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#1 palindrom

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:39 PM

I know it sound weird at first, but let me explain.....

I am a Montreal fan and i am really disappointed in the 6.500 000$ we gave Price.

Since Price is a BC native i think Vancouver could have an interest for him. He is one of the best young goalie in the league.

And the best or all, i wont ask the moon for him, my asking price is Only Lack + Jensen + 2nd. I dont want any of Schneider or Luongo back as i dont like their contract as well. And since Vancouver want to win now and Montreal is going to miss the playoff anyway, asking only for prospect is a nice fit.

According to many of their post in many thread, Vancouver fans are among the one who really know how valuable are franchise goalies. I have also often hear how a proven asset worth more than prospect with no NHL experience. So i give you the opportunity to virtually acquire a proven young franchise goalie for a bargain!!

I know you already have Luongo, Schneider and Lack, but being already set in goal never ever been an obstacle for you to propose Luongo to Florida fans who already have Theodore, resigned Clemmensen and Markstrom.

Think about it....Im getting back Lack in the proposal and Vancouver is expected to trade Luongo anyways, so after the proposal Vancouver will have Price + Schneider and could be set in goal for the next decade. Having 2 elites goalies always been one of the main reason Vancouver was successful in the past few year, so lets continue the successful formula.


So any of you would accept my proposal? Any counter offer? (Also, Lets imagine for the sake of the argument that you wont be able to Trade Price back for more than you gave me, because you gave me the best offer around the league..do you still do it ?)

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:41 PM

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:41 PM

Underpayment
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:42 PM

I would accept it and run, then we would have 3 all star goalies and two to trade, which would mean we would get an absolutely amazing return once the deals are done.
But...

- You could get alot more

- Having two goalies to trade (or even two to keep) would be really tough, and would put us back to spending too much on goalies

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:42 PM

Underpayment


Glad to hear it, how much more Vancouver should give to acquire Price then?

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:45 PM

What's the point of this proposal or even trying to give a counter offer when the guy made it clear he is exactly where he wants to be and wants to make a life there with his woman. I could see discussing players who don't openly voice their attachment to a particular place or team, but this is silly.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:45 PM

I would accept it and run, then we would have 3 all star goalies and two to trade, which would mean we would get an absolutely amazing return once the deals are done.
But...

- You could get alot more

- Having two goalies to trade (or even two to keep) would be really tough, and would put us back to spending too much on goalies


Lets imagine for the sake of the argument that you wont be able to Trade Price back for more than you gave me, because you gave me the best offer around the league..do you still do it?

But you could always trade Luongo + Schneider

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:47 PM

Lu and Schneider > Price and Schneider. Price makes too much to afford anyway.

And we certainly don't need a 3rd great goalie.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:48 PM

Literally may be the worst underpayment in history,
-Price top 5 NHL Goalie
-They would want Kesler or Edler if not both

-We don't need him.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:49 PM

Lu and Schneider > Price and Schneider. Price makes too much to afford anyway.

And we certainly don't need a 3rd great goalie.


:shock:

Sorry man but.

Luongo & Schneider < Price & Schneider
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:50 PM

Glad to hear it, how much more Vancouver should give to acquire Price then?


Jensen changed to Kesler, second changed to a mid prospect and a first
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:52 PM

How bout no
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:53 PM

Jensen changed to Kesler, second changed to a mid prospect and a first


So as a Vancouver fan you offert me Kesler, Jensen, a mid prospect and a 1st?

We have a deal man, and we are both happy.

Its so rare that fans from 2 different team agree on a deal!

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:54 PM

Literally may be the worst underpayment in history,
-Price top 5 NHL Goalie
-They would want Kesler or Edler if not both

-We don't need him.


Im confuse,

Do you accept my deal or not?

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:55 PM

A couple years ago (when Price was struggling, and pre-Cory Schneider), I kidded around that the Canucks should trade Lu for Price straight up.

Price's value to MTL is way too high and trading him would be franchise suicide.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:57 PM

Huge underpayment.... plus we have Schneider and Luongo right now.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:58 PM

A couple years ago (when Price was struggling, and pre-Cory Schneider), I kidded around that the Canucks should trade Lu for Price straight up.

