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#1 cIutch

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 05:40 PM

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I Personally think they do. They have far less games to play (maybe) , time for kesler to heal , some rookies who may need that whole season can play in the AHL and stay sharp . Besides chemistry I don't see how a temporary lockout can hurt the canucks , if anything it lets there vets rest and there younger players (kassian , schroeder , tanev) play big minutes for the wolves

i know this can be said about many teams but for the canucks a team thats been on that verge of a cup with two back to back presidents trophys , i see it meaning alittle more

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 05:42 PM

No. We won't have enough time to recover from our "slow starts" even though Kesler will probably be back.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 05:53 PM

I think the Canucks do not benefit from the lockout unless it costs them the entire season. In that case, we have a chance to move up in the draft, just like in 05 when we were slotted 10th. Even if we get low-balled and receive a late first rd pick, it's a snake draft so if we got the 30th pick, we'd also recieve the 31st pick as well and with this being such a deep, and talented draft, wherever we draft will surely benefit us.

It's a win-win if this year's draft is a snake draft.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 05:55 PM

Depends.
If it's for the whole season then a big no, our core isn't getting any younger.
If it is until Christmas, then yes. Our prospects will have hopefully improved due to playing more minutes during that time, and since our core is pretty much the same as last year there shouldn't be a long period where they have to adjust to a different style of game.
That being said, I would rather have a full season than a shortened one with a small benefit to the team.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 05:55 PM

I think the Canucks do not benefit from the lockout unless it costs them the entire season.

can you elaborate on that?

i do like the draft scenario , altho i think we will still be shafted some how
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:04 PM

yeah i agree with what you said. it gives kesler time to heal and won't hurt us because he wouldnt be playing and it gives the rookies development time :)
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:18 PM

If it lasts the entire season then no, everyone would age, and our roster consists of mostly players that are in their prime. Plus Luongo would age which could effect his trade value.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:20 PM

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no one wins in a lockout. not you, not me, not anyone. i want my hockey now!
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:32 PM

this team is currently a top team in the league. giving other teams a chance to improve while our first line ages another year is not a good idea.

also having a year off hockey is just generally terrible.

Edited by NoShowWilly, 17 September 2012 - 06:33 PM.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:34 PM

the only type of team that benefits from a lockout is a team like the oilers... they have a YOUNG core that has a year to mature and grow while not having to worry about the rigors of the regular season... they arent playing against guys like weber and chara night in and night out - and their is a good chance they will all be a little more filled out by next season.

the canucks on the other hand? we have an aging core (mainly daniel henrik and bieksa) and they are really in their prime right NOW - not next season... what will the sedins learn playing in the swedish league? they really don't have anything to learn.

the canucks cup window is closing, and the lockout doesn't even come close to benefiting us, UNLESS the season starts late and we get around 50ish games played... then the only benefit is a healthy kesler, less games to lose key guys to injury, and a fresher team come playoffs - but every other team gets those last 2 advantages as well
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:35 PM

No October
Less Away Games
Healthy Roster

All with an elite Goalie tandem and Defense core. Our offense isn't bad either.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:51 PM

No October
Less Away Games
Healthy Roster

All with an elite Goalie tandem and Defense core. Our offense isn't bad either.


No no.. It's pretty bad lol

Especially come playoff time :)

Unless of course you're talking about no-defense SanJose
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:54 PM

No, they do not benefit from the lockout besides the Kesler situation.

Damn you lockout! I was so looking forward to the Bruins game this December and all others games against our rivals. :(
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 07:02 PM

No, because they won't be able to lift Lord Stanley.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 07:23 PM

no good can come from this. Our older players loose a year while in their prime. Our younger players loose a year of development against nhl calibre talent. Our prospects will not feel much. Its another season ( if fully cancelled ) we dont get the cup. No Good
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:04 PM

First one to take Bettman's keys and throw it down a manhole and then shout "Bettman! You're locked out!" wins a million dollars.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 09:33 PM

Duncan Keith will have a pulse for another year, so no.

