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Poll: Who is the best Swedish NHLer of all time? (49 member(s) have cast votes)

Who is the best Swedish NHLer of all time?

  1. Peter Forsberg (10 votes [20.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.41%

  2. Nicklas Lidström (33 votes [67.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 67.35%

  3. Börje Salming (2 votes [4.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.08%

  4. Markus Näslund (2 votes [4.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.08%

  5. either Sedin (1 votes [2.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.04%

  6. Mats Sundin (1 votes [2.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.04%

  7. Henrik Lundqvist (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Daniel Alfredsson (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. Pelle Lindbergh (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. Kent Nilsson (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  11. Håkan Loob (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  12. Mats Näslund (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  13. Anders Hedberg (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 uber_pwnzor

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:00 AM

Edit: Poll added

I just saw the thread about the best Finish player, and I was thinking, who's the best Swedish player ever to play in the NHL?

This is my take list:

1) Nicklas Lidström
Mr. Perfect played 20 perfect seasons for the Red Wings, he was the first Swede to win the Conn Smythe Trophy, won seven Norris Trophies, was the first European ever to captain a team to the Cup. He is, to me, the second best defenseman ever to play the game.
He is one of the most consistent players ever to play in the NHL.

2) Peter Forsberg
Forsberg in his prime was arguably one of the best players ever to play in the NHL, his mix of physicality, defensive awareness and offensive game was unique, his point per game ratio is by far the highest of any Swedish player. He was also great in the playoffs; he missed the entire 2001/02 season due to injurys, came back in the playoffs and won the post season scoring race, while only making it to the semifinals. He was also the first Swedish player ever to win the Art Ross.
But as a Swede, he'll always be remembered for this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vFu-PmXizs the goal that gave us our first ever Olympic gold medal! (He also had an assist on Lidström's goal that gave us our second.)

When Forsberg wasn't injured he was the best Swedish player out there.

3) Mats Sundin
One of the best leaders ever; say what you want about the Leafs, but Sundin was class. His line-mates were never half the player he was, yet he still managed to get a PPG over 1.0. He was always the captain for Team Sweden, as was loved by the people. In 1991 he scored http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhqvTpJyHTssomething that resulted in Sweden winning the WCs. (International tournaments are a WAY bigger deal in Europe than they are in North America.)

4) Börje Salming
The guy who single handedly got rid of the term "Chicken Swedes". Salming played the game with grace, but also with power. Him and Sundin are the only Swedes in the Hockey Hall of Fame, Lidström also stated that playing with Salming in in the 1991 SC's was one of the greatest moments of his career.

5) Markus Näslund
Nothing needs to be said.

6-7) Sedin
Here either.

8) Henrik Lundqvist
King Henrik has recorded 30 or more wins every season of his career, been nominated to the Vezina Trophy four times, won it one time, and the Hart and Ted Lindsey once. He's got one Olympic gold, and two World Championship silver medals.

9) Daniel Alfredsson
If you've scored more than a thousand points in your career and been the captain of a NHL team for more than twelve years, then you're on the list.

10) Pelle Lindbergh
He would probably have been much higher on the list, had he not died very tragically at the age of 26. But he still managed to win the Vezina once, play two All Star Games and get one First All Star Team placement.

What would your top ten look like?

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:06 AM

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:10 AM

I might have had Kent Nilsson in that list.

686 points in 553 NHL games is pretty impressive. http://www.hockeydb....ay.php?pid=3977
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:10 AM

Quite accurate. Sedins above Naslund imo.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:14 AM

Mats Naslund, Kent Nilsson and Hakan Loob deserve to be mentioned here.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:15 AM

Big toss up between Lidstrom or Forsberg.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:17 AM

Big toss up between Lidstrom or Forsberg.


I agree... but i would have to go with Lidstrom
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:18 AM

Lidstrom had the best career, but Forsberg may have been the better player. If not for all his injuries in the later years he would have some insane numbers.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:22 AM

Show some class, at least spell Markus' name correctly.

My vote goes to Lidstrom. Arguably the best defenseman ever, Swedish or not.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:29 AM

I would say Lidstrom first and Forsberg second for sure, from there it gets pretty iffy, Forsberg could've been the best ever, IMO, except that his career was hampered by injuries. When he was in his prime and healthy, Forsberg was one of the best power forwards, if not the best, in NHL history.

I know it's not a popular opinion around here, but, I would also put Alfredsson ahead of both Sedins as well as Naslund on this list, Longevity, consistency, and being a captain for 12 years is my reasoning behind that.

No votes for Tommi Salo? ;)
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:31 AM

Lidstrom had the best career, but Forsberg may have been the better player. If not for all his injuries in the later years he would have some insane numbers.


I hate the injury excuse. This is what makes Lidstrom the clear cut #1 on this list. His career was not ended by injuries. To me, he is the best d-man of all time. I understand the Orr arguement BUT the fact remains, his career ended early. It's very unfortunate that Orr didn't play longer, but Lidstrom is clearly the best ever due to his durability and ability to maintain his greatness through so many changes to the league over the years.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:32 AM

Obviously Lidstrom at #1.

