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#1 zombieksa

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 05:21 PM

As any informed Canucks fan knows, this off season Vancouver had very few UFA contracts ending, but at the end of the 2013 season our roster COULD look very different.

The follow players are UFA's come next summer (Just immediate roster players) :
Manny Malhotra
Mason Raymond
Alex Burrows
Chris Higgins
Maxim Lapierre
Andrew Ebbett
Aaron Volpatti

Alex Edler
Andrew Alberts

I am skipping RFA's to make this simpler.
The question is what would YOU feel comfortable offering each of these players for their next contract, what would this be dependent on in the 2012-13 season, and would you rather let them go?

I guess as the OP I will start.

Manny Malhotra - 2 yrs @ 1M/yr - Even if he does not play like he did 2010-2011 this year I would be comfortable giving him 2 more years to solidify the 4th line, as center or winger he in a great mentor and still fantastic in his own end. If not, offer him a coaching position.

Mason Raymond - 1 yr @ 2.275M - Essentially the same contract he is on, and this is only if he performs well this season (20g, 20a) giving him another season to prove that he can be consistent season to season. If he does poorly I would let him walk.

Alex Burrows - 6 yr @ 4M/yr - Burrows has proven his consistency and durability, as well as his skill and heart, I would offer this contract even before this season starts, and if he held out for more I would be willing to start getting closer to 5M. I just feel 6-7 years is the most he is going to play.

Chris Higgins - 3yrs @ 3.0M/yr - I feel that if he has another season like he had last season it would be smart to lock Higgy up to a comfortable contract at about average cap per roster spot as he fits in both on the 2nd and 3rd lines, Higgins is too valuable to lose, but I think anything over 3 should be for guaranteed 2nd line wingers. Higgins seems to love Vancouver and would probably go for this.

Maxim Lapierre - 6yrs @ 1.5M/yr - Barring a completely terrible season where Max forgets how to play defensively I believe most canucks fans want him signed to a fairly long contract. Max is the perfect 4th line center and has shown the ability to slot anywhere in the lineup. I believe he has more offensive upside then he has shown and still being young 27, he should be locked up for his prime.

Andrew Ebbett - I do not see him being re-signed unless he has an outing like he had last year with his GWG's, if he does that again 1yr @ 650k

Aaron Volpatti - 2 yrs @ 750k - If he produces a little more offensively (10p) has regular fights (5+) plays well defensively (-5<) on a very defensive 4th line, and amounts more than 100 hits.

Alex Edler - 6yrs @ 5M - I am a skeptic, and I believe Edler's point total was for the same reason as Erhroff's (sedin's, PP) and I think his +/- isn't reassuring, but I would be willing to offer him Kesler's contract without the NTC as he has shown the ability to be a game changer, I would not give any more than Kesler's contract as it is already above the other top defense on the team. If he held out for more money he is our most valuable trading chip IMO.

Andrew Alberts - No contract - He was a serviceable defense man when needed but barring an amazing showing this season, I just don't see him staying on the roster, he is getting older and is no where as good a defense man as Rome was. His spot can be easily filled by one of our up and coming D prospects.

So To Conclude

Malhotra: 2M contract
Raymond: 2.275M Contract
Burrows: 24M contract
Higgins: 9M contract
Lapierre 9M contract
Ebbett: 650k max
Volpatti: 1.5M contract
Edler: 30M contract
Alberts: No contract

SO those are my thoughts, think for yourselves, what would YOU offer to our pending UFA's?

Edit: please move to Armchair GM section, I could have sworn I clicked on it.

Edited by knoxdown, 31 August 2012 - 05:25 PM.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 05:39 PM

Malhotra - 2 yrs, $3 M
Raymond - No contract
Burrows - 4 yrs, $16.4 M
Higgins - 4 yrs, $10 M
Lappiere - 2 yrs, $4 M
Ebbett - 1 yr, 650 K
Volpatti - 2 yrs, 1.4 M
Edler - 6 yrs, $30.6 M
Alberts - 2 yrs, $2 M

That is what I would do
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 05:45 PM

No more than 6 years for Burrows, but I would pretty much agree with everything you said. Though maybe sign Alberts to a 2way contract or something.

Keep Raymond.. if he slacks we can trade em.

