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Do you believe Kassian will eventually step into a top six power forward role and excel?

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#31 Stizz19

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 10:35 PM

In 2-3 years he will be a 30-40 goal guy, mark my words. We saw the flashes of talent last year and he needs ice time to prove it. The Sedins did absolutely nothing until Bertuzzi broke a neck and Naslund didn't care anymore, as soon as they got they ice time they scored at a point-per-game pace.
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#32 Stick-in-Rink

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:08 PM

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Oh so he wants to actually compete against his team mates, and earn his ice time............. Someone could've learned a few pointers from Kassian. ;)
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:16 PM

I don't understand why people say that he wasn't given a chance, I mean, just like the article stated, he was given some time on the first and second line.

He disappointed me last year, but I think and hope that he can surprise me in a matter of time
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#34 Clonedanielsedin

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:32 AM

I think most importantly ,as a physical player expected to enforce and intimidate, he needs to learn how to play his role without taking too many stupid penalties. Of course with that role you are going to accumulate high PIM, the key is all about the timing and being smart. When and when not to risk taking a penalty or also when you need to change the momentum and make a statement by taking an obvious one.

I'm not really worried about his offensive side, with top six minutes I'm sure he can easily get 40pts and I'm happy with that as long has he is perfecting his enforcer role. That is the real reason Gillis brought him in, isn't it?

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:34 AM

Either he turns to be a bertuzzi or Steve bernier, It'll be awesome to see what happens. Could be better than bertuzzi, who knows until a couple years. It's going to be awesome and bernier was a cool player. Physical edge, and I believe he played great for us in the playoffs when he was with him. Kassian will be badass!
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:46 AM

Come on let's get the CBA done. I'm looking forward to watching Kassian emerge as a legit power forward.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 01:10 AM

I want Kassian to prove me wrong this season. I'm not as high on the kid as most Canuck fans but I would be ecstatic if he made me eat my words and put up solid numbers this upcoming season. He had those flashes of brilliance in his first few games but then lost his groove which really left a sour taste in my mouth (and his too). If Kassian can find chemistry with Schroeder or the Sedin's, then this team gets a hell of a lot better.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:19 AM

Either he turns to be a bertuzzi or Steve bernier, It'll be awesome to see what happens. Could be better than bertuzzi, who knows until a couple years. It's going to be awesome and bernier was a cool player. Physical edge, and I believe he played great for us in the playoffs when he was with him. Kassian will be badass!
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:39 AM

I'm looking very forward to Kassian and Jensen in the years to come!
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:10 AM

I like kassian's potential but he really has to prove himself this year. If he does well and Vancouver signs Doan for 4yrs then pretty sure Hansen is a goner :(

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 05:34 AM

I like kassian's potential but he really has to prove himself this year. If he does well and Vancouver signs Doan for 4yrs then pretty sure Hansen is a goner :(


Why would anybody want to trade Hansen, from a value for money perspective on the team, or in competition with the 3rd line right wings in the league, how is he not in the top three..?
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:02 AM

I like kassian's potential but he really has to prove himself this year. If he does well and Vancouver signs Doan for 4yrs then pretty sure Hansen is a goner :(


Good possibility of that, however, Hansen's cap hit of $1.35 million (two years left on his current contract) is still low enough that he could possibly be kept as a 3rd to 4th liner (and also as injury insurance) for at least one more year before the team would have to consider trading him.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:37 AM

I like kassian's potential but he really has to prove himself this year. If he does well and Vancouver signs Doan for 4yrs then pretty sure Hansen is a goner :(

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:15 AM

Didn't Bertuzzi not produce until he was like 26 or something. Big Power Forwards take long time to develop. He'll be a dominant force in due time.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:27 AM

I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised. Has anyone ever noticed that every guy we bring over has a hard time fitting into this team right away. I think the pressure, the different way the Canucks approach everything, travel, and AV are all hard to deal with. Alberts, Booth, and now Kassian all had trouble from the get go. It is also difficult to come into a team that is high flying and a PT team at the same time.

I also like how Kassian says that Buffalo has great hockey but indicates that Van is a different beast entirely and he is enjoying the challenge and also the atmosphere of being responsible. Honestly, very tough for a 21 year old kid to deal with after being traded from a team out of the playoffs and work on his person at the same time as contributing to a team that had all but wrapped up the Western Conference. Now he has had all summer to get ready, had access to the Canucks training staff and facilities and he probably feels more a part of the organization. Very big deal for a kid.

Lastly, when you look at his conditioning, which is why the Canucks bring in specialists to do this stuff it is encouraging to notice that maybe the Sabres were a little neglectful in his development. They were perfectly happy letting Kassian beef up hoping he'd turn into Lucic (wanted a third or fourth line brawler) when Kassian has more skill and far better skating. In Van no detail is too small to be examined and beaten to death, sometimes for the better.

I don't understand why people say that he wasn't given a chance, I mean, just like the article stated, he was given some time on the first and second line.

