Red-Haired_Shanks Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 edited proposals -Vancouver trades D Keith Ballard and a 2013 4th round draft pick to Philadelphia for D Brandon Manning, 2013 2nd Philly needs help on there back end with several of there core players being out with injuries. there defense as is stand is very week and and prospects aren't going to fill that void, Ballard despite being used as a bottom pairing player can move the puck well, is very fast and his hip checks are amazing. Ballard can excel in the increased minuets of Philly and possibly a top 4 d-man for them like he was with Phoenix and Florida. We get a decent defense prospect from BC and a couple of draft picks for this year and the next, we also unload Ballard's contract to free up cap space edit: -Vancouver trades 2013 2nd and F Dale Weise to Toronto for D Cody Franson's rights baring he doesn't negotiate a contract extension with the Leafs. would that be enough to get Franson away from the Leafs? sign Franson 2 years 4.5mill @2.25mill cap hit. it doesn't seem that Franson will sign with the leafs so this is our chance to steal him from them. he is a big gritty d-man who can make our back end more imposing and intimidation to play against. just the kind of guy we need plus he is from BC. -Vancouver trades G Roberto Luongo, D Yann Sauve and 2013 4th rounders to Florida for C/LW Quinton Howden, D Cody Robak, G Jose Theodore, 2013 2nd round draft pick Florida gets an allstar goalie who can carry them to the playoffs despite them losing some significant players, a projected bottom pairing d-man with size as well as 3rd and 4th round draft picks. Vancouver gets 2 B+ prospects, a Veteran Backup goalie(if he agrees to waive his NTC) and a 2nd round draft pick to replace the one we lost in the Franson signing. Howden is a big player who has potential to be a 2nd line scoring winger, Robak is a decent defensive defense man with top 4 potential. hes like Bieksa Roster after trades and point predictions: full 82 game season D.Sedin(37G, 46A, 83Pts) H.Sedin(23G, 69A, 92Pts) Burrows(32G, 26A, 58Pts) Booth(29G, 25A, 54Pts) Kesler(26G, 29A, 55Pts *62GP) Raymond(27G, 22A, 49Pts) Higgins(19G, 24A, 43Pts) Malholtra(13G, 18A, 31Pts) Hansen(12G, 20A, 32Pts) Volpatti(2G, 3A, 5Pts) Lapierre(8G, 10A, 18Pts) Kassian(10G, 7A, 17Pts) Ebbett(5G, 7A, 12Pts) Schroeder(7G, 12A, 19Pts, 24GP) Bieksa(11G, 27A, 38Pts +29) Hamhuis(7G, 29A, 36Pts, +31) Garrison(15G, 32A, 47Pts, +13) Edler(11G, 39A, 50Pts, +7) Franson(8G, 13A, 21Pts, +11) Tanev(5G, 9A, 14Pts, +19) Alberts(2G, 4A, 6Pts, +1) Schneider(2.27GAA, .923S%, 56GP, 40W) Theodore(2.56GAA, .916S%, 21GP, 13W) Lack(2.03GAA, .931S%, 5GP, 3W)*call up due to Theodre injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Leafs match the Offer Sheet. So we give up Ballard for very little and create a hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Yep, Leafs would match. Theodore also doesn't want to waive his clause to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 No to the first trade, leafs match offer sheet, no to the second trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Haired_Shanks Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 Yep, Leafs would match. Theodore also doesn't want to waive his clause to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Philly needs D so they could keep Manning. Not bad though. I would add whatever else to Ballard to get Max Talbot. And your stats prediction aren't realistic as Kassian wouldn't get 16 goals playing 4th line minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Haired_Shanks Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 Philly needs D so they could keep Manning. Not bad though. I would add whatever else to Ballard to get Max Talbot. And your stats prediction aren't realistic as Kassian wouldn't get 16 goals playing 4th line minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 true i expect a lot from kassian i will adjust the points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Ballard and a 1st Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Booth(29G, 25A, 54Pts) Kesler(26G, 29A, 55Pts *62GP) Raymond(27G, 22A, 49Pts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Haired_Shanks Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 Raymond getting 27 goals? Well, I guess one can wish.