RUPERTKBD Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Last year, Romney gave $4,020,772 out of the $13,696,951 he earned last year to charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Tax deductions are granted for charitable contributions. Everyone who pays taxes may be able to deduct their charitable giving. I am a pastor. A lot of people in my church are not rich, but they practice tithing and freewill giving. Giving more than ten percent of your income to charity is a lifestyle. It is about stewardship and giving back. Because it is a lifestlye of generousity, the more money they make the more they give. It is just what they do. For me, the difference between Romney and Obama is that Romney believes in being generous with his own money. Romney gives to charity whereas Obama wants to take it for government social programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Tax deductions are granted for charitable contributions. Everyone who pays taxes may be able to deduct their charitable giving. I am a pastor. A lot of people in my church are not rich, but they practice tithing and freewill giving. Giving more than ten percent of your income to charity is a lifestyle. It is about stewardship and giving back. Because it is a lifestlye of generousity, the more money they make the more they give. It is just what they do. For me, the difference between Romney and Obama is that Romney believes in being generous with his own money. Romney gives to charity whereas Obama wants to take it for government social programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Tax deductions are granted for charitable contributions. Everyone who pays taxes may be able to deduct their charitable giving. I am a pastor. A lot of people in my church are not rich, but they practice tithing and freewill giving. Giving more than ten percent of your income to charity is a lifestyle. It is about stewardship and giving back. Because it is a lifestlye of generousity, the more money they make the more they give. It is just what they do. For me, the difference between Romney and Obama is that Romney believes in being generous with his own money. Romney gives to charity whereas Obama wants to take it for government social programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Romney donates his money to the Mormon church. A church which has a fantastical white castle, believes in magic underwear and the subjugation of women. I don't think Romney charitable for giving to an organization in which he is involved with. That 4 million should absolutely be better used towards social programs especially in a time of recession. I get that you're a pastor and the whole pregnant virgin and talking snake thing works for you, but for the rest of the population that is rational the money could be better used towards their well being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 While you can antagonize the practice of faith, having the freedom to give your money as you see fit is a great example of free speech in this Constitutional Republic. America was not built on government social programs, but the simplicity of living in community that had faith, demonstrated hope, and practiced charity. And those rights, in the pursuit of hapiness, should not be abridged by anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 And I wonder how much of that was written off... ...sure is nice to be part of the 1%... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Everyone is saying Biden needs to come out swinging, but I hope he takes a different approach. Ryan is a workaholic and has studied his arse off in preparation for this debate. He's expecting attacks. If Ryan says anything untruthful, I want Biden to just shrug and say "Look, we can only call them out so many times, I have 2 minutes, I'll let the fact checkers deal with him. This is where WE stand on the issue....". If Ryan doesn't say anything that can be fact checked, then it's just going to be rhetoric and I want Biden to say something like "Now you're just talking nonsense. Listen, this is the issue, and this is how WE will try to solve it." I'm a bit worried Ryan is going to play Biden like a harp. Hopefully substance will win over appearance when America votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 the amount he declared on the tax return is only the ones he reported. he has tons more money stashed away offshore. what he does is one thing, as offensive as it is. the principle that more money should be given to the top 1% at the expense of the middle class and/or debt is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 the amount he declared on the tax return is only the ones he reported. he has tons more money stashed away offshore. what he does is one thing, as offensive as it is. the principle that more money should be given to the top 1% at the expense of the middle class and/or debt is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevlach Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 So what are the MAIN points everyone has against Romney and Ryan as opposed to Obama and Biden? If you had to make a list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Ummm..... the 1% pays about 50% of the taxes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Everyone is saying Biden needs to come out swinging, but I hope he takes a different approach. Ryan is a workaholic and has studied his arse off in preparation for this debate. He's expecting attacks. If Ryan says anything untruthful, I want Biden to just shrug and say "Look, we can only call them out so many times, I have 2 minutes, I'll let the fact checkers deal with him. This is where WE stand on the issue....". If Ryan doesn't say anything that can be fact checked, then it's just going to be rhetoric and I want Biden to say something like "Now you're just talking nonsense. Listen, this is the issue, and this is how WE will try to solve it." I'm a bit worried Ryan is going to play Biden like a harp. Hopefully substance will win over appearance when America votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevlach Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 @SS Exactly this is a debate not a tea party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 @SS Exactly this is a debate not a tea party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Ummm..... the 1% pays about 50% of the taxes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 And if it was 60-70%, like it is in most 1st world countries, this would be worse for the country how? Don't give me that 'job creator' crap either. Sweden has jobs, progressive taxes and social programs. That's an interesting take on the slave trade you have there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Looks like the Thursday night 'session' is starting. Bottoms up TM and they don't make rebuttals any better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I've got all night, yo. The main problem with the constant comparing of tax burdens of different demographics is that they can either include or not include corporate gains, accumulated wealth and the quantity of super rich in any country. The USA has the most billionaires in the world. Their 1% doesn't compare to any other on the planet and that is who we are talking about here. Tax the hell out of the super rich, curb inflation through a progressive central bank policy and reduce my tax burden by 1/3. I won't need any job creators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Ryan getting schooled big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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