Jump to content

Welcome to canucks.com Vancouver Canucks homepage

Photo
* * - - - 3 votes

Canucks get MacKinnon 1st overall or No Lockout.

Discussion

  • Please log in to reply
90 replies to this topic

#1 WHL rocks

WHL rocks

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,615 posts
  • Joined: 09-May 10

Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:01 AM

The NHL rules state that in event of a cancelled season all teams get a chance to select 1st overall next year. After the last lockout the Pittsburgh Penguins won the lottery and selected Sidney Crosby 1st overall, Canucks got the 9th pick and selected the now departed Luc Bourdon (RIP).

Next year's 1st overall pick is projected to be a great one. Nathan MacKinnon is surely going to be a superstar.

Are you willing to give up the NHL season due to lockout if Canucks got MacKinnon next year? Would a lock out make it worth missing a season of hockey for you?

For me, I would not mind it at all. As previously declared I am on the owners side in the CBA dispute. If the owners got a good deal out of the lockout and the Canucks got MacKinnona at next years draft I would look back at it as a positive. Not that it need be said but no MacKinnon I take the season, obviously.

What say you! Hypothetical question. No hockey future superstar or hockey and no superstar.

Edited by WHL rocks, 12 September 2012 - 02:27 AM.

  • 0

#2 Baggins

Baggins

    Canucks Franchise Player

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,927 posts
  • Joined: 30-July 03

Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:12 AM

*
POPULAR

The NHL rules state that in event of a cancelled season all teams get an equivalent chance to select 1st overall next year. After the last lockout the Pittsburgh Penguins won the lottery and selected Sidney Crosby 1st overall, Canucks got the 9th pick and selected the now departed Luc Bourdon (RIP).

Next year's 1st overall pick is projected to be a great one. Nathan MacKinnon is surely going to be a superstar.

Are you willing to give up the NHL season due to lockout if Canucks got MacKinnon next year? Would a lock out make it worth missing a season of hockey for you?

For me, I would not mind it at all. As previously declared I am on the owners side in the CBA dispute. If the owners got a good deal out of the lockout and the Canucks got MacKinnona at next years draft I would look back at it as a positive. Not that it need be said but no MacKinnon I take the season, obviously.

What say you!


So if we didn't get the first pick you'd hop in your time machine and make the players settle? :lol:
  • 6
Posted Image

#3 Hobbes!!!

Hobbes!!!

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,986 posts
  • Joined: 07-May 03

Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:14 AM

Well McKinnon would be amazing to have but I have no idea what I'm going to do with myself with no hockey. Once was enough. I can't go through this lockout thing again. Ahhhhhh
  • 1


#4 WHL rocks

WHL rocks

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,615 posts
  • Joined: 09-May 10

Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:18 AM

So if we didn't get the first pick you'd hop in your time machine and make the players settle? :lol:


No I don't have one of them yet. Working on it though. Until then I just use my imagination to move back and forth thru time.
  • 0

#5 nuck nit

nuck nit

    Canucks Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,592 posts
  • Joined: 27-June 10

Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:27 AM

*
POPULAR

Odds are slim.
I go with playing the NHL season.
I am getting older and so are the Sedins.
  • 17

#6 brewdog

brewdog

    Comets Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 356 posts
  • Joined: 30-June 12

Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:32 AM

*
POPULAR

Ok, I'm rewriting this because I've rethought it.

In a world where time machines exist... if we got this kid and he single-handedly won us the Cup in his rookie year, I might feel ok about missing a year of hockey.

In the real world, though, I just want to watch hockey. I don't care if we don't win the Cup next year or the year after. Every season is filled with hundreds of special hockey moments. Those are the things I look forward to each summer. A shot at a Cup is just a nice bonus for me.

Edited by brewdog, 12 September 2012 - 01:38 AM.

  • 10

#7 WHL rocks

WHL rocks

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,615 posts
  • Joined: 09-May 10

Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:39 AM

Odds are slim.
I go with playing the NHL season.
I am getting older and so are the Sedins.

Would I approve missing a whole year of hockey, and aging our elite core by another year to secure a 3% chance of drafting a kid who would very likely spend 2-3 years in our farm system? Is that really the question?

Are you interested in buying some waterfront property in Greece?


The question is If we got MacKinnon. Not a "chance to get" MacKinnon. Would you look back and say the lockout was worth it?

Ofcourse no one would want to throw away the season for a marginal chance, that would be non sensical.
  • 0

#8 brewdog

brewdog

    Comets Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 356 posts
  • Joined: 30-June 12

Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:40 AM

The question is If we got MacKinnon. Not a "chance to get" MacKinnon. Would you look back and say the lockout was worth it?

Ofcourse no one would want to throw away the season for a marginal chance, that would be non sensical.


