Gino Odjick Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Interesting theory. But I disagree. We won the President's trophy. The team fell apart in the playoffs against a great team. The Canucks were no match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Hockey Place Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Tired of reading of how LA was on a hot streak. They were a solid team and they found ways to win. Which, after the fact, is summed up as a hot streak. Tired of reading about the President's Trophy. Does anyone actually believe the Kings are complaining about their regular season performance last season? 1st place guarantees home ice advantage. Not very useful if you can't win on home ice. Tired of reading about how it's all 1 player's fault. Daniel was injured, Henrik isn't a good captain, Luongo is mentally fragile, Hamhuis/Bieksa/Edler aren't true top defenders, and somehow more fighting majors equals more goals, etc.... When it's obvious it's all based on the result. Win = good. Loss = bad. Tired of the defence of Vigneault. How there is no suitable replacement good enough. While other teams seem to find suitable replacements and improve. A 3 year contract extension? Because the players are comfortable with him? WTH? The Canucks had a poor post-season performance in 2012. They've also had less than stellar performances in the 2nd round in 2007, 2009, 2010. The Cup Finals in 2011 is the anomaly, not the other way around. The Canucks fail because they think they're better than they actually are.. That's why they act like they deserve to win. That's why there is no fight to earn it. /post-season rant 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Even without Danny we should have beat the Kings. Everyone just played so bad, the guys that looked consistent and were supposed to excel in the playoffs turned into our worst players. Phalsson was no match to shut down the Kings top 6 Kesler......... Hammer was a turnover machine and just overall bad Edler, by far the worst player on the team Bieksa was completely void of contact and a turnover machine. Salo just wasn't himself since Boston Higgy lost every puck battle and missed the net by a bus length on every shot Manny was brutal Burr spent the entire series getting lined up for highlight reel hits and couldn't finish on any point blank chances It was basically a handfull of nucks fighting a losing battle. We may as well have handed them the cup ourselved, no one else after us had a chance to stop them. Quick wasn't nearly as good as people say, he let in some softies and never had to deal with the scoring chances anyone else did. Schnieder, Smith and Brodeur all equaled his performance and were sometime better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uber_pwnzor Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 and so do all the bruins who skated around our rink with the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 We also lost Grabner at the first interval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 The Canucks fail because they think they're better than they actually are.. That's why they act like they deserve to win. That's why there is no fight to earn it. /post-season rant 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 team is built around a soft euro core. no cup for us until that changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Exhibit A: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cIutch Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 only the canucks can win a presidents trophy and fans say they had a poor season they had a poor playoffs dumb thread title = dumb thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gumballthechewy Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 only the canucks can win a presidents trophy and fans say they had a poor season they had a poor playoffs dumb thread title = dumb thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winacup Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Don't understand that argument; yeah we lost the final game, but we came about as close as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Don't understand that argument; yeah we lost the final game, but we came about as close as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Jeff Carter hasn't really impacted Kings in any meaningful way whatsoever. At least from the playoff games, and espeically against the Canucks, Carter didn't matter too much. It was Kopitar, Dustin Brown, Justin Williams, Drew Doughty, stifling defense a la Sutter and most importantly Quick that turned out to be the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Exhibit A: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehamburglar Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 We got hemmed in. We got out played. It happens, but I bet there's chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icycold Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Our defence was the biggest issue. The only reason we didn't get blown out every single game was the play of both our great goalies. Sure we couldn't score, but it all starts from us getting hemmed in our own zone because our pathetic excuse for a defence couldn't get the puck out against the L.A forecheck, and kept giving up glorious opportunities to their forwards, including countless odd-man rushes and breakaways against our netminders. Hamhuis was the only defenceman who played well, and even he at times struggled against the big Kings forwards. Our defence needs to play a much safer, more stay-at-home style and be more physical as opposed to jumping up in the rush so often and getting caught gambling because good coaches can easily exploit that - it's much harder to exploit a stay-at-home defence, which seems to be the way to win Cups nowadays. Hopefully Garrison will help in that direction, and Tanev can develop enough to become a good stay-at-home guy. I still believe we need more physicality so hopefully Alberts will draw into more contests because we really should of used his size more in the playoffs - he's the only guy who could have contested the L.A (and even Boston) giants up front, who basically cake-walked our fragile D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uber_pwnzor Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 the point is that until we replace our soft euro core we aren't going to win the cup. getting to game 7 of the scf doesn't mean squat unless you you're the team with 4 wins when the final buzzer sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Didn't Hoff take a long cap/team loyal contract vs the big $ that was expected? I definitely don't get the Torres thing, he was a beast and seemed well liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 only the canucks can win a presidents trophy and fans say they had a poor season they had a poor playoffs dumb thread title = dumb thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 "our soft euro core" who's that? Hansen, Edler and the Sedins are the only European players on the team. Hansen isn't "soft", neither is Edler. I could give you that the Sedins aren't the toughest of players, but they are the best players on our team. We're not getting rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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