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#1 D.Doughty

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 08:27 PM

"For Canuck fans asking, and many are, there will not be an Alex Edler extension prior to midnight."@TSNBobMcKenzie

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 08:33 PM

Maybe he'll sign at 12:00AM...PST :bigblush:

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 08:33 PM

there's not going to be a season so no rush

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 09:00 PM

12:01 i call it
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 09:14 PM

I really wanna know what is holding it up, edler doesnt strike me as the kinda guy who wants to get the most money he possibly can but maybe im wrong....if im wrong then we got a big problem on our hands

6 years at 5.5m per...whats wrong with that?!?!?

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 09:57 PM

I'm curious about how the Canucks value Edler. There's 29 other teams that are lining up and some even willing to give insane offers for the young defense man. While, I think Gillis and company are still pondering those offers. Detroit and Philly are notables looking for their number 1 defense man. Since he's a Canuck, the team question about his inconsistencies, but at the same time hockey as a whole, know that even with Edler's inconsistencies that he is still one of the brightest young defense man in the league today.

There's already three defense man that are already locked up - Hamhuis, Garrison, and Bieksa. Ballard, also has a big contract, but whether he is movable, we don't know. Now, we're all assuming Edler is going to get a big payday, so you have to wonder if the Canucks would rather go for someone else, maybe a player that in "their" eyes that is more consistent or perhaps, a few younger players and a cheaper top four that may be enough for them.

Detroit is desperate. Would not be surprised the slightest bit if Detroit goes all in, if Brendan Smith and Johan Franzen are part of a package to lure Edler. How could Vancouver not consider it?

and don't get this post out of context. I don't want Edler traded, and if he were indeed traded, I think I'd consider jumping wagons.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 09:58 PM

6 years at 5.5m per...whats wrong with that?!?!?


Edler is inconsistent and doesn't deserve 5.5 or more. Yea he is our best blue line point producer, but he isn't a star dman that deserves that much. Dmen like Duncan Keith, Kronwall, Myers, Carlsson, Subban, and others, are much more consistent than Edler, and giving him their type of money (Talking about Keith essentially as he gets just above 5.5) doesn't make sense. He hasn't yet been able to shine above the rest like how the players listed above have, and I personally think he's overvalued on our team, though he is a solid dman, just not worth 5.5




This pretty much sums it up:

I'm curious about how the Canucks value Edler. There's 29 other teams that are lining up and some even willing to give insane offers for the young defense man. While, I think Gillis and company are still pondering those offers. Detroit and Philly are notables looking for their number 1 defense man. Since he's a Canuck, the team question about his inconsistencies, but at the same time hockey as a whole, know that even with Edler's inconsistencies that he is still one of the brightest young defense man in the league today.


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Posted 15 September 2012 - 10:21 PM

no rush..... whenever he does sign i would do no more than 5 yrs $25 M
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 10:24 PM

4.6 per year or bust :bigblush:

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 10:26 PM

Edler has Erhoff disease. Getting easy points on the PP with the Sedins makes him think hes worth 6 million bucks a year. The other possibility is he doesnt want to play here anymore.
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 10:28 PM

Edler is inconsistent and doesn't deserve 5.5 or more. Yea he is our best blue line point producer, but he isn't a star dman that deserves that much. Dmen like Duncan Keith, Kronwall, Myers, Carlsson, Subban, and others, are much more consistent than Edler, and giving him their type of money (Talking about Keith essentially as he gets just above 5.5) doesn't make sense. He hasn't yet been able to shine above the rest like how the players listed above have, and I personally think he's overvalued on our team, though he is a solid dman, just not worth 5.5




This pretty much sums it up:


Much more consistent? You have to consistently watch them on a nightly basis, which I doubt you do, to even make that statement. Subban being a perfect example of this: Over the last two seasons since PK has only been around that long .. he is not more physical than Edler, isn't as much of a shot blocker as Edler, hasn't tallied as many points as Edler and is a massive giveaway machine in comparison. So, he's better how, exactly? Because he shows more flash? Yeah, that's worked out so well for PK at times.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 10:32 PM

Definitely a possibility of him walking and ending up in Detroit.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 10:36 PM

I would sign Edler for 6 years at 34.5 million.

Edler will be the teams star defensemen if he isn't all ready. He will be the leader of the defensemen like Hamhuis and Bieksa are now, but even more so.

Lock him up long-term, he deserves to be the highest paid D-man on our team.
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 10:40 PM

To Florida:

Edler
Luongo
Van 2nd 2013


To Van:

Gudbransson
Bjugstad
Florida 1st 2013
Mattias

Thoughts?

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:04 PM

Edler has Erhoff disease. Getting easy points on the PP with the Sedins makes him think hes worth 6 million bucks a year. The other possibility is he doesnt want to play here anymore.


Exactly what I think of it as well.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:26 PM

To Florida:

Edler
Luongo
Van 2nd 2013


To Van:

Gudbransson
Bjugstad
Florida 1st 2013
Mattias

Thoughts?


Sorry but no chance.

Edler likely gets us Gudbranson.

But if Florida wouldn't give up Bjugstad for Lu, why would they give up Bjugstad, a 1st, and Matthias for Lu and a 2nd?

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:36 PM

Sorry but no chance.

Edler likely gets us Gudbranson.

