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[Article] Kassian has motivation to move from Canucks project to prime-time player


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Poll: Do you believe Kassian will eventually step into a top six power forward role and excel? (299 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you believe Kassian will eventually step into a top six power forward role and excel?

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#61 thehamburglar

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:50 PM

AMAZING. THIS*


Not this. Don't believe Sedins didn't do anything until Bert was done.
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#62 Ossi Vaananen

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:51 PM

He actually has a head on his shoulders...

Booth - Kes - Kass - whew!

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#63 elvis15

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 09:04 PM

He absolutely has the tools to be a top 6 forward, it's just a question of what it'll take for him to put it together mentally. He's working hard on any physical limitations already and absolutely has the commitment and attitude to do so.

People expect a lot out of him, and it's just too hard to do so. Blake Wheeler was brought up as an interesting comparison recently in a Canucks Army article, and I think it's a reasonable one. Wheeler took a few years to play in the WCHL with Minnesota before playing in his first NHL season and getting 36 points. He was a year older than Kassian is now and just this year had his breakout at 25, earning 64 points.

Now, they have slightly different playing styles, with Kassian having more grit and Wheeler more skill, but the adage that power forwards take longer to develop holds true. Kassian will quickly become a 30-40 point guy if he gets above the 4th line, and then in a few years we'll see his progression.

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#64 Burnsey

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 08:09 AM

As much as I would hate to see a a lock-out, it could do wonders for Kassian. He has shown at times that he has the potential of being a top 6 guy, just needs to work on a few things and become more consistent and we'll have a solid player. So maybe a lock-out (just until christmas though....I need my Canucks hockey ;) ) would really help him find his potential playing in the minors and getting decent minutes.


As for the people saying he was not worth trading for, well there was a point where many thought Hodgson was a waste of a draft pick. There was a time when Kesler and Burrows were seen as 3rd liner's at best, and the Sedins would never crack the top line. A lot of things can change. Lets not forget this is a guy that only has 44 games under his belt, like all players he needs more time to learn the NHL game and when he does that he can be hugely effective. And just to point out that Hodgson would bee on track for a 11pts (1 more than Kassian) in his first year in the NHL. Don't give up on a kid that has played very little already.

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#65 elvis15

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:23 AM

^Yup, patience is a virtue.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 02:21 PM

^Yup, patience is a virtue.


Some may say that patience is not penciling him into the first or second line before he shows us he is ready.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 02:39 PM

I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised. Has anyone ever noticed that every guy we bring over has a hard time fitting into this team right away. I think the pressure, the different way the Canucks approach everything, travel, and AV are all hard to deal with. Alberts, Booth, and now Kassian all had trouble from the get go. It is also difficult to come into a team that is high flying and a PT team at the same time.

I also like how Kassian says that Buffalo has great hockey but indicates that Van is a different beast entirely and he is enjoying the challenge and also the atmosphere of being responsible. Honestly, very tough for a 21 year old kid to deal with after being traded from a team out of the playoffs and work on his person at the same time as contributing to a team that had all but wrapped up the Western Conference. Now he has had all summer to get ready, had access to the Canucks training staff and facilities and he probably feels more a part of the organization. Very big deal for a kid.

Lastly, when you look at his conditioning, which is why the Canucks bring in specialists to do this stuff it is encouraging to notice that maybe the Sabres were a little neglectful in his development. They were perfectly happy letting Kassian beef up hoping he'd turn into Lucic (wanted a third or fourth line brawler) when Kassian has more skill and far better skating. In Van no detail is too small to be examined and beaten to death, sometimes for the better.



When he got his few shifts on the first and second I was very excited. Although he didn't produce right away I was far more happy with what I saw potential wise compared to what we usually throw out there. While I understand and now somewhat accept AV's philosopy regarding playing it safe all the time I thought he was very close to being better than any winger we currently have, besides what Burrows is doing with the Sedins. Kid just needs a chance to get some prolonged playing time, maybe one full game so we are giving him a chance to succeed.


