Ossi Vaananen Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Well I think that what you have in Minnesota is normal, I think most states have everyone that's officially running for office on their ballot, from the Greens to the Communists. But my question was really, is Paul even running for office? I didn't think he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Mitt Romney is a dufus. I agree with some of his foreign policy, but his domestic policy could be absolutely disastrous for the Western World. Romney parks millions of dollars offshore in the Cayman Islands. Mitt Romney pays lower taxes then everyday Americans. Romney is a first-class, elitist @$$hole who makes Dick Cheney look like a Saint. Barack Obama will be forced by the end of his 2nd term to come up with a plan to tackle the national debt and the budget deficit. I guess we'll have to wait for Hillary Clinton 2016! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 Mitt Romney is a dufus. I agree with some of his foreign policy, but his domestic policy could be absolutely disastrous for the Western World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 What part of Mitt's foreign policy do you like? The part where he wants to make China American's economic enemy? The part where he wants to go to war with Iran? The part where he has no plan at all for Afghanistan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Time for me to offer some of my valuable opinion. Sorry I haven't been around as much lately to spout it around the forum. I find this thread interesting, while I agree with Zaibatsu on Obama, I disagree with him on Paul. As a foreigner, I only support Paul because his foreign policy would neuter Americans tentacles. As for internal policy, I could give a rat's ass if Americans will be dying by the road from hunger, lack of medical care, and poisoned environment - so long as their military is home and not in the Middle East and other places. Of course I'm not quite that heartless, but I think Paul would be wonderful for the world and disastrous for the US, and they deserve it for the last 60 years' of foreign interventions. Obama. Oh yay, gays can serve openly. Oh wow, some more Americans get healthcare in a system where they charge you hundreds for an aspirin. (Yeah, high medical costs in the US aren't the result of R&D like someone suggested. Americans really are getting screwed royally with a cherry on top. I've said it before and I'll say it again and again - Obama is a social liberal's dream, and that's exactly the platform that keeps him supported. Liberals love gay people and women's rights. Liberals, like conservatives, are being entertained by the political theater while bankers who destroyed the economy are free to enjoy their millions. This election is good cop, bad cop - at the end of the day, both are pigs. Romney is so easy to hate, it's a no brainer that Obama will win. And that's entirely by design. Lesser evil - has everyone forgotten this universal truth? Then he can raid more medical marijuana farms, push around Latin American countries into playing along, and jail black people by the thousands. Someone needs to make the clothes for McDonald's and Applebees" (bonus points for knowing the line). Hey, how's them fighting age males militants that Obama's bombing on a daily basis? That's surely making things better, yeah? Come on guys, intelligent people should be able to see through the facade that is Obama and this whole election. Sure, there are differences between Obama and Bush, and Obama and Romney. And sure, we can point to Obama's policies like some did and say "See, he's not just more of the same, he's trying". Would any Democrat say Bush did not do a single good thing while in office? Bollocks. First term, Bush increased funding to Science and Healthcare. Oh he must be a champion of science. I think what everyone in this thread is missing is that an election is not able to fix the problems in the nation. Even when you get a candidate who wants to, the forces that work against him, from the media to the parties they run for, that winning will never happen. American politics is about managing the people, not about running the country. Right now, liberal winds are strong and Obama is riding them all the way to the second term. Americans need to go Bolshevik on their masters, and Obama belongs in the same dump as Bush, Reagan, Romney, and the rest of the human filth that made its way to the top of the pyramid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Happy? I would argue of course that calling out someone on the basis of their actions as being younger than they are is more mature than name calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdinaryBoy Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I'm going to be honest and say I don't know enough as a Canadian to do the best thing for the USA, but the Republicans seem bent on taking the USA back in time, so I'd vote for Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 I was thinking more about all the blatant lies Paul Ryan told in his convention speech - especiallly the really simple yet glaring ones, like blaming Obama for a failed car plant that actually closed under Bush. What's concerning is that he clearly knew they were lies (he even got in trouble for the exact same car plant line a couple weeks before), he knew the media would pick up on it right away, he knew they were virtually indefensible, yet he told them anyway. Basically every story I saw after his speech focused more on how many lies were in it, rather than anything that would