Nail Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Should I still continue with my scouting reports or should I stop with Chimon basically covering them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimon Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Should I still continue with my scouting reports or should I stop with Chimon basically covering them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimon Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 2014 VHL Entry Draft Rankings - #11-20 11. Eric Carlsson Position: Defence Height: 6’2” Weight: 171 lbs Nationality: Sweden 2013-14 (Djurgarden J20): 33-13-40-53, +32 2013-14 (Djurgarden): 1-1-0-1, +1 ...Very steady stay-at-home defenceman despite the gaudy J20 numbers...Very impressive skater, not lacking in stamina or strength...Very defensively sound and a surprisingly good hitter...Can make a great outlet pass on occasion...Works extremely hard and is a fantastic teammate... ...Hockey sense is marginal and doesn’t possess much of a shot...Needs to fill out his still-growing frame to be effective in North America... Projected career role: Shut-down defenceman, top-4 potential ETA: 4-5 years ========== 12. Dmitry Rybin Position: RW/LW Height: 6’2” Weight: 191 lbs Nationality: Russia 2013-14 (Mytischenskie - MHL): 28-24-19-43, +26 2013-14 (Atlant - KHL): 9-0-0-0, -5 2013-14 KHL Playoffs: 3-0-0-0, -1 ...Played very well against his own age group, but wilted against tougher competition in the KHL...Has incredible strength...Is a very consistent player...Very hard-working player with good leadership qualities – Likely to wear an ‘A’ or ‘C’ at the next level...Has an average shot... ...Jack of all trades, master of none...NHL upside is questionable... Projected career role: Two-way forward, top-9 potential ETA: 5-7 years ========== 13. Johnny Tapani Position: LW/RW Height: 6’2” Weight: 174 lbs Nationality: Sweden 2013-14 (Kingston): 61-39-52-91, +39 2013-14 OHL Playoffs: 14-13-17-30, +12 2013-14 Memorial Cup: 3-1-3-4, +2 ...Has the quickest first-steps in this year’s draft class bar none...Gets around the ice smoothly with great wheels...Fantastic forechecker...Is a complete team player...A natural goal scorer with a very good shot...Hits with power and purpose...Can play at both ends of the rink... ...Offensive upside is still to be determined as his hockey sense is only average...Not the best passer...Tends to be too stationary in the offensive zone and has trouble finding open ice... Projected career role: Two-way forward, top-6 potential ETA: 4-5 years ========== 14. Connor Bleackley Position: C/RW Height: 6’2” Weight: 200 lbs Nationality: Canada 2013-14 (Red Deer): 63-56-58-114, +56 2013-14 WHL Playoffs: 12-16-12-28, +10 ...Above average skater...hockey sense is incredible...very creative player in terms of setting up plays...Finds open ice with relative ease...Can shoot or deflect a puck equally well...Has a good projectable frame for the NHL... ...Has bouts of inconsistency...Doesn’t work as hard as some coaches and scouts think he should...Average defensively... Projected career role: Two-way forward, top-6 potential ETA: 3-4 years ========== 15. Serge Korolev Position: D Height: 6’3” Weight: 187 lbs Nationality: Russia 2013-14 (Ufa - MHL): 4-1-1-2, +2 2013-14 (Salavat Yulajev - KHL): 38-0-0-0, -5 2013-14 KHL Playoffs: 13-0-0-0, -1 ...The quickest defenceman in the draft without a doubt...Has the ability to skate the puck out of trouble...Very sound in his own end, but prefers to use his intelligence and stick over making punishing hits despite having incredible strength...Fearless; typically the first player to go into a corner and retrieve a dump-in...Passing is average, but has a fairly dangerous slapshot... ...Went pointless in 38 games against pros (albeit with limited minutes)...Offensive awareness and hockey sense are below average... Projected career role: Skilled defensive defenceman, #2-3 potential ETA: 2-4 years ========== 16. Hakan Nyberg Position: C Height: 6’2” Weight: 185 lbs Nationality: Sweden 2013-14 (Djurgarden J20): 26-28-25-53, +29 2013-14 (Djurgarden): 17-4-4-8, +6 ...Put up unreal numbers in the Swedish junior leagues and received a promotion to the men’s team, where he continued his impressive play in a limited role...Has a great top-end speed and respectable strength...Is a very good teammate and good work ethic...Has a good selection of shots and an adept passer...Hockey sense is above average...Fantastic hand-eye coordination for tipping pucks in front of the net... ...Needs to improve his fitness level...defensive awareness is marginal...Poor faceoff man despite playing the position... Projected career role: Skilled offensive forward, top-6 potential ETA: 3-4 years ========== 17. Blake Clarke Position: C Height: 6’4” Weight: 202 lbs Nationality: USA 2013-14 (Green Bay - USHL): 58-34-25-59, +14 ...A fantastic two-way talent...first few steps can leave an opponent flat-footed...Has the strength and size to be an effective power forward...Forechecks very well...Shot and passing ability are above average...Capable of opening up space for himself or teammates...produces when the heat is on... ...Somewhat easy to knock over despite his projectable frame...Not a particularly physical player given his strength...Sometimes gets lost defensively...faceoffs ability is below average...Doesn’t play as aggressively as he should or could... Projected career role: Power forward, top-6 potential ETA: 4-5 years ========== 18. Michal Magnusson Position: C/LW Height: 6’5” Weight: 183 lbs Nationality: Sweden 2013-14 (Timra J20): 36-47-53-100, +60 ...Put up arguably one of the greatest performances in the history of the Swedish junior league...A wonderful skater who could give Alexej Tikhonov (Ranked #8) a run for his money...Possesses elite acceleration, speed, and balance that makes every player on the ice look like they’re playing in mud...Has a lean body but surprising strength...Is a dynamic package that merges spectacular hockey sense and an NHL-ready offensive game (Shot, puckhandling, passing)...A faceoff specialist to boot...Could very well challenge for the top-3 pick... ...A direct transition to the NHL is questionable as he has yet to play against adults...Fitness/stamina is a definite concern...Mostly a perimeter player despite his physical