Canuck Surfer Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Count my first vote on this subject as Byron Bitz. But if restricted to the choices Patti. Commenting on one of your points. I agree there was some mis-management last year. Kassian (who will be better) should have played himself into shape on Chicago. He took a spot that deservedly belonged to Bitz. And we could have brought up AHL all star Connauton instead of playing Gragnani down the stretch. I understand they were trying to determine if Grag's was worth keeping, but it took an NHL paycheque from a guy (IMO) who deserved it more. Volpatti. Weise is a plug. Would much rather have had Duco playing for us than Weise. Disappointed he wasn't resigned, or played over Weise for that matter. Stupid cap management has caused our bottom lines and prospects some real disservice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Weise by far, a lot more skill and still brings the checking game and will fight if needed. It just goes to show you the lack of hockey IQ on this board picking Volpatti over Weise. Weise has the skill to be able to fill in on the 3rd line without hurting that line, Volpatti would be lost on the 3rd line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Weise has 8 points in 78 career games, which is hardly any better than Volpattis 3 in 38. Neither of them are close to being a 3rd line calibre player, both would bring down our 3rd line vastly. Volpatti fits the 4th line player mold more than Weise does, he is more aggresive, a more willing fighter, a better fighter, and more tenacious. Weises marginally better offensive talent and marginally better hockey sense do not make up for the edge Volpatti has in physicality. In all honesty neither are particularly good 4th liners, but based on his aggresive style and fighting ability alone I would say Volpatti is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 our 4th line requires grit and for them to punish players either in fights or big hits. Volpatti is a better fighter and bigger hitter than weise but weise is the more skilled player. but for a 4th line roll we dont need skill. id choose volpatti my dream would be to have our prospects fill in our 4th line wing spots so they can develop toughness. something like Jensen-Lapierre-Kassian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Fatigue Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Put "Neither" as an option, it'd get my vote. Probably many others', too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 How many of you still would prefer "Glass man" Byron Bitz? Even though I like Weise, I'm hoping Pinizzotto can have a good showing in pre-season again. Without getting hurt this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Weise was also in his rookie season with plenty of room to improve and develop. Volpatti is a fringe NHLer with energy, that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogolol Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Honestly, I don't remember much of how good Volpatti was other than his fights so I can't choose. I say let them battle it out in training camp who gets the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Pretty much. In 2 years or so Weise might be a good 4th liner, he has the potential. But as of right now I would rather see Volpatti in the line-up over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 From a developmental point of view it makes no sense to repalce Weise with Volpatti. You either play them both or you remove Volpatti and put him back in the AHL where he's a fourth liner at best. Weise has already proven himself at the AHL level and putting him back there really accomplishes nothing other than taking a dump all over the work a guy has already put in proving himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoewsables Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Can't believe Volpatti is winning this poll.. Weise is clearly a better player in every area of the game aside from fighting while being 3 years younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Weise by far, a lot more skill and still brings the checking game and will fight if needed. It just goes to show you the lack of hockey IQ on this board picking Volpatti over Weise. Weise has the skill to be able to fill in on the 3rd line without hurting that line, Volpatti would be lost on the 3rd line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLocke Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Has to be the stupidest statement I have read today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Weise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Path Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 From a developmental point of view it makes no sense to repalce Weise with Volpatti. You either play them both or you remove Volpatti and put him back in the AHL where he's a fourth liner at best. Weise has already proven himself at the AHL level and putting him back there really accomplishes nothing other than taking a dump all over the work a guy has already put in proving himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanwincup Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Has to be the most stupid use of a made up word I have read today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Both Weise-Manny/Lapps-Volpatti But if I had to choose, I definitely go with Weise, I think he has way more potential and played pretty damn good for the most part last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Path Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 To all those saying they'd rather have Weise. Think about it for a second. Do you want your fourth line to worry about getting scoring chances or having a good forecheck and playing a gritty, aggressive style that might intimidate the opponent? If you ask me I'd rather have the latter, a fourth line which can bang and a guy who can actually win a fight on it, which is why my pick would be Volpatti by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy_cheung14 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Volpatti tougher, better fighter...Weise more offence, skilled.........imo REMEBER after VOLPATTI went down WEISE was our only tough,rough, fighter guy and HE FOUGHT VS BRUINS... my vote goes to weise, but playoffs volpatti might be more effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 i think weise has the potencial to be a decent 3rd liner. also he got a little raise and if he thinks he will get more next time he will need to prove his worth. I think him and Lappy play well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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