CanuckClown Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 For anyone watching Mr. Eastwood make a fool out of himself right now, please note how the whole discussion is about "the" economy. They even have the national debt clock in the background. It's time for people to wake the f@ck up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrels.Gone.Wild Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What was Clint Eastwood thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What did Clint do exactly? Rachel Maddow called it the strangest thing at a convention she'll ever see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrels.Gone.Wild Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What did Clint do exactly? Rachel Maddow called it the strangest thing at a convention she'll ever see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What an absolute bore of a speech by Romney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrels.Gone.Wild Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What an absolute bore of a speech by Romney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What were you expecting from a robot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckClown Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Wow....most of you act like you're above the sideshow, all the while buying into it. Common people. Honestly, isn't it time to wake up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 He was talking to a chair that was supposed to be Obama... I hope to god he was drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamero89 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 80% in favour of Obama. Ugh Why can't you same people realize that Harpers views are nearly identical to Romneys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikiShiz Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Obama FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 How can you not vote for this guy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Evil Twin Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Mitt Romney tells 533 lies in 30 weeks, Steve Benen documents them August 29, 2012 By Fred Clark I’ve written about or linked to a great deal here “chronicling Mitt’s mendacity” — to borrow Steven Benen’s phrase. Mitt Romney says many, many things that are not true. He says this despite being in possession of the correct facts of the matter. Which is to say that Mitt Romney lies. A lot. He lies more than any other national candidate for office in my lifetime. And I was born before the Nixon administration. This is documented. Proven. Validated, verified, demonstrated, catalogued and quantified. Mitt Romney lies. Here are 30 — 30! — of Benen’s weekly “chronicling” posts. These are all backed up and sourced. These are not assertions, interpretations or allegations. These are facts, actual instances. Over the past 30 weeks, Mitt Romney has told lie after lie after lie: I, II, III, IV, V, VI,VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XV, XVI, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XX, XXI, XXII,XXIII, XXIV, XXV, XXVI, XXVII, XXVIII, XXIX, XXX. Click those links. Read the lists. List after list of lie after lie. Hundreds of them — 533, to be exact, although Benen does not make any claim to providing a comprehensive chronicle. This is unprecedented. “We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers,” Romney’s pollster, Neil Newhouse, said. This has produced what James Fallows calls the “post-truth” age — a relentlessly dishonest onslaught of brazen falsehoods with which the media and the political system are struggling to cope. What do you do when every article, every “fact-check,” every arbiter denounces a lie and corrects it, but then a politician just keeps repeating it? It’s remarkable to behold. One of the weirder aspects of this for me is watching this unfold in the politically conservative culture of my evangelical world. The most partisan evangelical conservatives are also those most likely to rant against “relativism” and to trumpet their status as defenders of “absolute truth.” Those same folks will dismiss this post — and all 30 of Benen’s posts above — as mere partisan attacks without ever bothering to examine the 533 factual instances of Mitt’s mendacity, chronicled. That’s the only cognitive defense they have, I guess. Jam fingers in ears and shout la-la-la-you’re-being-partisan! Because, you see, the fact that Mitt Romney said something he knew to be false is apartisan fact. And the fact that he has done this at least 533 times in the past 30 weeks is also partisan. I suppose the other approach for Romney defenders who cannot bear to face the fact of those 533 facts will be to angrily pore over all of Benen’s lists, reading each one with a lawyerly eye. Have at it. Please. Cherry-pick. Spin. Split hairs. Hand-wave away whichever lies you wish as mere misdemeanors and not full-fledged felonies against honesty. But how many of those charges do you think you can get dismissed? 10 percent? 20 percent? Maybe, if you’re that sort of person and you work really hard at it — if you’re willing to get even more pedantic and semantic and technical than even you are usually comfortable with — maybe you could half convince yourself that 50 percent of those lies somehow shouldn’t really count against Romney. That still leaves more than 260 lies. That still leaves Mitt Romney as a convicted liar, 260 times over. And at that point you’ll have to join your friends with their fingers in their ears. But you’ll still know. Because everyone knows. Mitt Romney lies. A lot. That is what he does. That is whohe is. And friend or foe, he does not care if you know it. http://www.patheos.c...documents-them/ This is just getting ridiculous. I wonder if he and Ryan can top 1,000 lies combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 How can you not vote for this guy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Because I vote based on quality of President like when I interview people for a job and want to find out their job-related qualities, whether they look good or are a smooth talker is irrelevant. In fact, hiring someone to do a job based on their ability to be a smooth talker, or by how much swag they have, tends to have bad results. Oh look, there's Obama to prove that point. This is why terrible Presidents like Bush and Obama get elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni_14 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Because I vote based on quality of President like when I interview people for a job and want to find out their job-related qualities, whether they look good or are a smooth talker is irrelevant. In fact, hiring someone to do a job based on their ability to be a smooth talker, or by how much swag they have, tends to have bad results. Oh look, there's Obama to prove that point. This is why terrible Presidents like Bush and Obama get elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Because I vote based on quality of President like when I interview people for a job and want to find out their job-related qualities, whether they look good or are a smooth talker is irrelevant. In fact, hiring someone to do a job based on their ability to be a smooth talker, or by how much swag they have, tends to have bad results. Oh look, there's Obama to prove that point. This is why terrible Presidents like Bush and Obama get elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I'd rather have a smooth speaker that does nothing more than inspire people, rather than a deceitful liar that will silently harm the nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 You prefer someone who inspires people based on empty promises and mostly lies? Hate to break it to you but Obama is a liar too. The fact that Sharpshooter needs to go down the road of counting lies shows how accepted liars are as Presidents. This was a President who, as a Senator, put his weight behind limiting the Executive Branch's scope of authority, especially in cases like AT&T-NSA, but when the prospect of him becoming President became a reality, he sided with Bush and suddenly that excessive authority was a great idea. This was a guy who promised to help balance the budget but added $6 trillion to the deficit in 4 years. This was a guy that had a mandate coupled with his party's overwhelming victory in 2008 to show what "change" he was going to make, and of course, predictably changed nothing. It's hilarious thinking that Obama vs. Romney is anything more than liar vs. liar. Whoever tells the most lies is left for those who politically took sides and feel they must defend their choice, they're both liars, and the US is worse off with either of them. 2000 -- Gore (a mistake I'll admit to) 2004 -- Badnarik 2008 -- Nader 2012 -- Ron Paul or Gary Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Because I vote based on quality of President like when I interview people for a job and want to find out their job-related qualities, whether they look good or are a smooth talker is irrelevant. In fact, hiring someone to do a job based on their ability to be a smooth talker, or by how much swag they have, tends to have bad results. Oh look, there's Obama to prove that point. This is why terrible Presidents like Bush and Obama get elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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