Tearloch7 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I have to say, former RNC chair Michael Steele was excellent on Bill Maher this week. Where was this guy when republicans needed a centrist? I mean this is a guy that can actually speak to liberal social policies without defaulting on his core beliefs of small government. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it has become shameful that social views have tainted the way we view the election. So much has become an issue of rape, of women, of minority groups, affirmative action plans, issues long settled in the 60s and 70s. But somehow these clowns have to rewind the very basic Republican policy on abortion of 1980, which even then acknowledged exceptions in rape and incest. Man if only both parties could ignore the fluff, and join the rest of the world in the 21st century then I'm sure substantive issues like the economy and foreign policy could actually get discussed. Just my tangent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrawfull Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Obama getting exposed in 3... 2... 1... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1EPqTsc28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Mark Levin lost my interest when he decided to act like a nine year old and Mock Obama with that fake whiny tone. Levin was exposed as a child just after 1 minute in. I've heard more maturity than that on Stern; which is too bad because he was bringing up a good point that could have made for a good discussion at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Of course most of the young folks here would say Obama, I doubt very much they pay any taxes. America is the engine that drives the worlds economy. Obama is a sociaist and bad for business plain and simple. What effects the US directly effects Canada. Obama has brought the US to the brink of financial ruin and stolen the next generations financial freedom with his huge spending sprees and record defecits. We are getting closer every day to the tipping point where half the people pay taxes and the other half recieves taxes. Where are you in that equation? No thanks to the commie Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Of course most of the young folks here would say Obama, I doubt very much they pay any taxes. America is the engine that drives the worlds economy. Obama is a sociaist and bad for business plain and simple. What effects the US directly effects Canada. Obama has brought the US to the brink of financial ruin and stolen the next generations financial freedom with his huge spending sprees and record defecits. We are getting closer every day to the tipping point where half the people pay taxes and the other half recieves taxes. Where are you in that equation? No thanks to the commie Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 Of course most of the young folks here would say Obama, I doubt very much they pay any taxes. America is the engine that drives the worlds economy. Obama is a sociaist and bad for business plain and simple. What effects the US directly effects Canada. Obama has brought the US to the brink of financial ruin and stolen the next generations financial freedom with his huge spending sprees and record defecits. We are getting closer every day to the tipping point where half the people pay taxes and the other half recieves taxes. Where are you in that equation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Do not forget civility! I would not critique someone's grammar skills when your use of punctuation is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 You're right on this front but not in the way you think. Vote for Romney and you'll have a country where the poor and middle class pay all the taxes, and the rich and mega-corporations get all the subsidies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M A K A V E L I 96 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Pakistan could be Romney's fallback plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Pakistan could be Romney's fallback plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Donald Trump will likely have something to say about Obama being preferred in Kenya.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Pakistan could be Romney's fallback plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 Poor People DO NOT pay income taxes. Both the US and Canadian Tax system have a progressive tax system based on the ability to pay. Unless a certain tax threshold, you do not pay income taxes. I believe it is around $10,000 for single people in Canada. The amount is higher for married people and for seniors. However, the middle class do pay most of the taxes, simply because they are the biggest group. Rich people, say income over $250,000 a year is a relatively small group of people. Studies have shown that even if taxes are raised for them, the additional revenue raised will do little to solve the debt problem. Rich people do not get subsidies. They may get capital gains, which is taxed differently. As for corporations getting subsidies, not really. They are are allowed to write off expenses and losses as a cost of doing business. So they do get a lot of loopholes they can use. Milt Romney was pillorized for saying 47% do not pay taxes, which is a true statement in regards to income tax. But the 47% do pay sales taxes. But then low income people get gst/Hst rebates in Canada to offset the sales tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Poor People DO NOT pay income taxes. Both the US and Canadian Tax system have a progressive tax system based on the ability to pay. Unless a certain tax threshold, you do not pay income taxes. I believe it is around $10,000 for single people in Canada. The amount is higher for married people and for seniors. However, the middle class do pay most of the taxes, simply because they are the biggest group. Rich people, say income over $250,000 a year is a relatively small group of people. Studies have shown that even if taxes are raised for them, the additional revenue raised will do little to solve the debt problem. Rich people do not get subsidies. They may get capital gains, which is taxed differently. As for corporations getting subsidies, not really. They are are allowed to write off expenses and losses as a cost of doing business. So they do get a lot of loopholes they can use. Milt Romney was pillorized for saying 47% do not pay taxes, which is a true statement in regards to income tax. But the 47% do pay sales taxes. But then low income people get gst/Hst rebates in Canada to offset the sales tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Ha! Pakistan still bitter about the US invading with out telling them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Very poor people don't pay income tax, yes. (I believe the threshold for BC is $11,000 per year, but you have to admit that that's WELL below the poverty line). But they still pay sales tax, which as a proportion of their income is usually much higher than rich people pay. Here they may get GST rebates but Canada is not the States. And then when you get to the middle class, say someone making around $50,000, well then they ARE paying more income tax than Mitt Romney. It's a fact. When you add their income tax and other payroll taxes, plus the sales tax they pay (because a guy making $50,000 is spending a larger chunk of his money than a guy making 5 million), a middle class individual's tax burden is far larger than a person like Romney's. And that's not even under a Romney presidency, the discrepancy would be even worse if he won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Leno asks Obama on NHL lockout. around 3:30 mark http://www.nbc.com/t...-102412/1421882 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I agree .. Steele is like a voice in the wilderness .. when Romney loses, my hope is the Re-thugs either spin back into the "middle" or implode .. personally, I prefer implosion .. the Dem's are too centrist as it is .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Leno asks Obama on NHL lockout. around 3:30 mark http://www.nbc.com/t...-102412/1421882 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Barrack has to be a Blackhawks fan, but even that wouldn't change my vote..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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