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#91 playboi19

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:08 PM

ok good, how is that related to the OP?

thanks for that input, then i'd sue his egotistical ass and take his 4 million, because clearly he can't handle a few chirps. Also, if he can't handle a few chirps from an anonymous person on twitter, I wonder how easily the Bruins got in his weak head.

You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Do you understand that players chirp each other constantly in the dressing room and on the ice. He would sooner sue you for stalking him, before he would have to lift a hand and put you in your place.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:29 PM

Again this comment is for the original poster and anyone else taking issue with what the players make - fact is you will never be able to play the game at the level they do hence the reason they make so much while us "common folk" make 50k a yr etc.

Last time I checked we live in a democracy with free speech - you have the right to express your opinion and the players have the right to block you on social media - move along and find another hobby and like I said before if you really want to show them how upset you are boycott hockey when it comes back.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:03 PM

I'm sorry, but these guys are probably being harassed by thousands of angry strangers on Twitter. I don't blame them for blocking you.

Right, wrong, or indifferent you come across as a giant d-bag.

Exactly, that's what I've been trying to get across to the OP. He's too adept at ignoring that so he can continue with his hypothesis that they blocked him because his 'honest' tweets got under their skin and that's why they blocked him. The tweets are there for all to see (I posted them on page two) and it's clear any public figure can't respond to or read all tweets and they'll happily block people who spam them to lessen all the notifications. Add to that he was clearly antagonistic and it was a quick decision for them regardless of facts or not.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:05 PM

I understand where the OP is coming from, but the way he is saying it makes him sound like a complete tool. The players give up everything to entertain us. We do not own them, which some fans seem to feel they do. They deserve a wage which will compensate what they give up. Imagine the job of having to be noticed everywhere you go, scrutinized for everything, watched for your every action, risk life threatening injuries, and may even have symptoms that last a lifetime. They move away from their families, sometimes miss major family events, and everything. Yes, it is their choice. But that choice should still be compensated accordingly.

Do they make too much? Maybe. But the reason most players make too much is dumb owners who pay too much for players. Yes, revenue is increasing. But the owners seem to see more money they are making and then spend it on ridiculous contracts. I don't blame a player that is offered a ridiculous contract, I would take it too. Humans, like many other species, are naturally greedy. We want more, always.

I don't blame Kes, Kev or Luo for blocking you one bit. I would of too. They have to hear ignorant fans all day that think they own them. We don't. Yes, we buy the tickets. But like they choose to play hockey, WE choose to buy the tickets.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:18 PM

I understand where the OP is coming from, but the way he is saying it makes him sound like a complete tool. The players give up everything to entertain us. We do not own them, which some fans seem to feel they do. They deserve a wage which will compensate what they give up. Imagine the job of having to be noticed everywhere you go, scrutinized for everything, watched for your every action, risk life threatening injuries, and may even have symptoms that last a lifetime. They move away from their families, sometimes miss major family events, and everything. Yes, it is their choice. But that choice should still be compensated accordingly.

Do they make too much? Maybe. But the reason most players make too much is dumb owners who pay too much for players. Yes, revenue is increasing. But the owners seem to see more money they are making and then spend it on ridiculous contracts. I don't blame a player that is offered a ridiculous contract, I would take it too. Humans, like many other species, are naturally greedy. We want more, always.

I don't blame Kes, Kev or Luo for blocking you one bit. I would of too. They have to hear ignorant fans all day that think they own them. We don't. Yes, we buy the tickets. But like they choose to play hockey, WE choose to buy the tickets.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:57 PM

You do realize that not a single Canucks player has signed overseas as they see it as stealing another players job and will only do it if things look dire. You may also see that a group of players do not dictate the full decisions that the NHLPA makes in these negotiations. Just like Acquillini most likely is not really in favor of a lockout as the Canucks make a lot of money for him each year.
Bieksa also went on record as feeling bad for the people who will be losing jobs, and mentions the cutbacks at rogers arena.

They blocked your account because you were trolling them with a sense of victimization and entitlement.

These are players who have taken discounts as apposed to asking for what they would get on the open market...

A large portion of Canucks that can afford renting ice time at UBC are still practicing daily to keep in shape for your sorry ass when hockey comes back, Effectively pumping money back into the community.

Say what you will about Malkin, and Nash, etc. but the Canucks are handling this handsomely.


