vancanfan Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 The election is not really over, there is a continuing four year campaign to politically neuter Obama. Have you not been listening to the Tea Party crowd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jaimito Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 'If Candidate X wins, I'm moving to Canada' CBC News' chief correspondent, Peter Mansbridge, joins from Toronto to talk the old American election season saying: "If Candidate X wins, I'm moving to Canada." http://video.msnbc.msn.com/melissa-harris-perry/49683805 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 'If Candidate X wins, I'm moving to Canada' CBC News' chief correspondent, Peter Mansbridge, joins from Toronto to talk the old American election season saying: "If Candidate X wins, I'm moving to Canada." http://video.msnbc.m...-perry/49683805 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Eh, that seemed like a pointless discussion, they didn't actually take on the stupid claims made by that lady, just dismissed them, nor did they much address the threat to move to Canada over an election not going a person's way, just another discussion that didn't go any deeper than a South Park episode of caricatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 If these two Republican movers and shakers (Karl Rove and Mary Matalin) are any indication; the GOP will not be getting out of the "demographic cul-de-sac" they are in (great term by Democrat Van Jones BTW debating Matalin). Poor Rove, it is all about changing demographics and math as Nate Silver made clear... again. Karl Rove is still in complete denial as he was on Fox on election night - according to Rove Obama "suppressed the vote" I guess mis-spending billions and not having a clue abut the campaign slipping away will unhinge a person. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hgw65pyvbVU And Mary Matalin??? Truly scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Okay it is now final - President Obama won Florida. The state of Florida has finished its tally, and its 29 electoral votes have been awarded to President Barack Obama. Not that it mattered. The Associated Press reported Obama took 50 percent of the popular vote, compared to 49.1 percent for Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney. About 74,000 votes separated the two. While Florida's count officially closes the book on the 2012 presidential race, Obama did not need to carry the state after already reaching the 270 electoral votes needed to be re-elected. The final count stands at 332 for Obama to 206 for Romney. The president carried eight of the nine "swing states" the campaigns battled for, winning Colorado, Iowa, Ohio, Nevada, New Hampshire, Virginia and Wisconsin along with the Sunshine State. Romney only took North Carolina in addition to the states believed to be solid red. Long lines of people waiting to vote after polling places were scheduled to close, along with late absentee ballots, were blamed for the slowed returns in Florida. All 49 of the other states had been called for one of the candidates by early Wednesday. The large turnout of Floridians on Election Day came despite early voting in the state, which also saw people waiting for hours to make their choice. Gov. Rick Scott cut the number of early voting days from 14 to eight in 2011. Scott had refused to extend voting past Saturday, but polling places in some counties were allowed to stay open or provide and accept absentee ballots. Waits in Miami-Dade reached up to seven hours, according to reports. Florida's 29 electoral votes were the biggest prize among the toss-up states going into Election Day. The state earned a dubious reputation for its role in national politics in 2000, when it and its then-25 electoral votes decided the presidential race for George W. Bush. The final tally showed a Bush with a mere 537 votes more than Al Gore, out of more than 6 million cast. Among other issues were the "butterfly ballots" used in Palm Beach County. The odd format, with candidates listed on both sides, may have caused thousands of to voters to accidentally select the Reform Party's Pat Buchanan instead of Gore. Several news outlets also mistakenly called the state for Gore early into the ballot count before retracting and naming it "too close to call." Lawsuits and a recount ensued with the race ending so close, leaving the result in question for a month. On Dec. 12, 2000, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 5 to 4 to stop the hand recount, effectively awarding the state and the election to Bush. Florida voting has gone smoother in the last two presidential elections. Bush won again in 2004 by about five percent, and Obama turned the state blue in 2008 with 51 percent of the vote. http://www.wsfa.com/story/20033257/florida-called-for-obama-final-electoral-tally-332-206 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Geez Mary .. maybe you should stop sleeping with James Carvell, and take on a boy-toy, because you sure are in need of some kind of stark change .. what a vitriolic cow! .. here's hoping the Re-thugs maintain this attitude .. they will slide into the abyss of history within 20 years .. I am waiting to see Bay Buchanan's response to the electoral drubbing they took .. that will definately be a "popcorn and soda" moment .. thanks for posting that Wet .