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#181 King of the ES

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:34 PM

If Luongo really wants out; enough to ask to be traded, do you think he'd be declaring out loud that he only wants to go to one team? Think about this logically for a second. Don't you think that would hurt his request? I have to think it would but I'd be more than happy to hear reasons as to how that plays into his plan.


You're still not seeing the fact that Luongo holds ALL the power in this standoff.

He determines where he goes, not Mike Gillis. Mike Gillis wanted to send him to Toronto earlier this summer, Louie vetoed it. It's very simple; he wants to go to Florida. Mike Gillis is clearly not happy with what is being offered to him by the Panthers, or else Louie would be long gone.

Honestly, I love what Luongo said today. Good for him. He's really been jerked around by this organization, and now Mike Gillis has been backed into a corner, by his own doing, and Luongo's not going to give him a pass; he wants Florida, he's getting Florida. What the Canucks are given in exchange will be both miniscule and irrelevant to Luongo, who's looking out for him self. And guess what? THIS IS PLAYING OUT EXACTLY AS I SAID IT WOULD. "Oh, there's no rush to trade Luongo, we have an embarrassment of riches in net, Gillis needs to hold on to his asset and get what he can for him, teams will get desperate," etc.

WRONG. Lou said what he did today to both kick Gillis in the ass to get it done, and to remind Gillis who holds the power in this negotiation. We're screwed. Gillis mismanaged this whole ordeal in stunning fashion. Can't wait to see the paltry return that we get back in exchange for one of the most consistent goaltenders in the NHL.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:40 PM

Employee,posters respond to any given post in any manner they so choose.
It is a public forum so get with the program.
If you follow the facts of what transpired since game day of game #5 in LA your 'public demands of being traded' theories are irrelevant.
It was clear Gillis made the decision to usurp Luo and Luo responded in kind.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:42 PM

You're still not seeing the fact that Luongo holds ALL the power in this standoff.

Of course he does. He has the NTC and he's the one willing to waive it. I've never said otherwise.

He determines where he goes, not Mike Gillis. Mike Gillis wanted to send him to Toronto earlier this summer, Louie vetoed it. It's very simple; he wants to go to Florida. Mike Gillis is clearly not happy with what is being offered to him by the Panthers, or else Louie would be long gone.

The only thing is that he doesn't have to trade Luongo if he doesn't want to. Luongo hold all the cards in where he goes but what if Gillis simply says no. IIRC doesn't Luongo contract have 2 clauses in it? One where Luongo can request a trade and one where the Canucks can ask him to be traded?

Honestly, I love what Luongo said today. Good for him. He's really been jerked around by this organization, and now Mike Gillis has been backed into a corner, by his own doing, and Luongo's not going to give him a pass; he wants Florida, he's getting Florida. What the Canucks are given in exchange will be both miniscule and irrelevant to Luongo, who's looking out for him self. And guess what? THIS IS PLAYING OUT EXACTLY AS I SAID IT WOULD. "Oh, there's no rush to trade Luongo, we have an embarrassment of riches in net, Gillis needs to hold on to his asset and get what he can for him, teams will get desperate," etc.


While you're reading too much into it I agree that I like what Luongo said today but didn't we already know he wanted Florida?

WRONG. Lou said what he did today to both kick Gillis in the ass to get it done, and to remind Gillis who holds the power in this negotiation. We're screwed. Gillis mismanaged this whole ordeal in stunning fashion. Can't wait to see the paltry return that we get back in exchange for one of the most consistent goaltenders in the NHL.

So what if Gillis says no and doesn't trade Luongo? What if he says nope and says the two can fight it out for the starting role?

Also I'm a big fan of Luongo; you can go back to the start of the season when I would argue with Nuck Nit all the time when he would consistently bad mouth Luongo, and that last statement about consistency is moderately laughable.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:43 PM

Employee,posters respond to any given post in any manner they so choose.
It is a public forum so get with the program.
If you follow the facts of what transpired since game day of game #5 in LA your 'public demands of being traded' theories are irrelevant.
It was clear Gillis made the decision to usurp Luo and Luo responded in kind.