He disappointed me last year, but I think and hope that he can surprise me in a matter of time


When he got his few shifts on the first and second I was very excited. Although he didn't produce right away I was far more happy with what I saw potential wise compared to what we usually throw out there. While I understand and now somewhat accept AV's philosopy regarding playing it safe all the time I thought he was very close to being better than any winger we currently have, besides what Burrows is doing with the Sedins. Kid just needs a chance to get some prolonged playing time, maybe one full game so we are giving him a chance to succeed.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:36 AM

I don't think a successful season for Kassian means that he records 50+ points. I think it simply means that he brings his physical game night in and night out. The points will come, hopefully.

Kassian has shown that he's able to say the right things and, based on what he's saying, he has the right attitude heading into camp. He has the tools to excel in the NHL - he has shown that before in junior, the AHL, etc - but he really needs to be more consistent at doing what the team needs from a guy like him: physicality (the primary measure of which is hitting).

IMHO, so long as Kassian can bring a physical game consistently, I'm sure he'll chip in more points than he did last year. At worst he will be like a more physical Taylor Pyatt or a poor man's Ryan Malone. At best... who knows? He has the chance to carve out a niche for himself.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:37 AM

Come on guys. The kid is entering his second season with the team (First possible full season at that). Let Kassian show us what he has got before we condemn him. I wish people would stop whining about the Hodgson trade and just move on. Kas has been working hard this summer it seems,so all we can do is wait and see what he has learned.

Looking ahead to the possible upcoming season,and I'm excited to watch our team play again!!!
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 09:08 AM

Can you edit this so its readable?

I'm just saying people need to be realistic about him, he has years or development still to come before he is ready for top six. How many power forward type players do you know who jumped into a top six roll on any team much less a PT team? He should be (if he makes the team) on the third or 4th line no more. How long did it take Ryan to crack the second line? Your in for a lot of disappointment if your expectations are too high for him because he has not looked ready yet.


He won't be playing on the fourth line IMO. I seem him landing on the third (or if he's had miraculous development, the second) or the Wolves.

The third line would be perfect for him. Physical play will be expected, defensive responsibility will be taught and he can chip in with some occasional offense. I'd be happy with 30+ points from him this year and a consistent physical presence. MAYBE some spot duty on the second to fill in for injuries if he earns it.

If he can't earn that third line role, his development would be better served playing tons of minutes on the first line in Chicago vs warming the bench for 55 minutes a game here IMO.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 09:29 AM

I'm cautiously optimistic about Kassian.
If there is a lock-out, more time in the AHL will also do him some good.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 09:44 AM

I think it a couple years he'll be a top 6 winger. He has speed which is kinda rare for a big guy. He needs to add some more muscle/mass and be in better condition to last the 82 game grind. At best...I see him as Rick Nash lite. At worst...Steve Bernier 2.0 (NJ version).

Right now...I just want him to pot 20+ goals whether he's on the 2nd or 3rd line. If he's on the 4th...maybe 10 goals. If he's on the 1st...no less than 30 goals.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 09:57 AM

I absolutely believe he'll make a jump into the top six and dominate, eventually.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:06 AM

In 2-3 years he will be a 30-40 goal guy, mark my words. We saw the flashes of talent last year and he needs ice time to prove it. The Sedins did absolutely nothing until Bertuzzi broke a neck and Naslund didn't care anymore, as soon as they got they ice time they scored at a point-per-game pace.


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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:11 AM


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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:22 AM

I don't care if he gets 20pts or 40pts next year. As long as he plays consistently well in both zones, and improves game after game - enough to gain and keep the confidence of AV - I'll be happy. Kassian is very young still and has years to grow into a true power forward, Bertuzzi style.

I'll be very happy with 20 goals, but having him in the lineup for a full season will be considered "a successful season" in my books.

Good luck Zack - you'll be a fan favourite soon enough, mark my words!
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 11:47 AM

Once his fitness/stamina i(BF% issues) is boosted, put him up with the Sedins for 10+ to boost his confidence and then the sky will be the limit for him..............I am excited about what he will bring to us. I hope we don't rush him though.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 05:29 PM

Too early to tell.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:13 PM

I still have hope!
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:24 PM

Here's hoping he is better than Bure....


Bure was an anomaly; a wonderful, explosive, talented, anomaly. Kassian needs to grow into that. I like this kid more, every time I read something about him. Can't wait to see him, finally, in a Top 6 role, but that better come after some tough seasons on the Wolves(or Abbotsford, if that's where they end up)

I hope there's NHL hockey this coming season! The local team here isn't all that exciting... lol
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:33 PM

Kassian has to embrace his mean side. He doesn't need to be a goody goody.

Bertuzzi had a nasty side, on and off the ice. The Canucks need to let that side of Kassian translate onto the ice.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:49 PM

He really needs to prove himself here. Hope he does though.
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