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mrsasaki

Weise or Volpatti?  

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Depends what we're looking for. If we're looking for someone to fight, it's Volpatti. If we're looking for someone who can provide a little offense and play meaningful fourth line minutes it's Weise.

Volpatti is at the age where he's either going to become a regular NHLer, or it's never gonna happen. He's shown a good fighting ability, but his offense is very limited.

Weise on the other hand is still young enough that he's got room to grow. He's shown at lower levels that he can put up numbers while providing physicality. And he has a willingness to drop the mitts, he just has to work on his technique.

I would say it's gotta be Weise if he can become a regular physical presence and improve on his fighting ability.

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Why would it matter when they played in the AHL? Yes, Weise was in the AHL while Volpatti was in college. The fact is they both have obviously played there and they both did for a period of time in 2010-2011. Volpatti with 11 points in 53 games; Weise with 38 points in 47 games. Aside from actually evaluating the two individually, which is near impossible unless your part of an organization with scouts at your disposal, for example, I would say Weise is a better player now, including at the NHL level, and he certainly will be in down the road.

As mentioned above, this can also be backed up by: 1) Weise, who is a few years younger is thriving in a league much tougher to play in than the one Volpatti is in. 2) When you do compare their AHL stints, Weise was clearly the better player.

We also know that Volpatti is currently banking in on one year of college success. Without that 32 points in 37 games, it's highly doubful he was ever even offered a contract by the Canucks, or any other NHL club for that matter. A dozen points by an overager at the college level certainly isn't cutting it for the NHL.

I'm not trying to be a hard ass on the guy. He is currently living his dream. Great for him. If he can continue to make the team down the road, even better. But I'm just being a realist here.

In defense of Weise, he really didn't back out against Thornton. He had no intent of fighting that occasionally useful otherwise useless tit. Weise intended to fight McQuaid, Thornton challenged him instead, Weise goaded that oaf into dropping his gloves; pretty good move on his part.

http://bigbadblog.we...ise-dale-weise/

And Weise had already fought caveman Horton prior to that.

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Doesn't mean you have to win, a draw is enough for a borderline hit. Just pop em in the mouth and get em off the ice. Most of the players that are abusing our stars are small and lousy fighters anyway. In the case of really dirty damaging hits, like Keith on Daniel, Marchand on Salo, most of our players could beat the crap outta either of them. I see no reason for a fair fight though in those situations, two hand em in the back of the leg and then start throwin.

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Also I would like to see both players put on 10 lbs. I think it would make a hell of a difference to their game. (same applies to Pinizzotto and Desbiens )

Volpatti. Could prevent further injury and give him an edge over some of the medium heavies. It would also make him more of a handful in front of the net. Volpatti at 6'-0" and 225 lbs would be a bigger hitter and stronger fighter.

Note. Is Volpatti really 1lb heavier than Kassian?

Weise. He has pushback but I think it is badly hampered by his size. At 6'-2" and 210 lbs he he is not heavy enough to get away with his inferior pugilistic skills.......

We could have a 4th line of

Volpatti - Lapierre - Weise/Desbiens/Pinizzotto

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Pinizotto.

This guy was way ahead of both these 2 on the depth chart before his injury. The only reason Volpatti played an NHL game was because of Pinizotto going down, and the main reason Weise played so much was because of Volpatti's injury.

Pinizotto brings less toughness than Volpatti, more than Weise, can probably hit better than either of them but is far more skilled offensively and a much better skater. I'd say he could score around 7 goals, 25 points if given a full season despite playing bottom-6 minutes. This guy is quite underated, even on our team.

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Pinizotto.

This guy was way ahead of both these 2 on the depth chart before his injury. The only reason Volpatti played an NHL game was because of Pinizotto going down, and the main reason Weise played so much was because of Volpatti's injury.

Pinizotto brings less toughness than Volpatti, more than Weise, can probably hit better than either of them but is far more skilled offensively and a much better skater. I'd say he could score around 7 goals, 25 points if given a full season despite playing bottom-6 minutes. This guy is quite underated, even on our team.

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Pinizotto.

This guy was way ahead of both these 2 on the depth chart before his injury. The only reason Volpatti played an NHL game was because of Pinizotto going down, and the main reason Weise played so much was because of Volpatti's injury.

Pinizotto brings less toughness than Volpatti, more than Weise, can probably hit better than either of them but is far more skilled offensively and a much better skater. I'd say he could score around 7 goals, 25 points if given a full season despite playing bottom-6 minutes. This guy is quite underated, even on our team.

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Mine goes like this:

1. Desbiens

A legit light-heavyweight. Fights include Crombeen, M. Kassian, Bissonette, Boll, Stoner and McLeod. Only lost two, one being against M. Kassian who I would give the league heavyweight belt to (13 NHL fights, no losses). Unlike most heavyweights he is actually a pretty good offensive player. In 09-10 he had only 4 less points than Sergei Shirokov in 9 less games played. He has potential to be a Shawn Thornton type player which aren't easy to come by.

2. Pinnizotto

Looked great in training camp last year. He brings more or less the same as Volpatti in terms of hitting and fighting but has more offensive upside.

3. Weise

4. Vopatti

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