You're not making any sense. You keep saying the same thing over and over and over again. It's getting old Tom.

Also I don't nor did I ever have any theories about public demands for a trade. You need to get that part straight Nit.

Edited by EmployeeoftheMonth, 04 September 2012 - 08:45 PM.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:43 PM

The Sedins are not rear guards,Gump.
It is not even known if Garrison secures a spot on the first (PP) unit.
Your position was irrelevant,Gump,as Garrison will likely play all season with Edler,not the twins.

Edited by nuck nit, 05 September 2012 - 04:13 AM.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:46 PM

You're not making any sense. You keep saying the same thing over and over and over again. It's getting old Tom.

Also I don't nor did I ever have any theories about public demands for a trade. You need to get that part straight Nit.


Whatever.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:49 PM

Whatever.

exactly.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:51 PM

So what if Gillis says no and doesn't trade Luongo? What if he says nope and says the two can fight it out for the starting role?


And exactly how does that benefit the Canucks?

You're going to bring this guy back into that locker room, where he's now said multiple times that it's time to move on, and that he wants to be somewhere else? And how does that make Schneider feel? I'm sure that he wasn't expecting Luongo to be brought back when he signed that contract. Please, please don't tell me that "they're friends". That's stupid. This is business. Schneider would not be happy, and (like any other starting goaltender in this city) he'll be killed by the fans and the media whenever he doesn't shine.

In addition - maybe most importantly - Roberto Luongo would suddenly become the most popular Canuck in town. He'd gain a sort of cult following of people who believe that he, and not Schneider, should be the starter. It'd be Team Luo vs. Team Schneider. It'd be the poll question every single day on the Team1040. It'd be the BIGGEST distraction this team's had since Bure's holdout.

Really, Gillis has no choice. Not trading him to spite him DOES NOT BENEFIT THE CANUCKS.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:55 PM

And exactly how does that benefit the Canucks?

You're going to bring this guy back into that locker room, where he's now said multiple times that it's time to move on, and that he wants to be somewhere else? And how does that make Schneider feel? I'm sure that he wasn't expecting Luongo to be brought back when he signed that contract. Please, please don't tell me that "they're friends". That's stupid. This is business. Schneider would not be happy, and (like any other starting goaltender in this city) he'll be killed by the fans and the media whenever he doesn't shine.

In addition - maybe most importantly - Roberto Luongo would suddenly become the most popular Canuck in town. He'd gain a sort of cult following of people who believe that he, and not Schneider, should be the starter. It'd be Team Luo vs. Team Schneider. It'd be the poll question every single day on the Team1040. It'd be the BIGGEST distraction this team's had since Bure's holdout.

Really, Gillis has no choice. Not trading him to spite him DOES NOT BENEFIT THE CANUCKS.


How is the part in bold any different than last season but in reverse? It would be the same perceived distraction in the media as last season.

Also Gillis does have a choice and it the one I set out. I'm not in any way saying that's what I want to happen. Luongo will and should be traded at this point.I firmly believe that for all the reasons you've set out.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 08:57 PM

Can't wait to see the paltry return that we get back in exchange...


Really? Like the less we get back, the more right you are? Like the Canucks are worse, but you get to tell everybody 'I told you so'?
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:01 PM

Gillis has had months to trade Luongo.
It is September and what a great dressing room atmosphere Gillis will have created if the trade does not go down within weeks.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:03 PM

Really? Like the less we get back, the more right you are? Like the Canucks are worse, but you get to tell everybody 'I told you so'?


That's the thing with some people and it's sad. They want to see Gillis fail so badly that they want to see the Canucks fail and will be pissed of if they succeed. There are some people now who trashed Luongo hard but now sing his praises so that they can "stick it" to Gillis. Whenever this is brought up however they always use the excuse that they want to see the team fail now so that it will succeed later; which essentially is a pretty big line of bull.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:04 PM

How is the part in bold any different than last season but in reverse? It would be the same perceived distraction in the media as last season.