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Ballard and a 1st Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 i think he will have a bounce-back year. this is a make or break year for him if he doesnt perform he will be done for and if he does than we get a good player. i still believe in mayray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 It's almost like there wasn't an impending lockout or something on the horizon. Proposals need to stop being made, short of a Christmas miracle, 8 days of Hanukkah miracles, the rebirth of Allah and the Dalai Lama single handedly ending Chinese oppression of Tibet, the NHL will be locking out the NHLPA come September 15th, 2012. Now, I'm no seer and I cannot predict the future, but what I can predict is the trending behaviour of both parties to continue for the foreseeable future. Both sides are digging in and preparing for trench warfare. This lockout will more than likely cause the entire loss of the 2012-2013 season. What does this have to do with proposals? Everything, if the season is lost to lockout all these "injuries" teams are facing are rendered moot with the individuals essentially having an entire calendar year to recuperate. Even if the season starts late which would be a miracle in itself, there would still likely be time for players to properly recoup. On the flip side of that, it would benefit us in that contracts signed carry forward, so Mason Raymond could spend an entire season playing in Europe somewhere, gain his confidence back and have that "bounce back" season we're all so hoping he might have. Likewise, this situation could prove helpful to Kassian, Jensen and Shroeder and Gaunce. If the owners win their salary roll back request, and the cap goes down significantly we could still potentially have a helluva team if Raymond, Kassian, Jensen, Shroeder and Gaunce all emerge. I close off this rant by giving this proposal a solid two thumbs down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 the leafs wouldnt move franson for that, mind you if luongo went to toronto he would probably be part of the return. and theres no way defence starved philly trades a defenceman for keith ballard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Haired_Shanks Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 It's almost like there wasn't an impending lockout or something on the horizon. Proposals need to stop being made, short of a Christmas miracle, 8 days of Hanukkah miracles, the rebirth of Allah and the Dalai Lama single handedly ending Chinese oppression of Tibet, the NHL will be locking out the NHLPA come September 15th, 2012. Now, I'm no seer and I cannot predict the future, but what I can predict is the trending behaviour of both parties to continue for the foreseeable future. Both sides are digging in and preparing for trench warfare. This lockout will more than likely cause the entire loss of the 2012-2013 season. What does this have to do with proposals? Everything, if the season is lost to lockout all these "injuries" teams are facing are rendered moot with the individuals essentially having an entire calendar year to recuperate. Even if the season starts late which would be a miracle in itself, there would still likely be time for players to properly recoup. On the flip side of that, it would benefit us in that contracts signed carry forward, so Mason Raymond could spend an entire season playing in Europe somewhere, gain his confidence back and have that "bounce back" season we're all so hoping he might have. Likewise, this situation could prove helpful to Kassian, Jensen and Shroeder and Gaunce. If the owners win their salary roll back request, and the cap goes down significantly we could still potentially have a helluva team if Raymond, Kassian, Jensen, Shroeder and Gaunce all emerge. I close off this rant by giving this proposal a solid two thumbs down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Roster after trades and point predictions: full 82 game season D.Sedin(37G, 46A, 83Pts) H.Sedin(16G, 70A, 86Pts) Burrows(32G, 26A, 58Pts) Booth(26G, 19A, 45Pts) Kesler(28G, 23A, 51Pts *62GP) Raymond(20G, 15A, 35Pts) Higgins(16G, 20A, 36Pts) Malholtra(6G, 8A, 14Pts) Hansen(10G, 11A, 21Pts) Volpatti(2G, 3A, 5Pts) Lapierre(8G, 10A, 18Pts) Kassian(8G, 7A, 15Pts) Bieksa(8G, 25A, 33Pts +29) Hamhuis(5G, 27A, 32Pts, +31) Garrison(11G, 25A, 36Pts, +13) Edler(10G, 42A, 52Pts, +7) Franson(5G, 17A, 22Pts, +11) Tanev(3G, 12A, 15Pts, +19) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnieds Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Yes, that's exactly what Philly needs, another defenceman who has trouble staying healthy. Yes, Philly needs D, but they don't need Ballard. Only reason Ballard is still in the NHL is cuz he signed a 6 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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