mrawfull Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 How can a party be God fearing and at the same time support infanticide? What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 How can a party be God fearing and at the same time support infanticide? What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 “Let us with caution induIge the supposition that moraIity can be maintained without reIigion." -- President Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrels.Gone.Wild Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Clinton nailed it! If only he could run again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Actually, this is a quote in favour of religion. Washington's point, if you read the entire speech, is that we should be very careful in even considering the possibility that morality without religion is possible. And I think history has shown him to be correct in advising caution on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sedin's 6th Sense Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Mother of Lord, the US has gotta change their law to let Bill Clinton run for president again. What a speech! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Do they show these speeches at local theaters? Sounds like there are quite the performances on display. /yay for getting screwed to a lesser degree than if it was the other guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Bubba knocked it out of the park tonight....fantastic speech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donky Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Did Bill just hit on Michelle Obama?!! ahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Actually, this is a quote in favour of religion. Washington's point, if you read the entire speech, is that we should be very careful in even considering the possibility that morality without religion is possible. And I think history has shown him to be correct in advising caution on that front. That said, what I really wanted to say was, as Canucks fans, how do we feel about this being a matchup between Chicago (Obama) and Boston (Romney). I mean, the only way it could be worse is if it was Calgary and Edmonton, am I right? Or maybe Calgary and Toronto (which incidentally is what our leadership here looks like right now, just saying). Seriously, how high up does the anti-Canucks conspiracy go? This sh** oughta been on X-Files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Bill Clinton is a rock star. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Bill Clinton is a rock star. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 ^ good read but your source isn't cited. It contains subtitles and reference to a McCain cabinet, clearly written in 2008. Clinton had his flaws - Glass-Steagall being the biggest. Interesting to note that liberals have no intention of undoing the Glass-Steagall, in as much as investment and commercial banks have the ability to merge deregulation becomes a side effect - something their platform is against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 ^ good read but your source isn't cited. It contains subtitles and reference to a McCain cabinet, clearly written in 2008. Clinton had his flaws - Glass-Steagall being the biggest. Interesting to note that liberals have no intention of undoing the Glass-Steagall, in as much as investment and commercial banks have the ability to merge deregulation becomes a side effect - something their platform is against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 ok... prove to me how "balanced" they are.. let's see some links to several "anti-dem" videos. I agree that there are many times when someone on the right opens their mouth and put their foot into it, but you can't tell me that dems don't do it MANY times. and I'm not looking for a 50-50 split here. But if the split is 70-30... that's rather slanted (especially in politics.) Personally I like to follow "politifact.com" since they rate both sides with the same scale (so even if someone is telling the truth.. they show that it really was the truth.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Wow... no freaking way was that 2/3rds, the proposition failed, should have just dropped it instead of trying 3 more times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Anyone else like Elizabeth Warren's speech? I'd rather listen to her talk for 50 minutes than listen to Clinton hit the notes for his lemmings. Except when she said "this is my fight, this is Obama's fight". That second half is hardly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 For Dems, "Internet freedom" means "vigorously" protecting copyrights Both parties are in denial about the need for copyright and patent reforms. by Timothy B. Lee - Sept 4 2012, 4:15pm PDT INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY 134 Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) and Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) campaigning in Iowa in 2007. Today Obama is president of the United States and Dodd leads the Motion Picture Association of America. Jeremiah Ro Tech policy issues play a prominent role in the Democratic Party's 2012 platform, released this week for the party's national convention in Charlotte, North Carolina. The document touts an active federal role in a wide variety of tech policy issues, from copyright enforcement to the expansion of broadband Internet access. Both major US party platforms endorse "Internet freedom"—but for both parties the phrase comes with important caveats. Last week, the Republicans called for "vigorous enforcement of current laws on all forms of pornography and obscenity," as well as the preservation of the ban on online gambling. The Democrats are silent on pornography and gambling, but they make the case for "vigorous" copyright enforcement efforts. Vigor! "The administration is vigorously protecting US intellectual property," the new Democratic platform declares, through "better enforcement and innovative approaches such as voluntary efforts by all parties to minimize infringement while supporting the free flow of information." That's a reference to things like the "graduated response" system in which ISPs would penalize their users if they were accused of copyright infringement six times. (The White House helped brokered the deal between major ISPs and Hollywood.) Another policy that fits the theme of "vigorous" enforcement (though it isn't named specifically) is Operation In Our Sites. Under that program, the federal government has seized hundreds of allegedly infringing domain names before the site owners had a chance to be heard. President Obama also has his party's backing on the use of trade negotiations as a lever to pressure other countries to adopt American-style copyright and patent laws. While it doesn't mention the controversial ACTA treaty, the Democratic platform promotes the Trans-Pacific Partnershipagreement and praises "free trade" agreements with Panama and Colombia for "protecting labor rights, the environment, and intellectual property." Democrats also take credit for having "reformed the patent system to speed approval of investors’ patents and provide alternatives to wasteful litigation." That's a reference to last year's America Invents Act, which—as we predicted—has not slowed down the surge in patent litigation. The platform contains no mention of the continued problems with the patent system or the need for more substantive reforms. The Republican platform, released last week, was largely silent on patent and copyright issues. These issues are mentioned only in the context of accusing foreign countries—especially China—of failing to protect Americans' copyright and patent rights. Defining freedom The Democrats' stance on these issues is especially frustrating because many advocates of copyright and patent reform hail from the political left. (Copyright reformer Larry Lessig was a strong supporterof the Obama campaign in 2008, for instance). Yet advocates of reforming the copyright and patent systems appear to have had modest impact on either Obama administration policies or on the 2012 Democratic platform. If anything, the Democrats appear to have adopted an even more Hollywood-friendly stance than the Republicans. Some public interest groups have gamely tried to spin the two platforms as a victory for Internet freedom. David Segal of Demand Progress, a group that played a key role in stopping the Stop Online Piracy Act earlier this year, called it a "huge victory for the Internet" that both the Democratic and Republican platforms formally endorse the concept. But specifics speak louder than generalities. Obviously, everyone is happy to endorse "Internet freedom" in the abstract. But the administration's actions over the last three years suggests that it places a premium on currying favor with Hollywood, just as the Republicans' nominal commitment to Internet freedom takes a back seat to conservatives' opposition to pornography and gambling. Or consider net neutrality, where supporters want to use government power to keep the Internet "free" for users, while opponents want to keep the Internet "free" from the application of such power. Both sides use the same words, but they're not talking about the same things. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/09/for-dems-internet-freedom-means-vigorously-protecting-copyrights/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 the administration's actions over the last three years suggests that it places a premium on currying favor with Hollywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Change I can believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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