It's different for many reasons:

-Luongo explicitly LOST the starting job to Schneider after Game 2 versus the Kings
-Luongo asked for a trade after the series, acknowledging the fact that the Canucks are rightfully going to be running with Schneider
-Schneider signs a 3-year extension, at $4M per, to explicitly be our starting goaltender

In 2011-12, Schneider was just coming off of his rookie season in the NHL. I think that most (me, anyway) thought that he'd be traded at some point during the year, or during the off-season, but it never happened. This was Gillis' critical error, and it's bitten him in the ass now.

Also Gillis does have a choice and it the one I set out. I'm not in any way saying that's what I want to happen. Luongo will and should be traded at this point.I firmly believe that for all the reasons you've set out.


Technically, yes, he has a choice.

Realistically, though, he does not. He can send Luongo to Florida, Chicago, or he can pay $10M of Aquilini's money for Roberto to rot on our bench, and decrease in value even more.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:11 PM

That's the thing with some people and it's sad. They want to see Gillis fail so badly that they want to see the Canucks fail and will be pissed of if they succeed. There are some people now who trashed Luongo hard but now sing his praises so that they can "stick it" to Gillis. Whenever this is brought up however they always use the excuse that they want to see the team fail now so that it will succeed later; which essentially is a pretty big line of bull.

You are Gillis' 'Employee of the month' !!!!
Oh,that was last month,and the month before and before and before and ......
Just who wants to see the team fail,Mr. Employee ? Surely,you have a basis for your assertions?
What I see is your personal line of bull being peddled.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:13 PM

That's the thing with some people and it's sad. They want to see Gillis fail so badly that they want to see the Canucks fail and will be pissed of if they succeed.


I don't give a rat's ass about Mike Gillis, have never met the man and couldn't care less if I ever do. I call things like I see things. This was an obvious mistake that had been shaping up for years - Schneider should've been traded shortly after Luongo was signed to the extension that he was. The 3 year festering that occurred was not sustainable, and when you've got 2 of the top 10 goalies in the league on your roster, something's bound to blow up. And it has. In Gillis' face.

Guys like you, EOTM, simply cannot and will not admit to your GM making a mistake, like it somehow makes you less of a fan to do so, which is childish. There are people on this board, I think you're one of them, that still see nothing wrong with the Keith Ballard acquisition, still don't think that Michael Grabner could benefit us, etc. Christian Ehrhoff was an amazing defenceman, then he signed with Buffalo, and the next day he somehow found himself being labeled around here as both "soft" and as a "defensive liability". Jason Garrison is being trumpeted as the greatest signing of the summer. It's just annoying to hear/see such obviously biased thought pervading this board.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:14 PM

It's different for many reasons:

-Luongo explicitly LOST the starting job to Schneider after Game 2 versus the Kings
-Luongo asked for a trade after the series, acknowledging the fact that the Canucks are rightfully going to be running with Schneider
-Schneider signs a 3-year extension, at $4M per, to explicitly be our starting goaltender

In 2011-12, Schneider was just coming off of his rookie season in the NHL. I think that most (me, anyway) thought that he'd be traded at some point during the year, or during the off-season, but it never happened. This was Gillis' critical error, and it's bitten him in the ass now.


Luongo lost his start in the playoffs however was the starter all last season and the exact scenario you laid out was happening all last season just with each player being in the opposite role. We may think similar in that neither of us think it would be a good idea to have both of these guys in a Canucks jersey by training camp but we differ here. I don't see the scenario you laid out as being much different than the scenario that played out last season....some might even say the last two seasons but it was much more fringe at that time.
Once again there is no evidence that Luongo asked for a trade King. He stated he would waive hit NTC if asked. There is a world of difference in those two things man.

Technically, yes, he has a choice.

Realistically, though, he does not. He can send Luongo to Florida, Chicago, or he can pay $10M of Aquilini's money for Roberto to rot on our bench, and decrease in value even more.