Edited by Ryanstorm, 31 August 2012 - 05:46 PM.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 05:56 PM

Edler: 6 years, $5.65 million per
Burrows: 5 years, $4 million per
Raymond: No contract
Alberts: No contract
Ebbett: 2 years, $775K
Volpatti: 1 year, $650K
Higgins: 3 years, $2.3 million per
Lapierre: 3 years, $1.4 million per

Other UFA's to target: Perry, Lupul, Streit, Horton, Zajac, Clowe, Gagne, Zubrus, Weiss, Clarkson and Brouwer
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:29 PM

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:29 PM

no give bj by u momo

You feelin all right man?
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:33 PM

Malhotra - Walk or 1 year worth 1-1.25 million
Raymond - Walk or (if he gets 40+ points) 1-2 years at a 2.75 million cap hit
Burrows - 4 year deal worth 17 million (4.25 million cap hit)
Higgins - 3 years worth 9 million (3 million cap hit)
Lappiere - 3 years worth 4.5 million (1.5 million cap hit)
Ebbett - 1 year worth 650K
Volpatti - 2 years worth 1.4 million (700K cap hit)
Edler - 6 year deal worth 30 million (5 million cap hit)
Alberts - Walk

To OP - deals look solid and reasonable but IMO 6 year term for Lapierre isn't ideal. At 1.5 million he should get a 2-3 year deal where he can try to produce more and earn a long term contract at a higher cap hit
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:44 PM

Malhotra - 2 years / 1.5 m per
Raymond - 1 year / 1.5 m per (trade bait )
Edler - 6 years / 5 m per
Burrows - 6 years / 4/4.5 m per
Alberts - 1 year / 900k
Higgins - 3 years / 3 m per
Lappiere - 3 years / 1.5 per
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:48 PM

Why do so many of you want Malholtra for another 2 years? He's already old and not close to the same player he was before his injury, we could find a far better upgrade for the 4th line. We don't need to keep him just because of his eye injury, we never kept Ohlund because of his.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:26 PM

Sign Malhotra 2yrs/3million
Raymond can walk or we trade him, if he does good 1yr/2million
Sign Burrows 5yrs/22.5 million
Sign Higgins 3yrs/9million
Sign Lapierre 3yrs/4.5million
Ebbett can walk
Sign Volpatti 2yrs/1.6million

Sign Edler 7yrs/35million
Alberts can walk
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 09:33 PM

Why do so many of you want Malholtra for another 2 years? He's already old and not close to the same player he was before his injury, we could find a far better upgrade for the 4th line. We don't need to keep him just because of his eye injury, we never kept Ohlund because of his.


we didn't keep Mitchell due to injury either, how'd that work out for us?

Malhotra - Walk or 1 year worth 1-1.25 million
Raymond - Walk or (if he gets 40+ points) 1-2 years at a 2.75 million cap hit
Burrows - 4 year deal worth 17 million (4.25 million cap hit)
Higgins - 3 years worth 9 million (3 million cap hit)
Lappiere - 3 years worth 4.5 million (1.5 million cap hit)
Ebbett - 1 year worth 650K
Volpatti - 2 years worth 1.4 million (700K cap hit)
Edler - 6 year deal worth 30 million (5 million cap hit)
Alberts - Walk

To OP - deals look solid and reasonable but IMO 6 year term for Lapierre isn't ideal. At 1.5 million he should get a 2-3 year deal where he can try to produce more and earn a long term contract at a higher cap hit


It isn't Ideal but if we give him 6 years he MAY be a bargain for that term (think burrows' current contract)
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 09:36 PM

no give bj by u momo

I don't think u feelin good consult ur Dad about that one he wil set u straight
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 09:50 PM

Malhotra- walk
Raymond- walk
Burrows- 5 years @ 4.15
Higgins- 3 years @ 2.9
Lapierre- 3 years @ 1.4
Ebbett- walk
Volpatti- walk
Edler- 7 years @ 5.25
Alberts- walk

I've let some of those guys go because i feel some prospects will be ready to make the jump. I envision the team to look like this:

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Jensen/Rodin/Kassian
Higgins-Gaunce/Schroeder/Labate-UFA
Volpatti/Weise-Lapierre-Mallet/Sweatt/Grenier

Bieksa-Hamhuis
Edler-Garrison
Tanev-Connauton/Sauve/Mcnally

Schneider
Lack/Cannata
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 12:25 AM

Edler - 6 years @ 5.2 per
Burrows - 5 years @ 4.1 per
Higgins- 3 yrs @ 3 per
Lapierre - 3 yrs @ 1.8 per

Let the rest walk
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 12:28 AM

Manny Malhotra- 2 years @ 2 million
Mason Raymond- No Contract
Alex Burrows - 5 years @ 18.5-20 million
Chris Higgins - 3 years @ 7.5 million
Max Lapierre - 3 years @ 6 million
Andrew Ebbett - No Contract
Aaron Volpatti - 2 years @ 1.7 million
Alex Edler - 6 years @ 29.1-30 million
Andrew Alberts - No Contract
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 02:44 AM

You feelin all right man?


