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While I don't have a "source" with a link here it is.

I work as a bouncer here in Calgary and we get a few NHL players that come in on a weekly basis. I'm not going to mention his name for his sake so take it or leave it.

I asked him what he has heard about the CBA negotiations and he told me from what he's been told by the team and his agent they are atleast 2 months away from an agreement.

Looks like the beginning of the season is now a 100% write off....

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While i dont beleive that what your saying is legit, I beleive what your saying is true (if that makes any sense)

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I don't care if what u say is true or not. It's all a bunch of bulls!@t to me. All this, " We just want what's fair," crap. Why don't they just tell the truth. They're all greedy and want to screw the other side for everything they can get.

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Your story could be true or made up. I'm not going to judge that at all.

But the information is nothing new. It's kind of obvious at this point. If they really wanted to start the season on time they wouldn't take weeks off between meetings.

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I beleive you. However I also recognize that anything can happen, and what one person says doesn't fully take everything into account (referring to the player)

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One positive to a lock out is that our injured players (Kesler) can get back to 100% before the season starts.

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I don't care if what u say is true or not. It's all a bunch of bulls!@t to me. All this, " We just want what's fair," crap. Why don't they just tell the truth. They're all greedy and want to screw the other side for everything they can get.

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I used to work for the Calgary Flames in the lates 1990s. Best job I ever had!

As for the substance of this bouncer's claim, I highly doubt that the players were the sources.

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I don't get the people so willing to blame the players for wanting large salaries (while of course ignoring the facts that most of us want to get as much money for doing our jobs as we can and that some players have taken "discounts" to stay with particular teams) but not blaming owners for wanting more rewards for themselves, including locking up entry level players on (comparatively) tiny salaries for longer. The players make disgusting amounts of money, no doubt, but just because the owners don't make their individual incomes public doesn't mean they aren't making out like bandits too. And the owners are the ones who keep offering these excessive contracts because it benefits them to have the best or biggest name players. A contract takes two, so blaming only one party if you think the terms are outrageous makes no sense. Plus, it seems from everything I've been reading that the players are willing to make some concessions whereas the owners are not willing to make any, and in fact are demanding players give up everything they earned in the last contract negotiations plus some. I don't know many employees, regardless of salary, that would go for that.

That being said, if people are really mad and frustrated I say we all use our individual voices and band together collectively in the hopes that we will be heard and tell the players and owners alike that we want them to stop fighting over who gets to get even more rich, act like adults by each side agreeing to give a little and meet in the middle in the negotiations and then get to doing their freaking jobs and play hockey. Until then, I say we all forgo buying anything with an NHL logo or player name on it. Money is the only real power we have and if we make it known that a lockout will cost them all maybe they'll actually figure out a way to avoid it.

To the NHL and the players I say: Until you play, I won't pay.

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I don't get the people so willing to blame the players for wanting large salaries (while of course ignoring the facts that most of us want to get as much money for doing our jobs as we can and that some players have taken "discounts" to stay with particular teams) but not blaming owners for wanting more rewards for themselves, including locking up entry level players on (comparatively) tiny salaries for longer. The players make disgusting amounts of money, no doubt, but just because the owners don't make their individual incomes public doesn't mean they aren't making out like bandits too. And the owners are the ones who keep offering these excessive contracts because it benefits them to have the best or biggest name players. A contract takes two, so blaming only one party if you think the terms are outrageous makes no sense. Plus, it seems from everything I've been reading that the players are willing to make some concessions whereas the owners are not willing to make any, and in fact are demanding players give up everything they earned in the last contract negotiations plus some. I don't know many employees, regardless of salary, that would go for that.

That being said, if people are really mad and frustrated I say we all use our individual voices and band together collectively in the hopes that we will be heard and tell the players and owners alike that we want them to stop fighting over who gets to get even more rich, act like adults by each side agreeing to give a little and meet in the middle in the negotiations and then get to doing their freaking jobs and play hockey. Until then, I say we all forgo buying anything with an NHL logo or player name on it. Money is the only real power we have and if we make it known that a lockout will cost them all maybe they'll actually figure out a way to avoid it.

To the NHL and the players I say: Until you play, I won't pay.

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I wrote Ben Kuzma yesterday and said this:

As a fan I have a difficult time hearing the Canucks, Bruins, Flyers, Blackhawks, Montreal and Toronto ownership groups saying, “We believe that we are paying more than we should be.” I think that Canucks would spend more if they could.

If it was coming from Tampa Bay, Nashville, Dallas, Carolina, and Phoenix, it would make sense.

I understand Bettman speaks for the BOG, but to say that this is the opinion of the entire BOG boggles my mind. Further, some of the clubs actions as recent as this week has defied this. Actions do speak louder than words.

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Given the history of all the 'i talked to a guy' threads on cdc, it's now more likely that the season will start on schedule.

Good news, brah!

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Honestly, considering the injuries the Canucks have, and their penchant for peaking in January, a lockout just might be a good thing for us.

Just saying.

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The team owners are crying poverty after bragging about record revenue increases....does that make sense?

Teams like Minny can committ $196M to two players and the owners cry poverty?

The greed from the owners of the rich clubs is going to split the league with the poorer teams expected to suck it up.

The players want to screw any progress that there has been in creating parity in the league. Their proposal is that the rich teams can buy cap space which will result in the richer clubs like the NY Rangers going back to throwing money at all the good players. They can afford to throw money around to buy a 'winner'.

And then there is Gary "Peewee Herman' Bettman who is allowing teams to locate in cities where hockey can't make a go of it. Pheonix can't support a team but Bettman has the league throw money at the problem and runs the league like a socialist fundraising event.

All the adversaries in this are going to have to check their egos if this is going to get resolved in a meaningful way. Right now the league owners are more interested in shutting the league down for two months so that they can save operating costs to pay a large part of what they finally give the players.

If this backfires and the league loses the monster TV contract that they have now because the network considers them an unrealible source to broadcast, all sides will feel the pain long after the signatures are drying.

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3 hours later. Stick to your day job, guy who tries to tell the future...

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