Perhaps Luongo doesn't want to rot on a bench. Perhaps Gillis asked him to waive his NTC or perhaps Luongo asked Gillis for a trade but in either situation if Gillis wants to trade him he certainly isn't coming from a position of no power at all. Luongo wants to play; he a competitive guy who's very good/great at what he does. Maybe Gillis holds off and Luongo starts to get more flexible? My personal opinion is that it's much less complicated and much less combative than you guys are making it out to be.

You make Luongo out to be a white knight for saying what he said but I bet you'd vilify Gillis for making a similar move like layed out in this hypothetical. I hope I'm wrong man.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:16 PM

You are Gillis' 'Employee of the month' !!!!
Oh,that was last month,and the month before and before and before and ......
Just who wants to see the team fail,Mr. Employee ? Surely,you have a basis for your assertions?
What I see is your personal line of bull being peddled.


Yeah somebody saying they can't wait to see the Canucks get a paltry return for Luongo is a pretty damn good basis for that assertion.

Go back to whatever...it was a better ending for you in this battle you seem to want to have with me.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:18 PM

I don't give a rat's ass about Mike Gillis, have never met the man and couldn't care less if I ever do. I call things like I see things. This was an obvious mistake that had been shaping up for years - Schneider should've been traded shortly after Luongo was signed to the extension that he was. The 3 year festering that occurred was not sustainable, and when you've got 2 of the top 10 goalies in the league on your roster, something's bound to blow up. And it has. In Gillis' face.

Guys like you, EOTM, simply cannot and will not admit to your GM making a mistake, like it somehow makes you less of a fan to do so, which is childish. There are people on this board, I think you're one of them, that still see nothing wrong with the Keith Ballard acquisition, still don't think that Michael Grabner could benefit us, etc. Christian Ehrhoff was an amazing defenceman, then he signed with Buffalo, and the next day he somehow found himself being labeled around here as both "soft" and as a "defensive liability". Jason Garrison is being trumpeted as the greatest signing of the summer. It's just annoying to hear/see such obviously biased thought pervading this board.


He's made several mistakes...we've been over this before the last time you made this same bogus statement. Go find it from before but I've never said Gillis hasn't made mistakes. I just don't go around calling everything he does a mistake or trying to find bogus dots.

I'd like to get back to the actual discussion though so go ahead and comment back to this if you want but I'd rather continue with our other line of discussion.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:20 PM

You boys have a little cool down and maybe later we can get this back on track. I'll be back later so no need to make quick responses; you guys take some time and think about the responses. This quick back and forth is creating circles in this discussion.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:25 PM

Luongo lost his start in the playoffs however was the starter all last season and the exact scenario you laid out was happening all last season just with each player being in the opposite role. We may think similar in that neither of us think it would be a good idea to have both of these guys in a Canucks jersey by training camp but we differ here. I don't see the scenario you laid out as being much different than the scenario that played out last season....some might even say the last two seasons but it was much more fringe at that time.


How do you not see this? The entry-level sophomore supplanted the gold-medal winning, massive contract veteran. It doesn't benefit the Canucks to allocate $5.2M of their cap to a guy who both doesn't want to be there and would be playing 25% of the games. This is why Drew Bledsoe never played another game for the Patriots, after getting injured, when Tom Brady waltzed in as a backup and led them to a Super Bowl.

Get it?!?

Once again there is no evidence that Luongo asked for a trade King. He stated he would waive hit NTC if asked. There is a world of difference in those two things man.


Jesus H. Christ, tell me you're joking.

Is it normal for players under contract to one team to talk about how much they'd love to play somewhere else? Can we expect Henrik Sedin to be interviewed tomorrow, and express his desire to center Henrik Zetterberg in Detroit? Would you see anything strange about that?

Perhaps Luongo doesn't want to rot on a bench. Perhaps Gillis asked him to waive his NTC or perhaps Luongo asked Gillis for a trade but in either situation if Gillis wants to trade him he certainly isn't coming from a position of no power at all.


Elaborate. Let's hear how Gillis is NOT coming from a position of no power. I look forward to your response.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 05:29 AM

Employee is still peddling his theory that AV really did not mean what he said because Gillis said so.