actually help Republicans. It just doesn't make sense from his point of view... so I can think of only 3 possible conclusions. First, he is trying to sabatoge his own party's chances from within, because he doesn't think they can win and he wants a shot at president in the future. Second, he is counting on willful ignorance on behalf of the American people, but I don't see how that would work with anyone but the already-established Republican base. Or third, he thinks Americans are really, reeaaally stupid. I'm betting on the 3rd one. Sounds like a great guy to have as VP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hockeyfan87 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I was thinking more about all the blatant lies Paul Ryan told in his convention speech - especiallly the really simple yet glaring ones, like blaming Obama for a failed car plant that actually closed under Bush. What's concerning is that he clearly knew they were lies (he even got in trouble for the exact same car plant line a couple weeks before), he knew the media would pick up on it right away, he knew they were virtually indefensible, yet he told them anyway. Basically every story I saw after his speech focused more on how many lies were in it, rather than anything that would actually help Republicans. It just doesn't make sense from his point of view... so I can think of only 3 possible conclusions. First, he is trying to sabatoge his own party's chances from within, because he doesn't think they can win and he wants a shot at president in the future. Second, he is counting on willful ignorance on behalf of the American people, but I don't see how that would work with anyone but the already-established Republican base. Or third, he thinks Americans are really, reeaaally stupid. I'm betting on the 3rd one. Sounds like a great guy to have as VP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Do you really want four more years in which half of college graduates cannot find a job, and 1/5 of working aged people cannot find an adequate job. I was thinking more about all the blatant lies Paul Ryan told in his convention speech - especiallly the really simple yet glaring ones, like blaming Obama for a failed car plant that actually closed under Bush. What's concerning is that he clearly knew they were lies (he even got in trouble for the exact same car plant line a couple weeks before), he knew the media would pick up on it right away, he knew they were virtually indefensible, yet he told them anyway. Basically every story I saw after his speech focused more on how many lies were in it, rather than anything that would actually help Republicans. It just doesn't make sense from his point of view... so I can think of only 3 possible conclusions. First, he is trying to sabatoge his own party's chances from within, because he doesn't think they can win and he wants a shot at president in the future. Second, he is counting on willful ignorance on behalf of the American people, but I don't see how that would work with anyone but the already-established Republican base. Or third, he thinks Americans are really, reeaaally stupid. I'm betting on the 3rd one. Sounds like a great guy to have as VP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrawfull Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I was thinking more about all the blatant lies Paul Ryan told in his convention speech - especiallly the really simple yet glaring ones, like blaming Obama for a failed car plant that actually closed under Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Been a while since anyone used Fox as a source on this forum. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 A healthy American economy is great for Canada, never forget that. Canada is the US's largest source of imports. Just imagine how much better things would be back home in Canada if things down there were better. That is why things need to change. The last four years are proof that socialism does not work. I also find it funny at how my fellow Canadians back home think they understand the American political system. Those of us who actually have the right to vote, are very frustrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Been a while since anyone used Fox as a source on this forum. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 A healthy American economy is great for Canada, never forget that. Canada is the US's largest source of imports. Just imagine how much better things would be back home in Canada if things down there were better. That is why things need to change. The last four years are proof that socialism does not work. I also find it funny at how my fellow Canadians back home think they understand the American political system. Those of us who actually have the right to vote, are very frustrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Oh man you just don't stop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyfan87 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Oh man you just don't stop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Yeah he should have said the last 100 years of human history prove socialism doesn't work in it's purest form. Or would you argue Communist Russia, China, Cambodia, etc. worked? Capitalism isn't perfect but I'd take life over indiscriminate death and lack of human rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyfan87 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 What is this, the stupid trifecta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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