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I must have had the CNN Florida page on refresh for the last 4 days, but you beat me to it! Just watched the Matlin video, and oh my god; it is official, the republican party is comprised solely of cynical, ignorant, old white people. Obama is the one being divisive? Matlin is the one going on TV doing the smear campaign directly after an election. Obama has only ever done that in which aids the population, how do the rich better represent Joe the plumber when their mandate is to deregulate? Such backwards logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I must have had the CNN Florida page on refresh for the last 4 days, but you beat me to it! Just watched the Matlin video, and oh my god; it is official, the republican party is comprised solely of cynical, ignorant, old white people. Obama is the one being divisive? Matlin is the one going on TV doing the smear campaign directly after an election. Obama has only ever done that in which aids the population, how do the rich better represent Joe the plumber when their mandate is to deregulate? Such backwards logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Someone should break the news to these nut heads, Obama got 62% of the electoral college votes A HUGE margin, he also got nearly 51% of the popular vote A HUGE margin, yet these clowns make the argument that he didn't get as many votes as his first term? So you're complaining that he didn't beat you as badly as the first time, yet he still went balls deep. How exactly is the republican party diverse and represents more of the electorate when the only category they won with a significant margin was white males over 50? I don't like her, but at least Marge Hoover has her head on straight, republicans need to get in the 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 And Mary Matalin??? Truly scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Is she serious? How this woman gained any sort of political power is completely beyond me. I really wish people like her could realize how ignorant and, to put it frankly, stupid they sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 No excuses now or is Obama and his supporters going to continue to blame Bush? Obama continued on with many of Bush's policies. but hey You won right? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key2thecup Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Assange: Reelected Obama a 'wolf in sheep's clothing' WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange sees no reason to celebrate the reelection of US President Barack Obama. The US aggressively pursued and “persecuted” the whistleblower site under a Democratic administration, he explained. “Obama seems to be a nice man, and that is precisely the problem,” the 41-year-old told AFP, speaking from his room in London’s Ecuadorian embassy. “It's better to have a sheep in wolf's clothing than a wolf in sheep's clothing,” he said. “All of the activities against WikiLeaks by the United States have occurred under an Obama administration.” Assange was equally critical of the Republican, saying it “has not been an effective restraining force on government excesses over the last four years.” "There is no reason to believe that will change – in fact, the Republicans will push the administration into ever greater excesses," he added. The WikiLeaks founder sounded hoarse, but refused to comment on his health. Last month, Ecuador said it had requested a meeting with British officials to discuss claims that Assange was losing weight and suffering vision problems. Assange claimed asylum in the embassy in June to escape extradition to Sweden for questioning over sex crimes allegations. He denies the charges, and believes that if extradited he would then be sent to the US, which regards him as an enemy of the state, where he would face prosecution and possibly the death penalty. WikiLeaks angered Washington in 2010 by publishing hundreds of thousands of classified US documents on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as diplomatic cables from US embassies around the world. Washington retaliated by forcing companies to cut off WikiLeaks’ sources of funding. http://rt.com/news/wikileaks-assange-obama-wolf-256/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 The breakdown of how people of religions voted for Romney v. Obama. Report: In his re-election victory, Democrat Barack Obama narrowly defeated Republican Mitt Romney in the national popular vote (50% to 48%)1. Obama’s margin of victory was much smaller than in 2008 when he defeated John McCain by a 53% to 46% margin, and he lost ground among white evangelical Protestants and white Catholics. But the basic religious contours of the 2012 electorate resemble recent elections – traditionally Republican groups such as white evangelicals and weekly churchgoers strongly backed Romney, while traditionally Democratic groups such as black Protestants, Hispanic Catholics, Jews and the religiously unaffiliated backed