I'd put Salming over Sundin, and the Sedins over Naslund.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:33 AM

Pretty good list. I agree with Lidstrom being #1. I'd also put the Sedins ahead of Naslund.

Maybe you should make a poll for who people think is the best?

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:33 AM

Big toss up between Lidstrom or Forsberg.

Agreed simply can't decide just because they are different positions, but they are hands down the 2 greatest Swedish players ever.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:48 AM

Each player is the best at their position, but in my opinion its lidstrom followed closely by Foppa.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:52 AM

Borje Salming, "The King", for me.

Not only was he a perrenial all-star on a very good Leafs team in the 70's, he was a pioneer, along with Inge Hammmarstrom, for European players making the jump to the NHL.

787 points in 1148 games... Tough as nails... Hall Of Famer... Brilliant passer (600+ assists)...

Lidstrom and Foppa were awesome, but, for those who watched Salming, an argument can be made for him to be higher than #4 on this subjective list.

I also think that "The Magic Man" should be on this list.

Edit: Forgot to add that I love the addition of Lindbergh at #10. A stud in his all too brief career. RIP, Pelle.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:59 AM

Gotta give it to Lidstrom... one of the greatest defenseman all-time let alone alone being Swedish
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:00 PM

Anders Hedberg was better than most of the players on the list .. Lidstrom #1, Sundin #2, Forsberg #3, Salming #4, Hedberg #5, Henrik Sedin #6, Daniel Sedin #7, Kent Nilsson #8, Naslund #9, Alfredsson #10 ..

((FYI Hedberg's stats: (WHA and NHL) 751 games, 408 goals, 447 assists .. averaged 1.138 points per game .. ))

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:07 PM

1. Nicklas Lidstrom
- I don't rate him as highly as most do, but he's still the #1 Swede.

2. Peter Forsberg
- One of the best play-makers of All-Time

3. Borje Salming
- The First legendary Swede

4. Kent Nilsson
- Too skilled to ignore, even with a short career

5. Mats Sundin
- Almost always a point a game player

6. Daniel Alfredsson
- Solid leader who has put up some big points

7. Henrik Sedin
- Hart and Art Ross winner in 2009-10

8. Daniel Sedin
- Won Art Ross and Ted Lindsay in 2010-11

9. Mats Naslund
- Skilled left wing who won the Lady Byng in 1988

10. Henrik Lundqvist
- Best Swedish goaltender of all-time and he's still going stronger than ever before.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:10 PM

lidstrom ... then forsberg ...the twins are still active for some years ...they could reach some good numbers and may collect a cup...or 2

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:10 PM

Anders Hedberg was better than most of the players on the list .. Lidstrom #1, Sundin #2, Forsberg #3, Salming #4, Hedberg #5, Henrik Sedin #6, Daniel Sedin #7, Kent Nilsson #8, Naslund #9, Alfredsson #10 ..

((FYI Hedberg's stats: (WHA and NHL) 751 games, 408 goals, 447 assists .. averaged 1.138 points per game .. ))


No one has mentioned ULF Nilsson yet, either. The man played with the aforementioned Anders Hedberg and, of course, Bobby Hull to form the best line the WHA ever saw. Hedberg and Nilsson then went on to star for the Rangers. Both career point per game plus players.

Nobody ever gives the WHA its credit.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:11 PM

I'd put Salming at the top, but I am one of the minority on CDC who saw him play in his prime, he delivered probably the hardest hit I ever saw Gretzky take. Probably should have won a Norris or two except for a prejudice against Europeans at the time, as well as the presence of guys like Orr, Potvin, Robinson, & Brad Park.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:12 PM

Honourable mention to Lars Lindgren and Thomas Gradin.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:16 PM

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:36 PM

Lidstrom.

Forsberg and Sundin are very close for 2nd.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 01:14 PM

I hate the injury excuse. This is what makes Lidstrom the clear cut #1 on this list. His career was not ended by injuries. To me, he is the best d-man of all time. I understand the Orr arguement BUT the fact remains, his career ended early. It's very unfortunate that Orr didn't play longer, but Lidstrom is clearly the best ever due to his durability and ability to maintain his greatness through so many changes to the league over the years.


So true. It is all speculation whenever someone argues that "player x could have done better if he wasn't injured" because who knows if they would have scored at the same pace. And i also agree that durability should be included when comparing players.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:07 PM

I might have had Kent Nilsson in that list.

686 points in 553 NHL games is pretty impressive. http://www.hockeydb....ay.php?pid=3977


Yeah, he's often forgotten. I have him at #4 on my list.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 04:25 PM

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:20 PM

Lidstrom, Forsberg and King Henrik for their respective positions, agreed honorary mentions to Sundin, Naslund, Alfie (remarkable that he went from being a super-low pick with the Sens yet went on to do what he did) and the Sedins, who revolutionized the game in their own way with the Sedinery.

Too bad I wasn't around to see the other guys (Salming, Lindbergh, Mats Naslund, Nilsson or Loob)

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 10:47 PM

Nick Lidstrom. With him, the spectrum of discussion moves to best defencemen of all-time.

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