Edited by CanucksSayEh, 17 September 2012 - 09:33 PM.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 09:51 PM

no good can come from this. Our older players loose a year while in their prime. Our younger players loose a year of development against nhl calibre talent. Our prospects will not feel much. Its another season ( if fully cancelled ) we dont get the cup. No Good

do you really think this will last the whole season?

Edited by cIutch, 18 September 2012 - 01:24 PM.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 10:26 PM

The result of the lockout will mean less player salaries which will basically cover the Aquilini equalization payments that go to the teams which are causing this lockout in the first place.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 10:39 PM

Duncan Keith will have a pulse for another year, so no.

hopefully a long punishing series of games this year will be the answer.

Edited by McElroy, 17 September 2012 - 10:39 PM.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 10:40 PM

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:16 AM

A partial lockout is the best thing that could happen for the Canucks. We now have relatively old core players who are constantly banged up and whose biggest issue is combatting fatigue. Cut a couple of months of our season and we'll hit our peak just as playoffs start, not in February.

A full lockout however is the worst thing that could happen. We lose a year of our core player's prime and our window is immediately shortened. These Canucks have about 3 or 4 years left in their window before they start struggling to make the playoffs against their young, competitive conference rivals and cutting 1 year off that will hurt.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:30 AM

no one wins in a lockout. not you, not me, not anyone. i want my hockey now!


Agreed.............I can't believe this is happening again and so soon. Can an Independent Arbitration Tribunal not be set up to look at the resolving of these issues before the season starts.
I love my hockey and I like to watch the AHL and my local team Fife Flyers ..............but it is nothing like watching NHL hockey......I'm sick fed up!!!

As for will it benefit us ..............No it won't. Kes is injured, the rest of them should be well rested. Let's get Manny and Raymond on the ice, let's see how Schroeder does, let's see how Garrison knits into the defensive set up, let's see what the weight difference has made to Kass's stamina............we need to see where we are, what we have, and what we need to get.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:59 AM

Lockouts, bottom line, are a lack of a collective bargaining (ed) agreement. A key problem is that the union is also made up of card carrying millionaires who play in Phoenix, Nashville, Carolina...

Trust me the owners in those locations (who loose their $200 MILLION investment in retraction) and their players are all lining up to get money from the Snyder's and Aquilini's of the world. The fact that 40% of the unions players, and 40% of owners with voting rights at meetings, play in these locations mean this conversation is critical to a solution; not the problem. We are in waaaaaay too deep to call it a problem!

But it's a dooozy of a conversation!





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But do I feel sorry for the owners, Aquilini or others? Not a chance; they split up all the $200 million dollar franchise fee's and network TV revenue!

The result of the lockout will mean less player salaries which will basically cover the Aquilini equalization payments that go to the teams which are causing this lockout in the first place.


Edited by Canuck Surfer, 18 September 2012 - 04:03 AM.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:59 AM

They should be fully rested and ready to go once it starts again. But this also means Kings have a bigger chance of repeating.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:09 AM

I think it's good for us, the Canucks never do well early on, Kesler is gonna be out for a few months yet, and it gives the goaltending situation more time to settle out.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 06:31 AM

Shortened season? Yes, the Canucks benefit.

A entire season lost? Nope!
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 07:06 AM

As far as Kes and time to recover - yes. And I also do think there was a bit of a burnout factor that comes with short off seasons after they'd depleted everything in the tank. So, to some degree, yes (as they should be chomping at the bit and fully rejuvenated). But they're also slow out of the gates at times and the dust settles so it could have the reverse effect.

Time will tell. Unfortunately.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 07:18 AM

I'm glad Kes gets more recovery time. But the Sedins get older and so does everyone else. It will be good for Kassian to get some playing time with the Wolves tho
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 07:59 AM

As long as the season isn't 30 games. The leafs always have a good first 30 games, oh wait when they play the nucks in the finals they will be on their loosing streak :towel:
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