Obama by large margins. Vote Choice by Religion and Race Religiously unaffiliated voters and Jewish voters were firmly in Obama’s corner in 2012 (70% and 69%, respectively). Compared with 2008, support for Obama ticked downward among both Jews and religiously unaffiliated voters in the exit polls, though these declines appear not to be statistically significant. Both of these groups have long been strongly supportive of Democratic candidates in presidential elections. Black Protestants also voted overwhelmingly for Obama (95%). At the other end of the political spectrum, nearly eight-in-ten white evangelical Protestants voted for Romney (79%), compared with 20% who backed Obama. Romney received as much support from evangelical voters as George W. Bush did in 2004 (79%) and more support from evangelicals than McCain did in 2008 (73%). Mormon voters were also firmly in Romney’s corner; nearly eight-in-ten Mormons (78%) voted for Romney, while 21% voted for Obama. Romney received about the same amount of support from Mormons that Bush received in 2004. (Exit poll data on Mormons was unavailable for 2000 and 2008.) Compared with religiously unaffiliated and Jewish voters on the left and white evangelicals and Mormons on the right, Catholics and white mainline Protestants were more evenly divided. Among white mainline Protestants in the exit poll, 54% voted for Romney, while 44% supported Obama. This is virtually identical to the 2008 election, when 55% of white mainline Protestants voted for McCain and 44% backed Obama. White Catholics, by contrast, swung strongly in the Republican direction relative to 2008. Nearly six-in-ten white Catholics (59%) voted for Romney, up from 52% who voted for McCain in 2008. Three-quarters of Hispanic Catholics voted for Obama, and Catholics as a whole were evenly divided in 2012 (50% voted for Obama, while 48% backed Romney). http://www.pewforum....l-Analysis.aspx In a chart: http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/10/15073187-this-week-in-god?lite There's a fair amount of interesting data here, though the results among Roman Catholic voters are arguably the most electorally significant. In every recent cycle, Catholics have been considered a key swing constituency, particularly throughout Midwest battleground states, and President Obama narrowly won their support, 50% to 48%. It suggests Republicans' efforts to focus on contraception and reproductive rights had limited success, and the Bishops' lobbying largely fell on deaf ears. Also note, while many on the right hoped 2012 would be the year that Jewish voters abandoned Democrats, that didn't come close to happening. Though Obama fared slightly worse among Jewish voters as compared to 2008, he still enjoyed overwhelming support. For the purposes of classification, "Other faiths" became a catch-all for a variety of minority religious traditions -- Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, and others -- which on their own represent a very small percentage of the voting population. Their support for the GOP remains dismal. And continue to keep an eye on the religiously unaffiliated -- one of the fastest growing segments of the faith population -- which includes atheists, agnostics, and theists who choose not to associate with any specific tradition. Their lopsided support for Obama reinforces yet another demographic problem for Republicans in the coming years. As for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), it's not surprising that they would strongly support Mitt Romney -- he was the first Mormon ever to appear on a national ticket -- but there was one curiosity in the results: Romney did slightly worse among Mormon voters this year than George W. Bush did in 2004. The basic conclusion? If the Republicans cannot diversify and attract new support, then the demographic trends point to gathering Democratic strength in upcoming elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dittohead Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 The majority voted and the majority want Obama. You are just only one person like Donald Trump. The beautiful thing about democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 That's great so get on with it. stop blaming other people. The majority need to get moving then. wasting time dragging out cnn clips is pointless what does that solve other than make you feel somehow superior? I'm all for legalizing pot all for aborting as many babies as possible so not a total right winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I can understand the GOP not wanting any path to citizenship for the +/- 12 million "unwashed brown people", who would be instant Democratic Party members .. but they should be encouraging birth control and abortion amongst these "mongrel" minorities or they really will fade into obscurity .. Hard to believe these GOP folks and Libertarian's are not pragmatic enough to get past their "moral" objections to taking a life .. for the most part, they all support the death penalty .. as that Re-thug twaddle Dennis Miller once quipped, "I guess it's all in the timing, huh"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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