Yes yes, please disregard what I wrote there. I rewrote my post.
  • 0

#9 Ossi Vaananen

Ossi Vaananen

    Canucks Third-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,819 posts
  • Joined: 25-April 12

Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:47 AM

It's not an all equal chance.... it's determined in part by the preceding 3 years performance. In this respect, Columbus, Edmonton and NYI are right up there. Yes, we would have a name in the ballot but by no means would we have an equal chance to these three aforementioned teams.
  • 0

2d7ye0p.jpg

 

Credit to -Vintage Canuck-


#10 WHL rocks

WHL rocks

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,615 posts
  • Joined: 09-May 10

Posted 12 September 2012 - 02:28 AM

It's not an all equal chance.... it's determined in part by the preceding 3 years performance. In this respect, Columbus, Edmonton and NYI are right up there. Yes, we would have a name in the ballot but by no means would we have an equal chance to these three aforementioned teams.


Thanx. Word equal removed from op.
  • 0

#11 Neufy161

Neufy161

    Comets Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 616 posts
  • Joined: 01-August 11

Posted 12 September 2012 - 02:39 AM

gah, it would suck... I've already prepared myself for no season, I would do it.
  • 0

Oh hello Alain Vigneault, I see what you did there... good one.

Posted Image

Signature by (>'-')>


#12 White Goodman

White Goodman

    Comets Prospect

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 145 posts
  • Joined: 30-July 12

Posted 12 September 2012 - 02:56 AM

i dont think i would be. With the Sedins getting older we could start to slip in standings and our cup chances could be smaller. Having said that, it could be good for guys like Kesler to get themselves right and help develop guys like Schroeder and Jensen.
  • 1
Posted Image

#13 Gooseberries

Gooseberries

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,391 posts
  • Joined: 09-January 10

Posted 12 September 2012 - 03:36 AM

Ok, I'm rewriting this because I've rethought it.

In a world where time machines exist... if we got this kid and he single-handedly won us the Cup in his rookie year, I might feel ok about missing a year of hockey.

In the real world, though, I just want to watch hockey. I don't care if we don't win the Cup next year or the year after. Every season is filled with hundreds of special hockey moments. Those are the things I look forward to each summer. A shot at a Cup is just a nice bonus for me.

this. way to lead by example.
  • 0

20u7nh3.jpg

Credit to Vintage Canuck

The Sig lord


#14 Moonshinefe

Moonshinefe

    Canucks Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,039 posts
  • Joined: 15-March 11

Posted 12 September 2012 - 03:42 AM

Ok, I'm rewriting this because I've rethought it.

In a world where time machines exist... if we got this kid and he single-handedly won us the Cup in his rookie year, I might feel ok about missing a year of hockey.

In the real world, though, I just want to watch hockey. I don't care if we don't win the Cup next year or the year after. Every season is filled with hundreds of special hockey moments. Those are the things I look forward to each summer. A shot at a Cup is just a nice bonus for me.


I feel the same way... it's weird seeing people throw temper tantrums on this site when we don't win it all, I think Canucks hockey has been at its best in years and years since the Sedins have started dominating. A cup would be amazing but I'm also glad to be the fan of an elite team who dominates and wins more than any team in the regular season the last two years.
  • 0

#15 YaK

YaK

    Canucks Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,910 posts
  • Joined: 27-June 06

Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:18 AM

*
POPULAR

No, because Tim Thomas wins.
  • 9
Posted Image
"It felt almost like it was a dream," Burrows said of his game-winner.
"But guys jumped on me and I couldn't breathe, so I knew it was right."

#16 Gooseberries

Gooseberries

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,391 posts
  • Joined: 09-January 10

Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:27 AM

No, because Tim Thomas wins.

arrrrrh your right, never thought of it like that.
  • 0

20u7nh3.jpg

Credit to Vintage Canuck

The Sig lord


#17 nuck nit

nuck nit

    Canucks Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,592 posts
  • Joined: 27-June 10

Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:53 AM

The question is If we got MacKinnon. Not a "chance to get" MacKinnon. Would you look back and say the lockout was worth it?

Of course no one would want to throw away the season for a marginal chance, that would be non sensical.

Yeah,but that is all there is so this is non sensical.Trust me.
  • 0

#18 Niloc009

Niloc009

    Canucks Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,731 posts
  • Joined: 12-October 09

Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:41 AM

Yeah,but that is all there is so this is non sensical.Trust me.


So talking about hypotheticals isn't allowed anymore. Got it.


And I'd take MacKinnon. With the lack of top end talent in our system, we need someone like that.
  • 0

Posted Image


STHS Hockey League - Brooklyn Beavers GM


#19 Garrison

Garrison

    Comets Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 851 posts
  • Joined: 04-July 12

Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:36 AM

A league favorite will win Mckinnon, that isn't us.
  • 0

#20 EmployeeoftheMonth

EmployeeoftheMonth

    Canucks All-Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,398 posts
  • Joined: 04-September 06

Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:40 AM

Yeah,but that is all there is so this is non sensical.Trust me.