gifts... Projected career role: Dynamic two-way forward, top-line potential ETA: Immediate-1 year ========== 19. Andrej Kryukov Position: RW Height: 6’0” Weight: 176 lbs Nationality: Russia 2013-14 (Spartak - KHL): 49-4-5-9, -4 ...Another fantastic skater in the mold of Tikhonov/Magnusson...Has embarrassed many a defencemen with his one-on-one moves...Is the kind of player who is capable and confident of his ability to dangle an entire team, go back, and do it again...Can play some defense, though not naturally inclined...Has excellent focus, concentration, and an professional attitude thanks to his stint in the KHL... ...Not an effective finisher despite all that speed and talent...Has been labelled as a ‘selfish’ player by some because of his tendency to want to try and take on a team singlehanded...Rumored to have been given a massive offer by a KHL team to remain in Russia... Projected career role: Elite forward, top-line potential ETA: 2-3 years ========== 20. Bohus Mikus Position: LW Height: 5’11” Weight: 158 lbs Nationality: Slovakia 2013-14 (Kosice - Svk Extraliga): 24-6-12-18, +4 2013-14 (Bardejov - Svk 2nd Division): 30-22-26-48, +16 ...Probably the most experienced ‘pro’ draftee in the first round, having spent the entire season playing on mens teams in Slovakia’s professional circuit...Is a speed demon who can really turn on the afterburners...Almost impossible to knock him off the puck...Fairly well-rounded in all aspects of the game...Plays a highly aggressive game and is adept at forcing turnovers during a forecheck...Very mature, hard working, and professional player...Already wears a letter as an 18-year old for his mens club...high offensive awareness...Great checker and hitter...Equally adept at distributing or firing the puck... ...Incredibly frail at 158 lbs...Major concerns about the wear and tear he would go through in an 82-game NHL season... Projected career role: Elite two-way forward, top-6 potential ETA: 1-2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion Phaneuf Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Nice rankings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Chimon will be providing us with write-ups on the top 30 players ! I'll also be doing a set of rankings on NHL 13 and I will be explaining how scouting will work with NHL 13 soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimon Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Wait so how many different scouting things are we getting? first it was nail with his chl players, now chimon with an ehm created class, and now a class created out of NHL 13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 My impression was that UMB and Yakupov were both doing rankings based on NHL13 (UMB with N.A. players, Yakupov with Euros), and I was doing the EHM thing. If it's like that, then this is going to be a big draft class...Whoever has the most picks is going to have a blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanev Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Where's Josh Ho Sang? Projected Top 5 draftee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimon Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Where's Josh Ho Sang? Projected Top 5 draftee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 So can we have UMB.Chimon and Nail all come up with a draft class that is combined to avoid some confusion ??? PS CHimon this is who i was talking about. From a earlier report, his name is Adam Roberts.. 1. Sam Reinhart - C - [sNP] 11/06/95 6'2/187 - R 2. Aaron Ekblad - D - [OFD] 2/7/96 6'3/207 - R 3. Jake Virtanen - RW - [PLY] 8/16/96 6'0/180 - R 4. Adam Roberts - D - [DFD] 1/14/96 6'9/235 - L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 So can we have UMB.Chimon and Nail all come up with a draft class that is combined to avoid some confusion ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gally Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 It would be nice so we know if we have a top 5 draft pick or a 5th rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimon Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Eh, you guys/SOB decide. If you want intersperse players from Yakupov/UMB's rankings into the EHM list then go ahead. I don't know how to rank players from different systems relative to each other, especially when I don't know much about the players on Yak's list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Eh, you guys/SOB decide. If you want intersperse players from Yakupov/UMB's rankings into the EHM list then go ahead. I don't know how to rank players from different systems relative to each other, especially when I don't know much about the players on Yak's list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB for MVP Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 Exactly. I say we use one system or the other to supplement real life prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 personaly i like the videos umb uploaded, which was chimon. would rather use that to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 What I had originally planned - since we know little about the '14 prospects I had planned for this: Nail Yakupov combs through the whl, ohl and qmjhl bantam/midget drafts Chimon does a simulation on EHM, posts the 2014 draft rankings I will do the european rankings on NHL 13, as well as add a list on the chl for secondary reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimon Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 What I had originally planned - since we know little about the '14 prospects I had planned for this: Nail Yakupov combs through the whl, ohl and qmjhl bantam/midget drafts Chimon does a simulation on EHM, posts the 2014 draft rankings I will do the european rankings on NHL 13, as well as add a list on the chl for secondary reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB for MVP Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 Will be simming soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigmund.Palffy Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Penguins have a much needed 4 day rest , they wont be playing tonight , all players will be well rested for the next game vs Islanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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