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(proposal) if cap goes down to $58 mill with no rollbacks

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if this is true what must we part with to get under the cap? we will let lou go for next to nothing. manny, ballard and maybe a couple more will be gone imo. these are trades i think gillis needs to make before the new agreement kicks in and ruins our chances at getting a decent return for lou.

to van: howden, ellerby, clemmensen, 2013 2nd

to fla: luongo

we get a B+ prospect, a good d-man who needs a change of scenery, a backup for schneids and a 2nd

to nyi: ballard

to van: 2013 3rd

just a salary dump

to win: alberts, malholtra

to van: 2013 4th, 5th

another salary dump

roster with salary cap at $58 mill

FORWARDS

Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)

Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / David Booth ($4.250m)

Mason Raymond ($2.275m) / Jordan Schroeder ($1.025m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)

Dale Weise ($0.615m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)

Andrew Ebbett ($0.600m) /

DEFENSEMEN

Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m)

Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Alexander Edler ($3.250m)

Keaton Ellerby ($0.700m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)

Kevin Connauton ($0.900m) /

GOALTENDERS

Cory Schneider ($4.000m)

Scott Clemmensen ($1.200m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)

(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)

SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $57,735,000; BONUSES: $310,000

CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $12,465,000

or we trade booth to whomever for picks and prospects then our roster can look like this without giving up manny or alberts

FORWARDS

Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)

Mason Raymond ($2.275m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Chris Higgins ($1.900m)

Zack Kassian ($0.870m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)

Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Dale Weise ($0.615m)

Andrew Ebbett ($0.600m) /

DEFENSEMEN

Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m)

Jason Garrison ($4.600m) / Alexander Edler ($3.250m)

Keaton Ellerby ($0.700m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)

Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) / Kevin Connauton ($0.900m)

GOALTENDERS

Cory Schneider ($4.000m)

Scott Clemmensen ($1.200m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)

(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)

SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,785,000; BONUSES: $185,000

CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $13,415,000

IF the salary cap does go down to 58mill with no salary rollback what would you do to get under the cap?

its really hard to find ways of moving players and which ones we keep

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That's actually a very good job of getting under a new salary cap

EDIT: Mis read that. I think we would be ok with your proposals as we would be freeing up close to $13 million

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More than half the league would be over the salary cap... there would have to be rollbacks or else the league would be a mess with more than half of the teams trying to do things like this.

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to van: howden, ellerby, clemmensen, 2013 2nd

to fla: luongo

we get a B+ prospect, a good d-man who needs a change of scenery, a backup for schneids and a 2nd

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Nice lineup but hwbout,

trade luongo for ellerby, howden, a first

trade ballard, raymond, alberts, a first for couturier, haha i know, real original but it makes sense, philly is desperate for d man and ballard would fit in their top 4 and alberts would be a depth d man, raymond would take couturiers spot in the lineup and the first would turn into a prospect

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER

My Custom Lineup

FORWARDS

Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)

David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m)

Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)

Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Guillaume Desbiens ($0.600m)

Dale Weise ($0.615m)

DEFENSEMEN

Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m)

Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)

Kevin Connauton ($0.900m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)

Keaton Ellerby ($0.700m) /

GOALTENDERS

Cory Schneider ($4.000m)

Eddie Lack ($0.750m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)

(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)

SALARY CAP: $58,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $57,590,000; BONUSES: $635,000

CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $410,000

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If the cap truly goes down to $58M, then teams like Florida and Philly (as suggested in this thread) wouldn't be able to take on players with $4-5M+ cap hits as then they'd be over the cap themselves.

In other words, no way it happens without salary rollbacks so no way to predict what we might have to move if anything.

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The league isn't even asking for rollbacks... it's current proposal has the cash going into escrow. That basically means the cap stays the same but at the end of the year when they figure out actual revenues, the owners would take all that cash that was held back to make the % split work out.

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I disagree. What I think is reasonable is to keep the cap at 70mil and freeze it there until that is 50% of the revenues. They it can go up accordingly.

Players win, Owners win.

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