Look Nuck Nit this is a public forum and people ar allowed to post whatever they would like within the rules.

If you have a problem with that perhaps you should leave.

Sound familiar?
  • 0
Posted Image
Posted Image

#21 Caboose

Caboose

    Canucks Franchise Player

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,658 posts
  • Joined: 01-September 10

Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:41 AM

This isn't even a question.

Potential superstar or a season of hockey?
  • 0

Jq9Htab.jpg

 


#22 RUPERTKBD

RUPERTKBD

    Canucks All-Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,134 posts
  • Joined: 23-July 04

Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:48 AM

Hmmm...I'm not sure I like our chances in a lottery....

Heck, we couldn't even win the one where it was just us and the Sabres...
  • 0
Orland Kurtenbach and Dennis Kearns had just been torched 8-1 by the Habs, but they still took time to come out to meet us, some fellow BC boys who were playing hockey in Montreal. THAT"S what being a Canuck is!

#23 avelanch

avelanch

    Canucks Hall-of-Famer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 32,975 posts
  • Joined: 23-March 07

Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:01 AM

with the 2005 lottery rules in effect this is how it would go:
Each team begins with three balls in the lottery barrel. For every playoff appearance in the last three years or No. 1 overall pick over the last four years, a team loses one ball.

3 ball teams
CALGARY
DALLAS
TORONTO

COLUMBUS
WINNIPEG
CAROLINA
MINNESOTA

2 ball teams
NY ISLANDERS
ANAHEIM
COLORADO
ST. LOUIS
TAMPA BAY
FLORIDA

1 ball teams
EDMONTON
PITTSBURGH
PHILADELPHIA
BOSTON
WASHINGTON
NY RANGERS
VANCOUVER
SAN JOSE
DETROIT
NASHVILLE
PHOENIX
LOS ANGELES
CHICAGO
NEW JERSEY
BUFFALO
OTTAWA
MONTRÉAL

That means we'd have a 1 in 50 (2%) chance to get 1st overall... I'd rather have the season.

Edit, missed the 4 year lookback for 1st overall picks, meaning the iles should have 2, not 3 balls.

Edited by avelanch, 12 September 2012 - 08:11 AM.

  • 4

#24 Wilbur

Wilbur

    Canucks Prospect

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,252 posts
  • Joined: 02-December 03

Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:05 AM

....
That means we'd have a 1 in 51 (1.96%) chance to get 1st overall... I'd rather have the season.

I agree. I'd add to that the Canucks have a better than 1.96% chance to win the cup next year
  • 0

#25 TACIC

TACIC

    Canucks Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,311 posts
  • Joined: 03-May 12

Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:05 AM

Well it is Nathan Mackinnon......
  • 0
Posted Image
Credit to JimLahey for this awesome sig

TACIC

Yes i am a Leafs fan too, DEAL WITH IT!!

#26 avelanch

avelanch

    Canucks Hall-of-Famer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 32,975 posts
  • Joined: 23-March 07

Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:13 AM

I agree. I'd add to that the Canucks have a better than 1.96% chance to win the cup next year

yup, even though I missed the 4 year lookback for 1st overall picks, making the actual chances 2%, we still have a MUCH greater chance at winning the cup.
  • 0

#27 Tangerines

Tangerines

    Canucks Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,313 posts
  • Joined: 18-January 12

Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:15 AM

Odds are slim.
I go with playing the NHL season.
I am getting older and so are the Sedins.


is that you shane?
  • 0

#28 Alchemy Time

Alchemy Time

    Canucks Third-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,799 posts
  • Joined: 31-January 12

Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:16 AM

Let's put it this way... In 2010-11, would you have traded that season for RNH, Landeskog, Huberdeau or Larsson? I'm not sure I would.
  • 0
Posted Image

#29 wizott

wizott

    K-Wing Regular

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 26 posts
  • Joined: 01-June 09

Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:49 AM

its a win-win in my opinion. If there is a season, that's great, if not a legitimate chance a 1st overall pick
  • 0

#30 avelanch

avelanch

    Canucks Hall-of-Famer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 32,975 posts
  • Joined: 23-March 07

Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:53 AM

its a win-win in my opinion. If there is a season, that's great, if not a legitimate chance a 1st overall pick

2% is legitimate?
  • 1





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Canucks.com is the official Web site of The Vancouver Canucks. The Vancouver Canucks and Canucks.com are trademarks of The Vancouver Canucks Limited Partnership.  NHL and the word mark and image of the Stanley Cup are registered trademarks and the NHL Shield and NHL Conference logos are trademarks of the National Hockey League. All NHL logos and marks and NHL team logos and marks as well as all other proprietary materials depicted herein are the property of the NHL and the respective NHL teams and may not be reproduced without the prior written consent of NHL Enterprises, L.P.  Copyright © 2009 The Vancouver Canucks Limited Partnership and the National Hockey League.  All Rights Reserved.