Then there is his 'he did not make a 'public statement or demand' that he wants to be traded theory that he clings to.

Finally,there is the theory of 'things will be the same as last year' as Luo rides the pine behind the usurper.

It is like everything that has been done and said is not sticking to his brain,kind of the same denial Gillis has going.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 07:28 AM

Employee is still peddling his theory that AV really did not mean what he said because Gillis said so.

Then there is his 'he did not make a 'public statement or demand' that he wants to be traded theory that he clings to.

Finally,there is the theory of 'things will be the same as last year' as Luo rides the pine behind the usurper.

It is like everything that has been done and said is not sticking to his brain,kind of the same denial Gillis has going.


You've once again used your powers of English to misinterpret yet another "theory" you think I have completely misrepresenting what I've said and obviously not understanding what the actual topic was regarding what would be the same. It's like two people having a conversation and you jumping in the middle screaming the word "banana" and thinking you've somehow been a contributor. I think much like Gump I'm kind of done with you... or at least this version of you. (read: account name) It's been fun Nit but I'm tired of the shtick.

Any further off topic personal attacks will simply be reported Nit. I wanted to give you a chance but when your idears and opinions are backed into a corner your only recourse is to lash out like a dog rather than try to have a discussion.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 07:41 AM

Luongo does NOT have ALL the power .. they could park his arse on the Wolves .. wonder how his wife would like the Windy City in January?? ..
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 07:43 AM

How do you not see this? The entry-level sophomore supplanted the gold-medal winning, massive contract veteran. It doesn't benefit the Canucks to allocate $5.2M of their cap to a guy who both doesn't want to be there and would be playing 25% of the games. This is why Drew Bledsoe never played another game for the Patriots, after getting injured, when Tom Brady waltzed in as a backup and led them to a Super Bowl.

Get it?!?

Yeah I get that and agree with it. That is however not the scenario we're talking about.



Jesus H. Christ, tell me you're joking.

Is it normal for players under contract to one team to talk about how much they'd love to play somewhere else? Can we expect Henrik Sedin to be interviewed tomorrow, and express his desire to center Henrik Zetterberg in Detroit? Would you see anything strange about that?

Jesus H Christ is Henrik Sedin being traded as well. If not this is a really really bad comparison to try to make this point. You already conceded this man...why go back to this well? Did you think that Nit jumping in to muddy the waters and you violently thrashing around would somehow make everything else go away?
It's very simple...a player who is clearly being traded which has been publicized as if he is Jesus H Christ get to pick where he wants to go by the terms of his contract. This is the last I'd like to discuss about a public request for a trade. It's made up...it hasn't happened yet...just stop saying it has. Luongo is obviously being traded but you keep saying he's publicly asked for a trade. BANANA.

Just drep this "publicly asking" nonsense. Your points a good enough and you're well spoken enough to not have to make things up for effect.

Elaborate. Let's hear how Gillis is NOT coming from a position of no power. I look forward to your response.

I thought I already did elaborate. If Gillis decides he's not going to make the trade and Luongo is going to have to battle for the starting position (which is something I believe Gilman has said is a possibility) then Luongo has a choice. He can battle for his position, or he can soften up his perceived position. Again my opinion is you're interpreting this entire thing far more combative than it and turning into some war but really I haven't seen anything that suggest that. If however it is then all Gillis has to do is stop playing the game. Luongo has most of the cards but you're acting as if he has all the cards.

I also said that I feared you would lionize Luongo for his action but say Gillis was a monster for playing his cards in this "war" scenario. The thing is perhaps you're right about all of this and perhaps it is a war. I don't believe so but I don't discount the possibility that you're bang on about it. If that's the case though my hope would be that people would be rational about it rather than pick a side. My fear...well I guess I just talked about that.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 08:01 AM

we need power forward
another BIG good Defensman
an enforcer
3rd line centre that can play second

3-4 pieces away from having a team playoff built


You've been reading my posts .......... :)............ Forget the enforcer though unless it is Neil. Otherwise I prefer a player like Clowe.