These are players who getting $5 million a year to play a game we all played for fun as kids. Yes, they have to deal with demanding travel, media pressure, etc... but they are still getting millions to play a game. I don't hate Kesler or Bieksa for blocking the OP or want to see them traded but I do agree with the OPs opening paragraph and have little respect for either the players or owners in this lockout.Lots of people have had to take paycuts in these tuff economic times, mill workers near me voted to take a paycut recently so they can keep the mill open and keep their jobs. The old CBA was designed to flow the economy, the players agreed to this when they signed the old CBA so its a bit late to start whining now.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:04 PM

I understand where the OP is coming from, but the way he is saying it makes him sound like a complete tool. The players give up everything to entertain us. We do not own them, which some fans seem to feel they do. They deserve a wage which will compensate what they give up. Imagine the job of having to be noticed everywhere you go, scrutinized for everything, watched for your every action, risk life threatening injuries, and may even have symptoms that last a lifetime. They move away from their families, sometimes miss major family events, and everything. Yes, it is their choice. But that choice should still be compensated accordingly.

Do they make too much? Maybe. But the reason most players make too much is dumb owners who pay too much for players. Yes, revenue is increasing. But the owners seem to see more money they are making and then spend it on ridiculous contracts. I don't blame a player that is offered a ridiculous contract, I would take it too. Humans, like many other species, are naturally greedy. We want more, always.

I don't blame Kes, Kev or Luo for blocking you one bit. I would of too. They have to hear ignorant fans all day that think they own them. We don't. Yes, we buy the tickets. But like they choose to play hockey, WE choose to buy the tickets.


Sir, Your post makes it seem like we as fans are responsible for their actions....no?I think not. Each player has a choice to play or not play. Do not think for minute that when they hit the ice its for "US" lol
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:09 PM

Frankly, if the owners complain about spending too much money on players, they have no one to blame but themselves.

Redden, Gomez, Vanek, Leino, Campbell, Bouwmeester... The list goes on for players who may be decent players but were OFFERED ridiculous contracts by the GM/OWNERS. They would have been brain-dead to decline the offers they got.

That is why contracts are getting out of control. Once that first horrible contract is signed in the off-season, it is used as a bench mark for the rest of the summer in most cases and leads to highly inflated salaries.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:27 PM

I am no longer a fan of those players and I for one hope to see Kesler and Bieksa traded. Character can be shown in many ways, they have shown me theirs. I know I will get flamed for this but before you do think about what I said, how they reacted, and what it suggests about them as people.


I went quote your entire post, due to space, but it was a good one. Well done.

Nobody's saying that the players shouldn't do all they can to earn all they can. That's not the point. The point is that the fact that it's even come to this is beyond ridiculous. Seriously, these players still have a WAY better deal than the NFLPA does, and the NHL isn't even on the same planet as the NFL is, in terms of popularity and profitability.

Just get a freaking deal done. I'm really not on either side, they're both incredibly arrogant, the owners basically want to squeeze some more cash from the players because they can, the players want to create a strong union (which is a facade) and often forget that their league is barely relevant at all outside of Canada and Sidney Crosby can walk down any street in almost any city in the United States and not be recognized.

No sympathy to the players, at all.

EDIT: just an FYI, there are numerous public accounts of Kesler being a major d-bag in real life (somewhere on this site, actually, I think). I have a few friends that traveled with the team's run in 2011. Kesler is just not a good guy, according to them. They never mentioned anything about Bieksa, so he probably wasn't anything special. Supposedly the friendliest guys on the team, at the time, were Ehrhoff and the Sedin's.

Edited by King of the ES, 19 September 2012 - 02:47 PM.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:30 PM

Bieksa is one of the toughest fighters in the league. He would destroy you with minimal effort.


Yeah, if his opponent is Viktor Stalberg or Patrick Marleau.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:47 PM

Exactly, that's what I've been trying to get across to the OP. He's too adept at ignoring that so he can continue with his hypothesis that they blocked him because his 'honest' tweets got under their skin and that's why they blocked him. The tweets are there for all to see (I posted them on page two) and it's clear any public figure can't respond to or read all tweets and they'll happily block people who spam them to lessen all the notifications. Add to that he was clearly antagonistic and it was a quick decision for them regardless of facts or not.


Right and you still don't get my point

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:18 PM

Yeah, if his opponent is Viktor Stalberg or Patrick Marleau.

Or Mike Richards, Paul Gaustad, Gregory Campbell, Barnaby, Nichol, Thorburn, Staubitz, Penner, Tootoo, Ference. That's just 3 season's worth of his fights.