Vodka makes you do strange things...
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 03:14 AM

Vodka makes you do strange things...

We know :P
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 04:48 AM

Vodka makes you do strange things...


Is that what the "V" in your avatar stand for? =)
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 05:38 AM

Why do so many of you want Malholtra for another 2 years? He's already old and not close to the same player he was before his injury, we could find a far better upgrade for the 4th line.


Malhota is still a very good face-off guy and solid in his defensive play. I suspect that he will get offers from other teams for better money and duration than is being offered here.


...we never kept Ohlund because of his.


Sept. 21, 1999 - Ohlund gets an eye injury while in a pre-season game vs the Senators. He was 23 years old.

2005 - Ohlund signs a 4 year contract extension with a significant pay hike.

July 1, 2009 - Ohlund signs as a UFA with Tampa Bay. He was 33 years old.


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Posted 01 September 2012 - 06:48 AM

Malhotra: 2M contract
Raymond: 2.275M Contract
Burrows: 24M contract
Higgins: 9M contract
Lapierre 9M contract
Ebbett: 650k max
Volpatti: 1.5M contract
Edler: 30M contract
Alberts: No contract



As is always the case with these things, there's the possibility of other guys being here due to trades (from the assumed Luongo trade) or free agent signings (eg. Doan) which can affect whether or not some of these guys would be offered a new deal, and for what terms (let's call them "bubble guys"). So, with that in mind:

Alberts: bubble guy. He is a good a good depth guy with size, but with not a lot of playing time over the last three years (14 games, 42 games, 44 games) he's not looked as good as he might actually be. I suspect that Alberts will be offered more money and playing time by another team than will be offered to him by the Canucks, and I think he'll take it.

Burrows: Burrows is easily worth $4 million per season. I don't feel comfortable with the length of the term which seems a bit long. He'll be 32 when his current deal is done. I'd offer 4 years, and go on 1 year deals after that.

Ebbett: bubble guy. One year at about what he is currently making is good. Not bad as a depth guy. Small, but lots of energy.

Edler: 6 years at $5 million? Depending upon what he does next year, the money might even have to be a bit higher. Edler will be 27 when his current deal expires. I wonder if he might want a different length of term than you suggest (shorter or longer)?

Higgins: 4 years at $2.25? I would be okay with this term/amount. However, I think Higgins feels like he is worth more than the amount for which he signed last time around (which he is), and he will be looking for more money this time around. Maybe $2.5 million?

Lapierre: bubble guy. I believe Gillis will aim for something like $1.5 million (or less). I'm listing Lapierre as a "bubble guy" due to the very good chance that there's going to be a center coming back in the assumed Luongo deal and/or if Malhotra returns to form, and/or Schroeder steps up etc. I'd hate to lose this guy, but there just might not be any space for him at center. Perhaps as a winger...?

Malhotra: bubble guy. I think it all depends on what Malhotra does this year, and whether or not Gillis does pick up a center from the assumed Luongo deal, etc. If he plays at the level he was at this past season, he's still worth more than the amount you suggest. I'd say he'd be offered something closer to $1.75 - 2 million per season. If Malhotra returns to the form he had from pre-injury, he's easily worth at least $2.5 million per season. This also assumes the "home town discount".

Raymond: bubble guy. Raymond will have to perform beyond his 2010 - 11 results (15g 24a) in order to remain. He has nowhere near the value of Higgins, unless he were to once again score 20+ goals. Raymond does have a lot of skills and killer speed, but where the heck does he fit on this team?

Volpatti: bubble guy. There's always someone who is younger, bigger, stronger coming along. When the Canucks get a guy like that then Volpatti might be out of a job. Depending upon this season's results, I think Gillis would offer about $650,000.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:43 AM

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HIGGINS ($2.850m)--- / ---------------------LAPIERRE ($2.000m)---------- Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
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