But if Florida wouldn't give up Bjugstad for Lu, why would they give up Bjugstad, a 1st, and Matthias for Lu and a 2nd?


Throw in Raymond too

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:47 PM

Much more consistent? You have to consistently watch them on a nightly basis, which I doubt you do, to even make that statement. Subban being a perfect example of this: Over the last two seasons since PK has only been around that long .. he is not more physical than Edler, isn't as much of a shot blocker as Edler, hasn't tallied as many points as Edler and is a massive giveaway machine in comparison. So, he's better how, exactly? Because he shows more flash? Yeah, that's worked out so well for PK at times.


This.

There really isn't many consistent defense mans in the league anymore. People just don't understand it. They hear from the media that "Player X" is good, and all of a sudden join the crowd without knowing a thing. It's unfortunate because I honestly don't think most people know what Edler brings to the table, until he's gone. Which is quite sad.

For people, who say that Edler think he's worth 6 Million bucks? Well, face the facts, some team will give him that money. Right from the top of my head, think Matt Carle. 6 Year at 5.5 Average. Edler is twice the defense man Carle is.

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 12:55 AM

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 08:42 AM

Edler is inconsistent and doesn't deserve 5.5 or more. Yea he is our best blue line point producer, but he isn't a star dman that deserves that much. Dmen like Duncan Keith, Kronwall, Myers, Carlsson, Subban, and others, are much more consistent than Edler, and giving him their type of money (Talking about Keith essentially as he gets just above 5.5) doesn't make sense. He hasn't yet been able to shine above the rest like how the players listed above have, and I personally think he's overvalued on our team, though he is a solid dman, just not worth 5.5


1) myers and subban are far more eratic then edler....did u watch tsn last year!?!?! every day there was a segment on subban and his play

2) keith is an all star d-man and edler will never match up against him

3) if wisniewski can get 5.5m then edler sure as hell can...if edler hit the open, you cant sit there honestly say teams wont throw 6.5m+ per at him

he is worth 5.5-6m, he knows he could get more on the open market but gillis wants him at 4.6m and thats the dilemna they have right now
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 09:29 AM

Edler is inconsistent and doesn't deserve 5.5 or more. Yea he is our best blue line point producer, but he isn't a star dman that deserves that much. Dmen like Duncan Keith, Kronwall, Myers, Carlsson, Subban, and others, are much more consistent than Edler, and giving him their type of money (Talking about Keith essentially as he gets just above 5.5) doesn't make sense. He hasn't yet been able to shine above the rest like how the players listed above have, and I personally think he's overvalued on our team, though he is a solid dman, just not worth 5.5




This pretty much sums it up:


Keith is making 8 million per as he has a couple of BS years tacked onto the end of his Luongo like contract. Add to that that he signed his contract a few years ago when the cap was a fair bit lower.
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 09:37 AM

I think edler is the dark horse to be dealt

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 11:15 AM

Much more consistent? You have to consistently watch them on a nightly basis, which I doubt you do, to even make that statement. Subban being a perfect example of this: Over the last two seasons since PK has only been around that long .. he is not more physical than Edler, isn't as much of a shot blocker as Edler, hasn't tallied as many points as Edler and is a massive giveaway machine in comparison. So, he's better how, exactly? Because he shows more flash? Yeah, that's worked out so well for PK at times.

Which is one of the reasons why Montreal got Galchenyuk and we got the Presidents Trophy

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:04 AM

Deal him. We can get a lot back. Perhaps a Bobby Ryan in a 1 for 1 swap?

Worst case scenario we let him walk, which would suck, but it wouldn't be the worst thing if he's asking for an arm and a leg. Plus we have prospects up and coming who are itching for a chance to prove themselves.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:28 AM

Edler

Bertuzzi
Helm

Luongo
Raymond
1st
Malhotra

Gudbranson
Matthias


Sign Raycroft


Sedin Sedin Bertuzzi
Booth Kesler Burrows
Higgins/Lapierre Helm Hansen
Higgins Matthias Kassian

Hamhuis Bieksa
Garrison Gudbranson
Ballard Tanev

Cory
Raycroft

We go for it and him and the adult Sedins take over the show.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 11:06 AM

Edler is inconsistent and doesn't deserve 5.5 or more. Yea he is our best blue line point producer, but he isn't a star dman that deserves that much. Dmen like Duncan Keith, Kronwall, Myers, Carlsson, Subban, and others, are much more consistent than Edler, and giving him their type of money (Talking about Keith essentially as he gets just above 5.5) doesn't make sense. He hasn't yet been able to shine above the rest like how the players listed above have, and I personally think he's overvalued on our team, though he is a solid dman, just not worth 5.5


Every defensemen you listed (save Kronwall) is either 1. more inconsistent than Edler (yes I include Keith in this), or 2.) really young / had one good year. How can you say Subban or Karlsson are more consistent when they've only been around a couple of years?

Edler is super underrated. Like the song says, you don't know what you've got til' it's gone.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 12:10 PM

Keep Edler.
Sexy trade ideas, yes, but he is entering his prime, could become 60 point defenseman and could develop his D and become a shutdown guy. We don't know what his ceiling is.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:50 PM

"Just heard Edler was smoking blunts with Gillis & going over the numbers"...@MugsyMalone
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