Don't hate on Bieksa for beating down guys like Marleau who act tough and drop the gloves first.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 05:26 PM

Just that he didn't block me but I mentioned it was another account, to which there was no response but he didn't proceed to then block that one, which says ok I got your point. Bieksa and Kesler blocked the second account within minutes lol

I guess they can't handle the truth


Or maybe they dont care about some rich guy who's calling them idiot for the lock out when they aren't even on the negotiation committee? And have little to no say in the negotiation. Maybe you should stop acting like a pompous #$&@! and wait for the season to a) start or B ) get cancelled

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:11 PM

Or maybe they dont care about some rich guy who's calling them idiot for the lock out when they aren't even on the negotiation committee? And have little to no say in the negotiation. Maybe you should stop acting like a pompous #$&@! and wait for the season to a) start or B ) get cancelled


Waaaaaa :sadno: someone critisized my hero

And apply your comment to them

Maybe they should stop acting like pompous a$$es and the players as a whole accept that they have it the best out of every stakeholder here ex 7 owners.

1. Players making millions

2. Ticket prices through the roof - Stakeholder = Fans, getting raked over the coals, so much so a guy making 50k a year can't take his family to a game anymore - why? See #1

3. 23 Owners losing money - see cause in number 1. Stakeholders : owners and fans losing, raises ticket prices, owners still not turning a profit

4. Concessions, other staff, restos, bars, : Losing with no hockey, no jobs, most of these people earning very little, can't afford to lose jobs.

5. Players in Europe, getting paid much less, now losing their jobs to Ovi, Malkin, Thornton, and on, who are already millionaires, few of the players in Europe are, its the low end guys who will be cut.

So...

Again, who is winning here, and who is losing? Players give a crap about the fans? The game? No, they give a crap about their wallets and egos.

And this was the point of my original post, kinda read between the lines of their actions and the actions of their brothers whom they support.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:29 PM

It's their right to earn their fair share. A 24% paycut for an OWNER to earn more is preposterous. Kudos to these players for standing by their principles. Hell, they could've gone with the same CBA for another year and negotiate during the year, but instead, the owners want a huge ass piece of the pie.

I'll stop here because you'll twist my words anyways and cry for the injustices of the common man when in actuality you're bitching that you don't get to use your season tickets. Some saint.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:28 PM

Waaaaaa :sadno: someone critisized my hero

And apply your comment to them

Maybe they should stop acting like pompous a$$es and the players as a whole accept that they have it the best out of every stakeholder here ex 7 owners.

1. Players making millions

2. Ticket prices through the roof - Stakeholder = Fans, getting raked over the coals, so much so a guy making 50k a year can't take his family to a game anymore - why? See #1

3. 23 Owners losing money - see cause in number 1. Stakeholders : owners and fans losing, raises ticket prices, owners still not turning a profit

4. Concessions, other staff, restos, bars, : Losing with no hockey, no jobs, most of these people earning very little, can't afford to lose jobs.

5. Players in Europe, getting paid much less, now losing their jobs to Ovi, Malkin, Thornton, and on, who are already millionaires, few of the players in Europe are, its the low end guys who will be cut.

So...

Again, who is winning here, and who is losing? Players give a crap about the fans? The game? No, they give a crap about their wallets and egos.

And this was the point of my original post, kinda read between the lines of their actions and the actions of their brothers whom they support.


What about "they aren't a part of the committee" is hard for you to understand. So what u say especially when u spam them like you did matters very little to them and you shouldn't cry for being blocked after acting like a douche towards them. And they aren't my heros, they aren't even my favorite players. And ticket prices aren't high because of the players since its the owners throwing out money they don't have. I do agree they players should take a cut but it needs to be more gentle ex. Next season 54% hrr and over a five year term drop to 47% but the owners need to make cuts as well ex. Getting rid of useless personnel, and cutting bettmans $8 mill salary, and folding and moving teams that are doing terrible financially over a certain amount of time and putting that money into the league to help good teams that are going broke. That way you gain more revenue and help grow the good teams which spread the game since people want to see talent. Now you can go on about taking jobs from the khl but I don't think that point is valid since they can only go 3 over their 25 player cap and its it like make so much that a temporary job lose/layoff will effect their lifestyle since they may get some kind of pay from the khl. You can't blame the player for feeding off of stupid owners who try to beat each other since a revenue tied cap was their idea and they should have made the revenue split more equal last time even though I doubt that would make them happy since they would probably want more of the revenue. Bars and restaurants won't miss a stride since hockey hungry people will flood any bar that plays minor league games for their local teams farm club or other sport. All the smart business/ resturant owner will make some form of special to fill their restaurant. Not many arena workers will lose their jobs exept the ice guys, since and empty arenas will require more repairs and may even make jobs for construction crews for upgrades to arenas that are otherwise overlooked because of games.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:47 AM

