suter and Gilbert will be Minny's first pairing. Yes i know that Stoner is a BC boy but Ballard is a better number 5 dman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I'm not against trading Ballard, and Cullen is a good player. But Minnesota is nearly as thin at C as they are at D. I don't really want to give up one of our only potentially NHL-ready D prospects in Sauve either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler's Nose Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 I'm not against trading Ballard, and Cullen is a good player. But Minnesota is nearly as thin at C as they are at D. I don't really want to give up one of our only potentially NHL-ready D prospects in Sauve either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 How can they be thin at center with Koivu, Bouchard (Made a full recovery) Granlund (Who will most likely be tried as the second line center this season) Brodziak (Their bonafide third line center) Powe and Konopka?? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Also the chances of Sauve making our line up any time soon are very, very slim! At least in Minnny he may be able to fit in with the future of their defensive corps, I would also put out there that trading Rodin in his place would be acceptable as well imo. That is only a small part of this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler's Nose Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 Bouchard is oft-injured, and was 25% in the faceoff circle last year, and 39.5% the year before. He has pretty much been converted to full-time winger. Granlund is a great prospect, but he's a 20 year-old who has never played the North American game. Him being ready for a top-6 role in the bigs is far from a sure thing. Brodziak, Powe, and Konopka are great 4th liners, but nowhere near good enough to play in the top-6 of a playoff team. So, yeah - besides Koivu, Cullen is their only solid, top-6 center. And really, even he would be a 3rd liner on most teams. So trading him to get a #3 D-man is just creating one hole to fill another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Booth - Kesler - Versteeg Higgins - Cullen - Hansen Raymond/Malhotra - Lapierre - Kassian Hamhuis - Bieksa Edler - Garrison Stoner/Alberts - Tanev Schneider Ellis I would also advise that we trade Raymond, but I guess depth always helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanuck Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Could we get dumba somehow he'd be a great prospect to have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure fan Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Stoner would fit in well in Vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Not too sure Minny would like the deal. Ballard < Stoner and Cullen Sauve = 2nd Rounder Maybe getting rid of the 2nd would make it a bit more equal for both sides. I still take just Cullen and Stoner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Ballard > Stoner Cullen would be good for the 3rd line center spot but I like having our mobile defense and Ballard and Tanev as a full time pair will be good this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 it would probably work better if we tryed to deal ballard to a team desparate for dmen. i.e. philly. we could probably get more for ballard that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Ballard > Stoner Cullen wouldn't be good for the 3rd line center spot but I like having our mobile defense and Ballard and Tanev as a full time pair will be good this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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