Columbo Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 As much as the DNC is as full of rhetoric as the RNC, I'd rather that rhetoric be about love and hope rather than fear and anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Anyone else like Elizabeth Warren's speech? I'd rather listen to her talk for 50 minutes than listen to Clinton hit the notes for his lemmings. Except when she said "this is my fight, this is Obama's fight". That second half is hardly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni_14 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 There are many, I found these by searching "Obama" on their channel but there are also many others targeting Dems as a whole. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5KSVBPbAM www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thb-mZmPv70 www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2lXEk6LPDU www.youtube.com/watch?v=toEjMwMdVd4 www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Trh8iwNt8 www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLrn8Bcudp8 But you're missing my point. You don't need it to be 50/50, or any given fraction, for it to be fair. Shows like TYT regularly target things like deception and corruption, and if one side is ten times more deceitful or corrupt than the other, you've got to represent that in the stories and analysis you do. Probably the biggest failure of the mainstream media is to take both sides and say "this guy said this; that guy said that; let's call it even." That doesn't mean you're unbiased; it actually biases you to the side that is in the wrong. The Republicans are on the wrong side of history on so many things, and to try to always be equating everything is a disservice to the public, and the reason why American politics as a whole is shifted so enormously to the right these days. Being unbiased and being perfectly balanced are not the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 She was great. I've admittedly had a crush on her for a couple of years now though. I could listen to her for a very long time as well. Smart and succinct is the only way I could describe her. And I thought Clinton did well in delivering a motivating speech.....which is what is was designed to be for the audience in the building, comprised of mainly confirmed supporters, and for those at home, many who are also supporters of the Dem party....but also for those who haven't made up their minds. If you want to pejoratively call supporters of political party or the face of one or of an ideology, then I suppose that's ok. We're all 'lemmings' then in some form or fashion, aren't we? And by we, I mean you as well. And by hardly true, do you mean there's a little truth to it, or none at all and the suggestion that there's a little truth is unbelievable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 That's a cute straw man to avoid introspectively taking responsibility for being gaga for a politician because of his using celebrity status to articulate speeches you already agree with. Especially on this forum I'd without a doubt refer to Clinton's supporters as lemmings. While I agree most at this point in time with Ron Paul, particularly on economic policy, I certainly haven't fallen in love with him like you guys have with Obama/Clinton. They're just politicians being hired for a job, not the politician version of Blind Date/Love Connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I just read Eva Longoria will speak tonight. This makes me happy... in my pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 3 of those videos go after Obama for not being "progressive" enough. Last time I checked... that equates to "not being on the left." Wouldn't that be the same as Fox going after Bush for not being "conservative" enough? So half of your clips you posted, were biased to the left (out of the 6) which would be a 50/50 split (based only on how many clips you posted.) But if we are to use that as the "norm" for TYT, that means half of the "anti-Obama" clips are critical of him for not being "progressive enough." Which means even more videos are biased to "the left." I do understand the point you are making... that's why I said how I follow "politifact.com" and how they rate things on a scale no matter what side of the isle a person is on. There is almost zero bias on that site (really there is no such thing as being totally unbiased.. everything/everyone will lean a little more left or right.) If the biggest target on the right (Bachmann) says something that is true... they rate it as true, clean and simple. If it's a total farce (the more likely outcome) she gets a "pants on fire" rating. And then based on that, you see it as being unbiased (if it's true... it's true, if it's false... it's false.) There is no "well she should have been more conservative in her view of this" which is what we see from TYT. I do applaud you for posting those links for me. Based on that, I would assume they aren't as biased as Fox, MSNBC, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 That's a cute straw man to avoid introspectively taking responsibility for being gaga for a politician because of his using celebrity status to articulate speeches you already agree with. Especially on this forum I'd without a doubt refer to Clinton's supporters as lemmings. While I agree most at this point in time with Ron Paul, particularly on economic policy, I certainly haven't fallen in love with him like you guys have with Obama/Clinton. They're just politicians being hired for a job, not the politician version of Blind Date/Love Connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 ^ Lol, just ignore Zaibatsu. I welcome the opposing point of view but when most of his comments become incendiary it is difficult to acknowledge his viewpoint as a valuable contribution. Star studded cast tonight for the DNC: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/381501/20120906/dnc-2012.htm Appeal to younger voters perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I wouldn't fall in love with Paul either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 ^ Lol, just ignore Zaibatsu. I welcome the opposing point of view but when most of his comments become incendiary it is difficult to acknowledge his viewpoint as a valuable contribution. Star studded cast tonight for the DNC: http://www.ibtimes.c...06/dnc-2012.htm Appeal to younger voters perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I wouldn't fall in love with any but I'll be cheering on your next baby step epiphany about the Democratic party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Bill Clinton is a rock star. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Good performance by Foo Fighters at the DNC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Lol ya, Foo slayed but DNC delegates do not know how to enjoy a rock show. Grohl was better at Sasquatch anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Oh god, ScarJo is up next. She never struck me as a bright one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Lol ya, Foo slayed but DNC delegates do not know how to enjoy a rock show. Grohl was better at Sasquatch anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Oh god, ScarJo is up next. She never struck me as a bright one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Rep. Clyburn first. Love listening to this man speak. Everything sounds like a Civil Rights era speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeeterHansen Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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