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#1 Pears

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:16 AM

These two, young, BC Boys are currently RFA's without a new contract yet. So in a hypothetical situation if you had the opportunity to pick one of them, and the GM's of both teams wouldn't match an offer sheet, which one would you take, and how long would you sign him for and how much per year?

In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:18 AM

benn 5.25 per for 4-5 years.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:47 AM

I think Kane is the better player but Benn would be a better fit with the Canucks and I would say 4 years @ $4.5
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 06:21 AM

Benn at 5.5 for 5 years has more leadership qualities than Kane. I like Kane but he seems immature at this point in his career but that said he is still verry young. Benn has captain written all over him and i cant see that in Kane yet.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 07:42 AM

Really tough question.... Can i answer both?!?!
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:24 AM

I would say Benn. Skill wise they are both awesome players, and will likely grow into stars. I choose Benn simply because of the off ice antics - or lack there of.

While I don't believe everything that has been said of Kane, where there's smoke, there's usually fire, and the way the team has been built - that kind of attitude won't fit in (see SOB).

Benn seems quite (possibly due to lack of media coverage) and the fact that he was a late bloom should give him some more humility.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 11:06 AM

that is such a tough call, seeing as how both would look good here. but im going to have to go with benn, he would probably fit better in our line up. id offer him $4.5 for 6 years.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:44 PM

OP, the question should be how much to offer sheet and have a realistic shot at being succesful

A couple of ppl have said $4.5 mill on a long term deal. This is not going to happen. So there is no point discussing this scenario.

Otherwise I say Benn for league minimum. Approx $600 k per year for 15 years.

So a realistic offer that has a chance to succeed would be a heavily front loaded bonus laden contract. AAS would be at least $6+ mill with a first year bonus of $10 million or so.

With DAL struggling financially it might be tough for them to match a guaranteed $20+ million in a calebdar year with a possible lockout season.

When you look at who owns the Stars now and their history with the Canucks they would pbbly match a realistic offer from VAN.

So the only offer sheet that works might be for Kane, therefore I would target him.

6 years 40 million with $13 mill per year the first 2 years out of which $10 mill per year would be signing bonus.

So Kane gets $20 million in one calendar year before he is eligible to be traded according to CBA, lockout or no lockout. WPG might not match that.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:46 PM

Benn but it wouldn't happen

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:11 PM

I think I'd go with Benn too. Kane is great but big centres are a rare find.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 05:20 PM

I haven't looked at it but benn looks bigger than kane on tv, I think benn is better but that's my opinion..
I would rather have been he would be a good fit with kesler
I'd often him 4 years 21 million 4 million the first 2 years than 6.5 million the following 2 years

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 06:12 PM

I rather have Kane. More potential and goes to the dirty areas.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 06:16 PM

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 06:39 PM

Not a question in my mind Benn over Kane. If Benn was 5 mil a year and Kane was 4 I'd still take Benn. Benn is a better and more versatile player who just keeps improving. Kane is...very good. I've got nothing really bad to say about him in terms of the on ice product. Benn quite simply imo is just a better hockey player with way less exposure and way more smarts.

Having said that any team is lucky to have either one of them...on the ice.

Benn at 5 mil for 3 years.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 06:52 PM

Send an offer sheet to Benn at 6.1M for 3 years.

Send Booth, Edler, and 1st from Luongo trade to Winnipeg for Kane.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 07:09 PM

I rather have Kane. More potential and goes to the dirty areas.

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And Benn doesn't?

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 07:11 PM

Send an offer sheet to Benn at 6.1M for 3 years.

Send Booth, Edler, and 1st from Luongo trade to Winnipeg for Kane.

Money!!!!

I don't want to trade Edler but I like your idea.

Sedin - Sedin - Kane
Benn - Kesler - Burrows

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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:23 PM

Benn in a heartbeat. Watched the guy develop with the Rockets first hand. I live in Kelowna and had season tickets for one of the seasons Benn was in Kelowna. He's the next Iginla in my opinion. A tough and skilled leader.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:57 PM

Why do people refer to Kane as a power forward? The guy isn't big at all. A couple guys I know got their picture with Kane in Vancouver not too long ago and if you showed this picture to someone that had no clue about hockey and asked who is the dominant physical specimen here, it would be a complete crap shoot. You know, that's what a power forward is suppose to be after all.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:01 PM

Why do people refer to Kane as a power forward? The guy isn't big at all. A couple guys I know got their picture with Kane in Vancouver not too long ago and if you showed this picture to someone that had no clue about hockey and asked who is the dominant physical specimen here, it would be a complete crap shoot. You know, that's what a power forward is suppose to be after all.

I think what people mean is that he drives to the net like a power forward. But he could be a power forward if he puts on 2 more inches and 25lbs.

In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:59 PM

Check this tilt out. Great fight. I want Benn in Van so bad.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 10:25 PM

Benn anyday

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:19 PM

Let's get them both and then RNH when he goes RFA, and we can have the best line of BC boys ever.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:23 PM

Jamie Benn but i read in THN that he doesnt want to come to canada cause of the media

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:39 PM

Let's get them both and then RNH when he goes RFA, and we can have the best line of BC boys ever.

I like what you're thinking :P

In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:50 PM

I like what you're thinking :P


Yeah! Who needs 1st rounders for the next 12 years anyway?

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 05:22 PM

jamie benn

he his the complete package

i have no interest in kane, he sounds too egotistical and full of himself for my liking

i would send a 10yr/60m his way and just see what happens....although dal would be retarded not too match
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Posted 25 August 2012 - 05:32 PM

Why do people refer to Kane as a power forward? The guy isn't big at all. A couple guys I know got their picture with Kane in Vancouver not too long ago and if you showed this picture to someone that had no clue about hockey and asked who is the dominant physical specimen here, it would be a complete crap shoot. You know, that's what a power forward is suppose to be after all.

6'2 195 isn't really small by any means, plus he still has room to gain weight if he wants to. Plus he plays like a power forward. Drives the net, hits, and fights sometimes.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 01:10 AM

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 12:22 PM

Let's get them both and then RNH when he goes RFA, and we can have the best line of BC boys ever.


Then trade for Weber, Seabrook and Price.

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