What about "they aren't a part of the committee" is hard for you to understand. So what u say especially when u spam them like you did matters very little to them and you shouldn't cry for being blocked after acting like a douche towards them. And they aren't my heros, they aren't even my favorite players. And ticket prices aren't high because of the players since its the owners throwing out money they don't have. I do agree they players should take a cut but it needs to be more gentle ex. Next season 54% hrr and over a five year term drop to 47% but the owners need to make cuts as well ex. Getting rid of useless personnel, and cutting bettmans $8 mill salary, and folding and moving teams that are doing terrible financially over a certain amount of time and putting that money into the league to help good teams that are going broke. That way you gain more revenue and help grow the good teams which spread the game since people want to see talent. Now you can go on about taking jobs from the khl but I don't think that point is valid since they can only go 3 over their 25 player cap and its it like make so much that a temporary job lose/layoff will effect their lifestyle since they may get some kind of pay from the khl. You can't blame the player for feeding off of stupid owners who try to beat each other since a revenue tied cap was their idea and they should have made the revenue split more equal last time even though I doubt that would make them happy since they would probably want more of the revenue. Bars and restaurants won't miss a stride since hockey hungry people will flood any bar that plays minor league games for their local teams farm club or other sport. All the smart business/ resturant owner will make some form of special to fill their restaurant. Not many arena workers will lose their jobs exept the ice guys, since and empty arenas will require more repairs and may even make jobs for construction crews for upgrades to arenas that are otherwise overlooked because of games.




You think cutting Bettman's salary will fix the problem? There's an 8 mil hole hey? wow just wow

Your lack of business savy is unbeleivable. Go learn why they put a term on the cap last time. To see if either side was getting screwed by the agreement then to correct it.

You fail to understand the only reason players get paid is because fans go and owners pay 150 mil min for a team. They put up the capital risk they deserve and honest chance to make a profit, otherwise why buy a hockey team? Then what happens? No players paid, no league right..follow the logic buddy.

I blame the players for not accepting reality, that they are being paid too high for the business to survive. In most industries what happens in that case?

1. Paycuts - 1st step
2. Layoffs (cant happen in hockey really) - 2nd if pay cuts dont work
3. Businesses go under - happens if 1/2 don't stem the tide

why dont you i love my player fans understand simple business logic. Hockey teams are not some magical right in north america, that owners owe us to put a team in that constantly loses money. Eventually they will say frack this, and no one esle will want to buy a business that loses money.

What then? Players gonna complain about 4 mil for 40pts?

Edited by BuretoMogilny, 20 September 2012 - 12:54 AM.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:21 AM

In response to the OP's criticism of the 'greed' of the owners and the PA, the owners want to cut X% of pay around the league. Consider that X% to be 10% for the sake of argument. Now, since the median yearly salary you suggest is $50,000 and the employee making such an amount is subject to a 10% pay cut, their income is dropped to $45,000. An NHLer making minimum salary of $500,000 yearly is forced to take a cut of $50,000. An NHLer with an AAV of $6,000,000 has their salary cut $600,000. So the X% is significantly more once the average yearly salary increases. As BtM said, they are making 'a fine living,' but are being asked to take a pay cut. The employees (players) are working in an industry for a wage during a short career, in comparison to the employees who make $50,000 a year who can perform their job throughout their life if they choose to (pending injury, illness, etc.) So the players being asked to take a pay cut are being greedy because they don't want to lose a significant amount of money per year? No. They are doing the same thing an employee in any industry would do if they are asked to take a significant pay cut. So in my opinion, they have a right to negotiate a new CBA to retain a certain percentage of their wage.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:55 AM

It's their right to earn their fair share. A 24% paycut for an OWNER to earn more is preposterous. Kudos to these players for standing by their principles. Hell, they could've gone with the same CBA for another year and negotiate during the year, but instead, the owners want a huge ass piece of the pie.

I'll stop here because you'll twist my words anyways and cry for the injustices of the common man when in actuality you're bitching that you don't get to use your season tickets. Some saint.