Third paragraph raises a great point.

Buffalo was a team easily pushed around at the time - with no push back ie. miller vs lucic.

Most likely the sabres brass was more concerned with deterrent in kassians development especially considering the likes of Boston are regular opponents of buffalo.

You could say that the Canucks aren't the toughest team either but they ate looking for kassian to contribute points wise first while providing consistent physicality. It's a project that hopefully brings thus physicality to the top six where it lacks the most.


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Posted 01 September 2012 - 02:44 PM

i say...


kassian gets 26 goals 25 assistants for total of 51 points!!


100% guaranteed

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 05:53 PM

i say...


kassian gets 26 goals 25 assistants for total of 51 points!!


100% guaranteed


What year?

#70 ccc44

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 10:01 PM

That's mainly because AV the genious sticks him on the 4th line.

I think if Kassian isn't ready for a top 6 role this year, he will be for 2013-14.

blah blah blah , Give it up with this whole AV and not letting the prospects play , Canucks were a contending team last season and Kassian could barley handle his role on the 4th line and it was evident he needed more ice time to develop but on a contender your not going to get top 6 minutes to develop your skills unless down in the AHL or you go from being a contender to a team thats either a fringe playoff team or basement dweller just ask Edmonton .

If you want to play top 6 minutes on a contending team you got to be consistant every game and Kassian could not even do that on the 4th line yet last year
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 10:14 PM

Give your heads a shake Kassian isn't going to be a 40 goal scorer, you gotta be kidding. He'll be a career 40-50 point guy unless hes lucky enough to play with the Sedins. Comparing him to Bertuzzi already is just ridiculous. You guys must be smoking some heavy medical grade stuff.

If hes a 40 point guy thats perfectly fine with me as long as he is fighting and throwing huge hits.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:41 PM

Give your heads a shake Kassian isn't going to be a 40 goal scorer, you gotta be kidding. He'll be a career 40-50 point guy unless hes lucky enough to play with the Sedins. Comparing him to Bertuzzi already is just ridiculous. You guys must be smoking some heavy medical grade stuff.

If hes a 40 point guy thats perfectly fine with me as long as he is fighting and throwing huge hits.


I say he'll be a 30, 30, guy for sure in the future..

#73 MoneypuckOverlord

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:51 PM

I personally think a player like Doan will do wonders for Kassian kinda like how Sundin did wonders for Kesler SEdins, Burrows Edler.

NOt only that I think Doan will actually be a great mentor for Kassian , Jensen, etc. Wether Doan is here or not, has nothing to do with Kassian cracking a top 6 spot.

Players Nikolaj Ehlers have been compared too by the fan base of the Vancouver Canucks.

 

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2 Markus Naslund

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 12:24 AM

Give your heads a shake Kassian isn't going to be a 40 goal scorer, you gotta be kidding. He'll be a career 40-50 point guy unless hes lucky enough to play with the Sedins. Comparing him to Bertuzzi already is just ridiculous. You guys must be smoking some heavy medical grade stuff.

If hes a 40 point guy thats perfectly fine with me as long as he is fighting and throwing huge hits.


Comparing him to Bertuzzi already is just as ridiculous as trying to project how many points he'll average....

How about you let the guy develop and then we'll see how he turns out. Don't pretend to know more than anyone else. You don't have a crystal ball.

Kesler was projected to be a solid third line checker. Even the best scouts in the world didn't predict he'd score 40 goals one day.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 12:43 AM

im thinking of buying some chicago wolves ahl package online just to watch our rookies play during the lockout

ever since that russia canada rookie tournament im hungry for hockey

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#76 Ossi Vaananen

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 01:48 AM

Some of you posters need to chill out. This article is more or less a pump up for Kassian, let the people be excited. Why must you try to bring people down?

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 03:11 AM

Great article! Kassian is going to prove some people here wrong. When he is in his prime it's going to be fun rooting for him, we have a great foundation going forward. He is a big nasty with some attitude!




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