silverpig, on 10 September 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:
I think the B-Line is one of the few lines that actually makes money. I think lines on Main and Victoria do it too, and a bunch of others come close to breaking even.
Oddly, the most heavily subsidized routes were in South Surrey from what I recall.
Also, they can't run the buses any more frequently. It takes 3 minutes to load an articulated bus with all sets of doors open and no fare checking.
Look, I won't deny that a line to UBC is not warranted. The Bline carries volumes on a bus that would be a dream opening number for an LRT line. It's a guaranteed sucsess. Thing is, it does nothing to help me or any of the rest of us south of the river where things are only going to get more expensive and more congested.
I also have no problem believing south surrey bus routes loose money. Here's the rub though. I can guarantee that the amount of money translink collects from the fairly dense and very high priced south surrey/white rock area from property taxes and the huge amount they collect from the gas taxes in this area would cover the losses on these bus routes several times over.
Heck, I will go out and predict that the biggest looser is the one good bus route, the 321. Don't get me wrong, it's often very packed, with people standing on a bus that was certainly not meant for it, and even in that situation it would be hard to break even given the distances it has to go. But it's still supported because translink is stuck in the 1970s and assumes everyone is commuting to downtown when that is currently not the situation. If anything it's probably been loosing market share not because people love queuing for the Alex Fraser or driving across Surrey but because the commute patterns are changing and that bus doesn't serve them.
Heck, go ahead and make a freaking fourth zone that covers Twassen, Ladner, South Surrey/White Rock, the Langleys, Pitt Meadows/Maple ridge so you can recoup some of those costs of going the longer distance. Just provide the damn service so there's a freaking alternative to the bridge Qs!
If not, I see no reason for the south of fraser residents to be in translink. We will always loose the business case, no matter how much they tax us. If we are such a burden to translink why not champion booting us out? I can assure you that whenever I talk about this to south of fraser residents they think it's a great idea!
Let's agree to disagree and get that divorce already instead of fighting over money all the time!