Oh and by the way the power forward needs to be able to dish it when the music stops...........no pansies.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:02 AM

Luongo does NOT have ALL the power .. they could park his arse on the Wolves .. wonder how his wife would like the Windy City in January?? ..


And that benefits the Canucks how?
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:11 AM

I think our problem last year was scoring on the power play.

Another problem was that we were too predicable at times. The other team's D would back off the Sedins and let them play pass the puck in the corners all night long, while collapsing to the net anytime a shot from the point or half boards was made.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:11 AM

I thought I already did elaborate. If Gillis decides he's not going to make the trade and Luongo is going to have to battle for the starting position (which is something I believe Gilman has said is a possibility) then Luongo has a choice. He can battle for his position, or he can soften up his perceived position. Again my opinion is you're interpreting this entire thing far more combative than it and turning into some war but really I haven't seen anything that suggest that. If however it is then all Gillis has to do is stop playing the game. Luongo has most of the cards but you're acting as if he has all the cards.


You haven't seen anything to suggest that? Did you hear what was said in Florida yesterday? Did you hear what was said at the WSOP? Luongo wants OUT, and he wants out quickly.

Both of these guys are just playing politics. Gillis is putting on a front by saying that there's no urgency to trade Lu, which is total crap. Lu hasn't gone Eric Lindros (yet) and refused to show up to camp, but both of these public "time to move on" statements were said for a specific reason, and that reason was to prod Gillis to get the deal done. He could've very easily ignored that reporter's question, he could've very easily answered more vaguely and with more political correctness. It was pretty blunt, just like it was at the WSOP. Those are rehearsed answers.

I also said that I feared you would lionize Luongo for his action but say Gillis was a monster for playing his cards in this "war" scenario. The thing is perhaps you're right about all of this and perhaps it is a war. I don't believe so but I don't discount the possibility that you're bang on about it. If that's the case though my hope would be that people would be rational about it rather than pick a side.


Fine. And my stance this whole time is that Gillis got caught with his pants down, and that he needs to trade Lu ASAP while he still has any value at all and before this distraction invades our training camp. Gillis needs to concede a loss on this one, and just take basically the best offer that the Panthers will give us, because that's where Luongo wants to go, and he has the power to dictate where he goes. Acknowledge that you screwed up, take your lumps, send Luongo to Florida and move on. His value will not increase by sitting on our bench or by playing for the Chicago Wolves.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:44 AM

I don't give a rat's ass about Mike Gillis, have never met the man and couldn't care less if I ever do. I call things like I see things. This was an obvious mistake that had been shaping up for years - Schneider should've been traded shortly after Luongo was signed to the extension that he was. The 3 year festering that occurred was not sustainable, and when you've got 2 of the top 10 goalies in the league on your roster, something's bound to blow up. And it has. In Gillis' face.

Guys like you, EOTM, simply cannot and will not admit to your GM making a mistake, like it somehow makes you less of a fan to do so, which is childish. There are people on this board, I think you're one of them, that still see nothing wrong with the Keith Ballard acquisition, still don't think that Michael Grabner could benefit us, etc. Christian Ehrhoff was an amazing defenceman, then he signed with Buffalo, and the next day he somehow found himself being labeled around here as both "soft" and as a "defensive liability". Jason Garrison is being trumpeted as the greatest signing of the summer. It's just annoying to hear/see such obviously biased thought pervading this board.


Gillis' biggest mistake is signing Luongo to that ridiculous contract, otherwise this discussion wouldn't exist. I can live with the other mistakes (Ballard, Erhoff, Grabner), but to see Luo traded for table scraps will be vomit producing.

Offering unlimited NTCs on long-term contracts is stupid and many Canuck fans voiced this at the time it was offered. Lou is not the goalie he was in 2007 and now all we have is: 'I only want to play in Florida.' Pitiful.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:48 AM

Luongo does NOT have ALL the power .. they could park his arse on the Wolves .. wonder how his wife would like the Windy City in January?? ..


He wouldn't pass through waivers, so we wouldn't even get the table scraps Florida is offering.
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