Oh sorry in my late reply I was reading this:

" The Vancouver Canucks remain hopeful that a new Collective Bargaining Agreement will be reached as soon as possible. In the interim, we will continue to focus the efforts and talent of our entire staff and coaches on the values of grassroots hockey in British Columbia. We also will continue with our ongoing community initiatives, including children’s health and wellness through Canucks Autism Network, Canuck Place Children’s Hospice and BC Children’s Hospital -- as well as the support of literacy at the Canucks Family Education Centre.As always, we appreciate your patience and loyalty."

I will aways be loyal to my team the Canucks no matter what millionaire player they bring in to get us that Beautiful Cup. In fact Im sure thats why most kids grow up to play hockey for, no? Lets wait and see how many players take off for Europe and take jobs from foreign NON NHL players.

Oh wait while the players want more money lets give it to em then lets see how much they donate for the same causes....beside their time in kind!

Like I stated before I am for the Canucks and those who brought the team to me, and you know whats scary for players is when are they replaceable. The time for scabs has come.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:02 AM

23 teams are losing money, owners deserve to have a business that makes money or manage their business such that they can. When players get free agency early, when rookie contracts expire in 3 years, when there is a cap floor that teams need to meet, these things escalate EXPENSES.


No they don't. Buying the business is the risk that they assume; it's their job to make it work.

The players don't share in the upside potential of the business, either. If Aquilini decides to flip the Canucks for $150M more than what he paid for them 3 or 4 years ago, that capital gain is entirely his, not to be split with the PA.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 07:40 AM

Why do I keep coming into this thread? Its like watching a train wreck.

Its like they let one of those little tonka kids steer the train, but no one (including me) has the good sense to get off.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 09:05 AM

If Jameison wants to buy the Coyotes knowing full well the NHL's objective is to keep them in a money losing situation in Phoenix without knowing what the new CBA will hold, that's his decision. He doesn't deserve to have a money making business, not when sports franchises as a business aren't known for every owner being profitable.

It's also the NHL's decision to hold them there rather than move them, since they currently own them and the owners would have to agree to a sale or move. They have themselves primarily to blame for the situation their in. If the NHL wants to use proper economics and business rules to claim losses, they have to look at why those losses are happening and correct it.

That can't be all the players fault for having 57% of HRR, not when there are still franchises like Phoenix and Columbus who have loyal fans but not nearly enough to be sustainable.

That can't be all the players fault for having salaries that are too high, not when owners are giving out deals with triple digits in $ and double digit in years the summer before proposing against those very same things in a new CBA.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 09:47 AM

No they don't. Buying the business is the risk that they assume; it's their job to make it work.

The players don't share in the upside potential of the business, either. If Aquilini decides to flip the Canucks for $150M more than what he paid for them 3 or 4 years ago, that capital gain is entirely his, not to be split with the PA.


Lol is it me or does this really need answering lol 1. To own a biz is and to make it work is exactly what the owners are doing now...LOCKOUT. 2. If the owner flips for profit, WHY should he split it with anyone but his partners. The upside for some players are thier contracts. which they sign.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:03 AM

Lol is it me or does this really need answering lol 1. To own a biz is and to make it work is exactly what the owners are doing now...LOCKOUT. 2. If the owner flips for profit, WHY should he split it with anyone but his partners. The upside for some players are thier contracts. which they sign.


I'm not saying that it should be split. But the OP was saying that the players can't expect to get paid what they do, because there are only 7/30 teams that are profitable.

But "profitability" isn't a concern of the players, who are employees. The business owners' job is to use the asset to generate profit for them. If they don't/can't do that, it's their fault, and not the union's.
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#115 sameer666

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:03 PM

I think its unfair for people to lose the right to complain about salary expectations just cause they make a certain amount. Just cause they have a talent that yields them high potential salaries, doesn't mean they should lose the right to earn the amount they feel they deserve. Which is essentially your main argument.
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#116 danman99

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:49 PM

OP just has his panties in a knot because they blocked him on twitter. Who cares... I would have blocked you too.

The rest of this discussion should just be done in the CBA thread.
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#117 SkeeterHansen

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:53 PM

Interesting story.

I have been a Canucks fan for all of my young 35 years. Born and raised in Vancouver, season ticket holder for a number of years, and was there for the entire run last year including game 7.

On my twitter account I was following the above named three. I have been pretty vocal in my views of the lockout critisizing both owners and players for a number of reasons.

