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#121 ConnorFutureGM

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 02:57 AM

the sedins are the only one on that list that make more than 6 million right now. Highly unlikely yak, rnh, eberle, schultz take pay cuts to stay on a team that's been miserable for years

How misserable were the Canucks when they drafted the Sedins?

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 06:03 AM

Nobody can be signed during a lockout. Its called a labour dispute for a reason.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 07:23 AM

Owners: RAWR! Losing money! Have put limits on contracts! Lockout!

Oilers sign player to a 7 year deal.


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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:08 AM

That's a little high in my opinion. The kid will not put up Sedin type numbers now or anytime soon.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 09:48 AM

A little early for this kid to get a contract like that, new CBA forced tamby. If you watch his game he is extremely dynamic, just needs to "smarten up"
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 10:32 AM

sign eberle, RNH, & yakupov and then in 4 years, make some more room for a few stanley cups
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 12:21 PM

sure looks to me like edmonton knows a way to get them



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Posted 23 August 2012 - 12:49 PM

I think some Oiler fans are misunderstanding what many fans (not just Canuck fans are saying) and accusing them of just being jealous. The point many are trying to make is you will end up locking up 5 core players at around 30 million - one of whom may become a decent defenceman and another who is injury prone. It doesn't matter that Hemsky etc will becoming off the books - if the cap goes down in the next CBA (which it likely will) locking up that much money on 5 young kids and trying to contend for a cup with the likes of Peckham, Dubnyk etc will be difficult. And for those Oiler fans who tried to post lineups on here that fit under the cap - they are no where near cup contending lineups IMO.

I for one am looking forward to a competitive team from Alberta cause we all know the Flames will not be the dominant team from Alberta in the next 10 years lol.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 12:56 PM

I think some Oiler fans are misunderstanding what many fans (not just Canuck fans are saying) and accusing them of just being jealous. The point many are trying to make is you will end up locking up 5 core players at around 30 million - one of whom may become a decent defenceman and another who is injury prone. It doesn't matter that Hemsky etc will becoming off the books - if the cap goes down in the next CBA (which it likely will) locking up that much money on 5 young kids and trying to contend for a cup with the likes of Peckham, Dubnyk etc will be difficult. And for those Oiler fans who tried to post lineups on here that fit under the cap - they are no where near cup contending lineups IMO.


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Posted 23 August 2012 - 12:59 PM

A big pay day all round: player, player's agent, player's dentist...great deal for the kid.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 02:54 PM

Answer me this, can he refuse to sign his RFA extension after 3 years?

Also, can he refuse to re-sign with EDM if he chose to sign a 2 year extension, after his 3 year ELC is done?


The answer is the same to both of your questions.

Hall can chose to never play hockey again. But EDM would still hold his rights.

Again, My original point was to correct an oversight made by you in reference to the CBA.

Hall CAN NOT become a UFA at the age of 24 years. Not in this CBA or any proposed CBA. No proposal from the NHLPA or NHL has called for the age of UFA status to be reduced to 24 years of age.

The proposal by the NHL for the new CBA calls for 5 years ELC contracts, 10 years before UFA and 5 year term limits on contracts.

The current CBA requires 3 year ELC, 7 accrued seasons or age of 27 years before attaining UFA status, and no real limit on contract lengths.

Hall does not become UFA at 24 years under any of these proposed or agreed to rules.

You were in a discussion with another poster and used the following 2 arguments for your position:

One: 5 year contracts would not be allowed in next CBA.
Two: Hall would be UFA @ 24 years old.

Your argument is not fact based. You conceded the first, re 5 year contract limit . You should fact check and do the same with this Hall turning UFA @ 24 years thing and move on.

Like I said earlier I recognise your love/ability to debate. I enjoy reading some of what you post. In this case facts don't add up. CBA is clear on these rules.

I only corrected your oversight in the interest of making sure CDC remains credible especially when a member references the CBA. As you know false referencing of the CBA causes a lot of confusion on CDC, particularly with the younger members who repeatedly make false fact based posts because they read them in one post made by a senior member who made a simple mistake. I make mistakes too, its not like I'm calling you out on an oversight or anything. Good Day.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 03:46 PM

The answer is the same to both of your questions.