Price's value to MTL is way too high and trading him would be franchise suicide.


Lets not care about that, let say according to your judgement that i am a bad GM and i give the opportunity to Vancouver to acquire Price for Jensen, lack and a 2nd (but you wotn be able to trade Price back for more, because we assume its the best offer i could find around the league for him.)

Do you accept the trade or not?
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:59 PM

Huge underpayment.... plus we have Schneider and Luongo right now.


Then how much more should Vancouver give to acquire Price? ( is it huge?)

Its one thing to say its an underpayment, but if you are not interested in him at this bargain price (no pun) its not really an underpayment.

I ask for an underpayment because i know you dont really need a goalie.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:07 PM

Scared me for a second. misleading title.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:09 PM

Lets not care about that, let say according to your judgement that i am a bad GM and i give the opportunity to Vancouver to acquire Price for Jensen, lack and a 2nd (but you wotn be able to trade Price back for more, because we assume its the best offer i could find around the league for him.)

Do you accept the trade or not?


From a pure hockey perspective, I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. If there we can move both Schneid/Lu for a decent return and address other weaknesses in the club, then I'd trade for Price. And if I were to acquire Price, I wouldn't move him anyways.

From a GM's perspective, it is a big enough headache that the Nucks haven't dealt Lu/Schneid already. It would make no sense in bringing in a 3rd starter.

I would also say that if that was the absolute best offer you could find for Price, 1) you didn't try hard enough to find a good offer and 2) you didn't learn from the Halak trade
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:11 PM

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:12 PM

Well, i think it will be more interesting to bumb this thread and talk about it, once Luongo is traded, can we agree with this?
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:14 PM

Well, i think it will be more interesting to bumb this thread and talk about it, once Luongo is traded, can we agree with this?


No, because I think the Canucks are set on Schneider and it wouldn't make sense to trade for another 70 game starter when you just got rid of one to avoid a timeshare.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:29 PM

You guys could get SO much more from a team like Toronto or Edmonton even. Price is a true gem of a goalie - every kid wants to be like him! Though you may think Price isn't doing well, trust me, it's always the guys in front of him (usually lol).
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:35 PM

Then how much more should Vancouver give to acquire Price? ( is it huge?)

Its one thing to say its an underpayment, but if you are not interested in him at this bargain price (no pun) its not really an underpayment.

I ask for an underpayment because i know you dont really need a goalie.


Although I really like Price, this deal has way too many issues.
-Bergevin's first deal as a GM wouldn't be to move a young top 5 goaltender who just signed a new deal for loose change, in comparison to who they give up for who they gain.
-If it were to happen, I can only see a package involving Schneider, 1st/2nd along with roster players and/or prospects.
-A deal involving two goaltenders with new contracts isn't happening.
-Luongo would have to be moved to shed cap and replace what we would lose in the deal.

I could see Carey Price for Cory Schneider, Niklas Jensen +, where we have a guaranteed return for Luongo. Regardless of what you think of a goalies contract, they would probably want Schneider in the deal.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:44 PM

No, I keep Ginger and Lack and I'm set in goal. Trade Lu for Bug and let Jensen develop and runt into star in few years.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:50 PM

The Habs will win 16 games next year with a goaltending tandom of Budaj and Lack.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:54 PM

Doesn't practically make sense for either side.

Price costs even more than Luongo... do you realize that? Also, the Habs obviously see Carey as their cornerstone defensively by signing him to that long term, big money deal-- why would they trade him for prospects? That just puts their development backwards.

Also, if Price comes to Vancouver, I would rather keep Lack to back Carey; Cory as the backup is quite expensive, when the team could still use upgrades in other positions. Lack on the other hand is still making very little comparatively and has upside to be very good in the near future, and Price - Lack would be much more sustainable than Price - Schneider.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 10:57 PM

:shock:

Sorry man but.

Luongo & Schneider < Price & Schneider

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 11:29 PM

Literally may be the worst underpayment in history,
-Price top 5 NHL Goalie
-They would want Kesler or Edler if not both

-We don't need him.


Are you kidding? Kesler and Edler for Price when we are already set in goal? I wouldn't even trade Kesler or Edler by themselves for Price.
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