Firstly, I think its ludicrous in the midst of the worst recession in my lifetime, and close to a depression, that millionaires and billionaires are fighting over money. Both sides seem to be reaping terrific gains from the sport and if anything seem like a bunch of spoiled brats.

Moreover, the median income in the US and Canada is approx 50k. So people with 50k are making these guys millionaires and they (owners and players) are fighting over the pots of gold, when many of these same people are struggling to pay bills, keep their jobs, or don't have one, and feel lucky to be able to afford to even see a game with ticket prices where they are. As a result, hockey is a release for many, an escape from the toughness of thier lives, 3 hours of happiness in a day to forget the challenges, somewhere to take your child, or watch with your child to share a passion, some family time, bonding, this is why it matters to us, we all know this. In an economic environment like that of today, its even more important, it has an impact on people not only socially but economically.

For example, there are many ancilliary jobs, in the arenas, parking, restos and bars, that will be hurt. People in those jobs depend on the game for a second job to make ends meet, or sole income, better tips on game nights, etc. These are not people making alot of money. For instance, the Panthers just laid off a bunch of staff today.

As a result, I tweeted my displeasure to the above three, not in an insulting way but one that would make them think, stating these facts, and yes suggesting that they and the owners were acting like spoiled brats and that they should feel fortunate to have people making 50k enriching them for playing a game.

All three subsequently blocked me. I opened another account and let Beiksa/Kesler know what I thought of their attitude towards a lifetime fan, someone who had spent alot of money enriching them. Lou was was the only one to respond, surprising given all the crap he has taken in this city but he regained my respect.

I actually know why the Canucks lost game seven now. For a long time I thought it was Lou. It was guys like Bieksa, Kesler, who have entitlement attitudes, are selfish and are all about the money. Blocking a fan who asked them to consider the ramifacations of their decisions on those fans paying their bills says alot about their mentality, how much they really care about fans. Bc you see, if they did care, they would take those comments in stride, and accept that there is a grain of truth in that.

I am no longer a fan of those players and I for one hope to see Kesler and Bieksa traded. Character can be shown in many ways, they have shown me theirs. I know I will get flamed for this but before you do think about what I said, how they reacted, and what it suggests about them as people.

Integrity matters.


Despite all of these people basically giving your story a giant middle finger, I am actually disgraced to be a fan of these guys. They say they "care about the fans", then they should respect and listen to their opinions.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:09 PM

Despite all of these people basically giving your story a giant middle finger, I am actually disgraced to be a fan of these guys. They say they "care about the fans", then they should respect and listen to their opinions.


Are you serious? Why should they or anyone have to put up with some guy spamming the &$!@& out of their twitter account when they themselves are just sitting waiting for an outcome as well if the OP wanted to tweet someone about the lockout why not tweet to people who have a say in what's happeneding?
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:10 PM

Maybe they should quit....go home to their families and get a 9-5 job like the rest of us saps. I pay the Canucks organization to put out a team to play hockey not for the players to create a union to cry baby around when sh!t is not going their way! You get payed to play hockey....give me 4 mill a year I learn to skate tmrw....Simple fact...the contracts are getting out of hand. Players are getting greedy and are ready to up and leave this country for another to play hockey...so family, friends and injuries are all back burnered for $$ dont forget that.


Listen, guy... The players were willing to play. It's a lockout, not a strike. Learn the difference. Secondly, the salary cap that the player agreed to is linked to league revenues. The league revenues have increased, and as a result, so did the salary cap. The NHL is hell bent on keeping team where no one watches them and no one likes them. There are cities where the citizen are literally trying to boot the team out of town but they won't leave. People in the south don't care about hockey. Get over it. The idiots who invest in a game played on ice in the south took a risk. That's was business is.

If you own a ice cream truck and it's not making as much money as you want but you refuse to move the truck to a warm climate where people actually like ice cream, no one is going to feel bad for you when your workers don't want huge pay cuts. You're the idiot who's trying to sell ice cream to Eskimos.
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I bet when Schneider turns 38, he will have broken all of Luongo's records.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:22 PM

Are you serious? Why should they or anyone have to put up with some guy spamming the &$!@& out of their twitter account when they themselves are just sitting waiting for an outcome as well if the OP wanted to tweet someone about the lockout why not tweet to people who have a say in what's happeneding?


Exactly.

OP... did you really expect any of them to strike up a conversation with you?

They blocked you because you flooded their account with tweets.

....and then you open up another account and continue to bother them. You sound like a nut.

Edited by danman99, 20 September 2012 - 01:24 PM.

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