Hall can chose to never play hockey again. But EDM would still hold his rights.

Again, My original point was to correct an oversight made by you in reference to the CBA.

Hall CAN NOT become a UFA at the age of 24 years. Not in this CBA or any proposed CBA. No proposal from the NHLPA or NHL has called for the age of UFA status to be reduced to 24 years of age.

The proposal by the NHL for the new CBA calls for 5 years ELC contracts, 10 years before UFA and 5 year term limits on contracts.

The current CBA requires 3 year ELC, 7 accrued seasons or age of 27 years before attaining UFA status, and no real limit on contract lengths.

Hall does not become UFA at 24 years under any of these proposed or agreed to rules.

You were in a discussion with another poster and used the following 2 arguments for your position:

One: 5 year contracts would not be allowed in next CBA.
Two: Hall would be UFA @ 24 years old.

Your argument is not fact based. You conceded the first, re 5 year contract limit . You should fact check and do the same with this Hall turning UFA @ 24 years thing and move on.

Like I said earlier I recognise your love/ability to debate. I enjoy reading some of what you post. In this case facts don't add up. CBA is clear on these rules.

I only corrected your oversight in the interest of making sure CDC remains credible especially when a member references the CBA. As you know false referencing of the CBA causes a lot of confusion on CDC, particularly with the younger members who repeatedly make false fact based posts because they read them in one post made by a senior member who made a simple mistake. I make mistakes too, its not like I'm calling you out on an oversight or anything. Good Day.


Fair enough. I went to look at that portion of the CBA again myself as it had been a long time since I had, and I was going from what I thought I remembered. I remembered wrong. Thanks for the clarification about that particular part.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 04:27 PM

I think some Oiler fans are misunderstanding what many fans (not just Canuck fans are saying) and accusing them of just being jealous. The point many are trying to make is you will end up locking up 5 core players at around 30 million - one of whom may become a decent defenceman and another who is injury prone. It doesn't matter that Hemsky etc will becoming off the books - if the cap goes down in the next CBA (which it likely will) locking up that much money on 5 young kids and trying to contend for a cup with the likes of Peckham, Dubnyk etc will be difficult. And for those Oiler fans who tried to post lineups on here that fit under the cap - they are no where near cup contending lineups IMO.

I for one am looking forward to a competitive team from Alberta cause we all know the Flames will not be the dominant team from Alberta in the next 10 years lol.

I think some Oiler fans are misunderstanding what many fans (not just Canuck fans are saying) and accusing them of just being jealous. The point many are trying to make is you will end up locking up 5 core players at around 30 million - one of whom may become a decent defenceman and another who is injury prone. It doesn't matter that Hemsky etc will becoming off the books - if the cap goes down in the next CBA (which it likely will) locking up that much money on 5 young kids and trying to contend for a cup with the likes of Peckham, Dubnyk etc will be difficult. And for those Oiler fans who tried to post lineups on here that fit under the cap - they are no where near cup contending lineups IMO.

I for one am looking forward to a competitive team from Alberta cause we all know the Flames will not be the dominant team from Alberta in the next 10 years lol.

If the cap goes down, it is very likely that players will also take a pay cut of a certain percentage. So it's not like the Oilers will have Hall, Eberle, RNH and Yakupov locked up at 24M and it will be using 50% of the cap space.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 07:36 PM

If the cap goes down, it is very likely that players will also take a pay cut of a certain percentage. So it's not like the Oilers will have Hall, Eberle, RNH and Yakupov locked up at 24M and it will be using 50% of the cap space.


Exactly.. I don't see the Oilers having any trouble locking up all their young guns. Like you said If the cap goes down and it will there will have to be a rollback on all salaries, there's simply no other way to make it work. Its actually a very good timing to lock those guys down IMO.

I think its a very fair deal for both sides. The Oilers lock up one of their studs for the next 8 years and Hall gets to renegotiate another contract while still in the prime of his career and can pursue other options at that time if need be.




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